NLE Mac / Final Cut questions from 2004

Mark Sloan · November 1st, 2004, 06:57 PM

In the Display preferences set up the 2 displays in mirror mode. This is the only way I've gotten this to work. You might get it to work by making the external display the "master" display as well...

Donie Kelly · November 1st, 2004, 07:04 PM

Hi Mark

I meant to post this earlier but there is a way in quicktime.

Select Movie | Present Movie...

This dialog shows the layout of your external monitors and lets you choose the one to play to. You can also select to go full screen or whatever on it.

It's pretty cool and is exactly what I was looking for. Note that I'm using Quicktime player 6.5.2 in case it matters.

One another note, the Apple DVD player can do this as well as I found out this evening. I have version 4.0 of it in case that matters. Normally when you select full screen it will go to primary monitor but if you drag the DVD viewer window to the external monitor and then select full screen it will do it on that monitor.

This is how it should have worked in Quicktime but anyway. Hope it helps some of you...

Donie

Michael Westphal · November 1st, 2004, 10:00 PM

Sorry. Don't know. (Was compressor available with FCP3?)

Laurence Maher · November 3rd, 2004, 02:38 AM

I just recently heard that they have out DVD players with a RGB output that does upscaling to 1080i and 720p. Would it make sense to take a feature shot on 24p, transfer it to DVD and then play it out from these players back into FCP HD for up-scaling? Or is this a lame idea and why?

Thanks!

Benjamin Taft · November 3rd, 2004, 03:09 AM

Why would you want to do it? Just use one of those upscaling hardware DVD players or any popular DVD software for upscaling when you would like to play it back.

If you want to upscale it to mix it with HD-footage then I'm sure you can do that digatally in the computer.

Nathan Nix · November 3rd, 2004, 09:03 AM

I think I might have messed myself up on my first short film in FCP 3, hopefully someone can tell me if I did or not. I shot with the dvx100(not A), but I'm editing with FCP 3. I captured the footage, but when I did, I'm pretty sure I captured at 23.98 instead of 29.97, which is what I think you're supposed to do with FCP 3 since it doesn't have a 24p timeline capability. I've edited my whole project already (about 15 min. long). The sequence is a 29.97 sequence, but my clips are 23.98. Did I actually mess up? If I did, what do I need to do? Will I have to recapture my footage and start over, or can I somehow change the footage rate to 29.97 within FCP 3 (if I need to)? Is there any way I can salvage all of the work I've already done?
I would appreciate any help.
Thanks
Nathan

Alfred Okocha · November 3rd, 2004, 01:06 PM

This is not an expert comment since I have no experience on your problem.. but, if it looks and sound right, it probably is. if it didn't you would have discovered that before right?

Again, wait for somebody with the same set-up to be sure!!

Jaime Valles · November 3rd, 2004, 01:50 PM

You may want to check out this thread at DVXuser:

http://www.dvxuser.com/cgi-bin/DVX2/...num=1097870435

Some great results with a program called PhotoZoom Pro.

Shane Ross · November 3rd, 2004, 01:51 PM

How did you capture it? IF you did a straight capture and did no conversion with CT, then your footage should be 29.97. If you open the bin and scroll down to the right, there is a column for frame rate...look as see. You can also Control-Click on the clip and select Item Properties and see what the frame rate it.

If you did a straight capture (FCP can't remove the pulldown during capture, that option came out in Version 4) then your media is all 29.97. If is all was 23.98 and you dropped it in the 29.97 timeline, it would have had a red bar and needed rendering in order to play properly.

Gary Chavez · November 3rd, 2004, 02:04 PM

This started today.
Have 291 GB avalible on striped Medea Raid.
Have 3.5GB to capture.
All of a sudden message say 'insuffient disc space remaning in capture scratch.'
WTF?
I'm lost as to what to do next.

Had the Mac G4 dual 1.25 ( the system we are talking about) looked over and checked out by a Mac guru yesterday.
All he ended up doing was disabling a bunch of fonts in
Fontbook.
So now the fonts are back in my generator.
Are the 2 in any way connected?

Krista McCutcheon · November 3rd, 2004, 02:35 PM

How do I import the .m4a music files from my .mac account into Final Cut Pro without it cutting out every 5 seconds. I read that I have to convert it to an .aif file, but can I do that without QuickTime Pro?

Any other suggestions?

Graeme Nattress · November 3rd, 2004, 03:48 PM

Compression on DVD will eliminate any advantage. Best route currently would be a hardware scaler such as a Snell & Wilcox. FCP is bad, AE ok, Shake a bit better still. I'm working on a super-scaler for Mac users as a stand alone video aware application that promises to do great things, but is a long way off being usuable by me, never mind anyone else!!

Graeme

Dave Perry · November 3rd, 2004, 06:53 PM

I've been working on a DVDSP 3 project that has about 20 movies in it and 5 or 6 menus. It's our demo reel. We work with beta sp and capture footage through an AJA IO as Uncompressed 10 bit. we edit in FCP HD. I'm actually new to DVDSP but have picked it up pretty quickly in the last week.

The problem we are having is that some of the movies play back properly de-interlaced on a TV but others have bands of interlaced and de-interlaced sections when there is fast movement or horizontal pans.

I've checked the properties of all the clips in QT pro and all are 720x486 Uncompressed 10 bit 422. I can't figure out why some play back fine while otheres don't.

My encoding settings are set to 2 pass VBR with low at 4 and high at 7mbps. I'm not at work right now so I can't remember the setting but it's called something like motion mapping or movement mapping but I have it set to Best. Field order starts with lower field as do our FCP sequnces.

My boss e-mailed me tonight saying that one of the problem clips when encoded in iDVD looked fine.

Any help would be appreciated.

Mike Hanlon · November 3rd, 2004, 07:35 PM

I've heard that you can do this directly with QT, but I've never figured out how so I do this from iTunes.

Make sure your Importing ("ripping") preferences are set to AIFF. Select the files from the iTunes library that you want to convert and choose the menu item Advanced->Convert to AIFF. iTunes will do the conversion, change the suffix to .aif and leave the results in the library.

Go to FCP and Import the converted files.

Mike.

Mark Sloan · November 3rd, 2004, 09:06 PM

I only have FCP 3.x but it CAME with a Quicktime Pro code... I'd say copy the file to your desktop, convert it with Quicktime to AIFF and then put it in a folder with your project. A way around this, if you don't have Quicktime Pro or Toast, is to put it into iTunes and burn an audio CD with that as a track. Boom, AIFF conversion.

November 1st, 2004, 07:04 PM	#1532
Donie Kelly Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ireland Posts: 159	Got it to work Hi Mark I meant to post this earlier but there is a way in quicktime. Select Movie \| Present Movie... This dialog shows the layout of your external monitors and lets you choose the one to play to. You can also select to go full screen or whatever on it. It's pretty cool and is exactly what I was looking for. Note that I'm using Quicktime player 6.5.2 in case it matters. One another note, the Apple DVD player can do this as well as I found out this evening. I have version 4.0 of it in case that matters. Normally when you select full screen it will go to primary monitor but if you drag the DVD viewer window to the external monitor and then select full screen it will do it on that monitor. This is how it should have worked in Quicktime but anyway. Hope it helps some of you... Donie __________________ Macbook Pro 2.0Ghz and Canon XL2

November 1st, 2004, 10:00 PM	#1533
Michael Westphal Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 166	Sorry. Don't know. (Was compressor available with FCP3?) __________________ Michael A Westphal

November 3rd, 2004, 02:38 AM	#1534
Laurence Maher Join Date: May 2004 Location: denton, texas, usa Posts: 416	Possible up-rez method? I just recently heard that they have out DVD players with a RGB output that does upscaling to 1080i and 720p. Would it make sense to take a feature shot on 24p, transfer it to DVD and then play it out from these players back into FCP HD for up-scaling? Or is this a lame idea and why? Thanks!

November 3rd, 2004, 09:03 AM	#1536
Nathan Nix New Boot Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 11	Think I messed myself up I think I might have messed myself up on my first short film in FCP 3, hopefully someone can tell me if I did or not. I shot with the dvx100(not A), but I'm editing with FCP 3. I captured the footage, but when I did, I'm pretty sure I captured at 23.98 instead of 29.97, which is what I think you're supposed to do with FCP 3 since it doesn't have a 24p timeline capability. I've edited my whole project already (about 15 min. long). The sequence is a 29.97 sequence, but my clips are 23.98. Did I actually mess up? If I did, what do I need to do? Will I have to recapture my footage and start over, or can I somehow change the footage rate to 29.97 within FCP 3 (if I need to)? Is there any way I can salvage all of the work I've already done? I would appreciate any help. Thanks Nathan

November 3rd, 2004, 02:04 PM	#1540
Gary Chavez Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Antonio Posts: 355	insufficient disk space. This started today. Have 291 GB avalible on striped Medea Raid. Have 3.5GB to capture. All of a sudden message say 'insuffient disc space remaning in capture scratch.' WTF? I'm lost as to what to do next. Had the Mac G4 dual 1.25 ( the system we are talking about) looked over and checked out by a Mac guru yesterday. All he ended up doing was disabling a bunch of fonts in Fontbook. So now the fonts are back in my generator. Are the 2 in any way connected?

November 1st, 2004, 06:57 PM	#1531
Mark Sloan Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 346	In the Display preferences set up the 2 displays in mirror mode. This is the only way I've gotten this to work. You might get it to work by making the external display the "master" display as well...

November 3rd, 2004, 03:09 AM	#1535
Benjamin Taft Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 52	Why would you want to do it? Just use one of those upscaling hardware DVD players or any popular DVD software for upscaling when you would like to play it back. If you want to upscale it to mix it with HD-footage then I'm sure you can do that digatally in the computer.

November 3rd, 2004, 01:06 PM	#1537
Alfred Okocha Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London Posts: 427	This is not an expert comment since I have no experience on your problem.. but, if it looks and sound right, it probably is. if it didn't you would have discovered that before right? Again, wait for somebody with the same set-up to be sure!!

November 3rd, 2004, 01:50 PM	#1538
Jaime Valles Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: New York City, NY Posts: 316	You may want to check out this thread at DVXuser: http://www.dvxuser.com/cgi-bin/DVX2/...num=1097870435 Some great results with a program called PhotoZoom Pro.

November 3rd, 2004, 01:51 PM	#1539
Shane Ross Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 539	How did you capture it? IF you did a straight capture and did no conversion with CT, then your footage should be 29.97. If you open the bin and scroll down to the right, there is a column for frame rate...look as see. You can also Control-Click on the clip and select Item Properties and see what the frame rate it. If you did a straight capture (FCP can't remove the pulldown during capture, that option came out in Version 4) then your media is all 29.97. If is all was 23.98 and you dropped it in the 29.97 timeline, it would have had a red bar and needed rendering in order to play properly.

November 3rd, 2004, 02:35 PM	#1541
Krista McCutcheon New Boot Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bartlesville, OK Posts: 12	Freeplay & FCP 4 How do I import the .m4a music files from my .mac account into Final Cut Pro without it cutting out every 5 seconds. I read that I have to convert it to an .aif file, but can I do that without QuickTime Pro? Any other suggestions?

November 3rd, 2004, 03:48 PM	#1542
Graeme Nattress RED Problem Solver Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,365	Compression on DVD will eliminate any advantage. Best route currently would be a hardware scaler such as a Snell & Wilcox. FCP is bad, AE ok, Shake a bit better still. I'm working on a super-scaler for Mac users as a stand alone video aware application that promises to do great things, but is a long way off being usuable by me, never mind anyone else!! Graeme __________________ www.nattress.com - filters for FCP

November 3rd, 2004, 06:53 PM	#1543
Dave Perry Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 796	DVDSP 3 and De-interlacing Problems I've been working on a DVDSP 3 project that has about 20 movies in it and 5 or 6 menus. It's our demo reel. We work with beta sp and capture footage through an AJA IO as Uncompressed 10 bit. we edit in FCP HD. I'm actually new to DVDSP but have picked it up pretty quickly in the last week. The problem we are having is that some of the movies play back properly de-interlaced on a TV but others have bands of interlaced and de-interlaced sections when there is fast movement or horizontal pans. I've checked the properties of all the clips in QT pro and all are 720x486 Uncompressed 10 bit 422. I can't figure out why some play back fine while otheres don't. My encoding settings are set to 2 pass VBR with low at 4 and high at 7mbps. I'm not at work right now so I can't remember the setting but it's called something like motion mapping or movement mapping but I have it set to Best. Field order starts with lower field as do our FCP sequnces. My boss e-mailed me tonight saying that one of the problem clips when encoded in iDVD looked fine. Any help would be appreciated. __________________ Dave Perry Cinematographer LLC Director of Photography • Editor • Digital Film Production • 540.915.2752 • daveperry.net

November 3rd, 2004, 07:35 PM	#1544
Mike Hanlon Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 180	I've heard that you can do this directly with QT, but I've never figured out how so I do this from iTunes. Make sure your Importing ("ripping") preferences are set to AIFF. Select the files from the iTunes library that you want to convert and choose the menu item Advanced->Convert to AIFF. iTunes will do the conversion, change the suffix to .aif and leave the results in the library. Go to FCP and Import the converted files. Mike. __________________ VM Productions

November 3rd, 2004, 09:06 PM	#1545
Mark Sloan Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 346	I only have FCP 3.x but it CAME with a Quicktime Pro code... I'd say copy the file to your desktop, convert it with Quicktime to AIFF and then put it in a folder with your project. A way around this, if you don't have Quicktime Pro or Toast, is to put it into iTunes and burn an audio CD with that as a track. Boom, AIFF conversion.