Stuttering imports from AE on a HDV 1080 24p FCP timeline at DVinfo.net

Steve Yager · May 12th, 2009, 11:46 PM

Hi. I am importing titles made in After Effects with an HDV 1080 24p sequence into an FCP HDV 1080 24p timeline and when played back and rendered out the titles stutter or drop frames (without the dropped frame warning coming up). I've tried all different kinds of codecs, animation, AIC, uncompressed, HDV, none of them seem to work right. Has anyone had this problem as well?
Thanks!

Mitchell Lewis · May 13th, 2009, 07:25 AM

Are the titles moving? Is that what's causing the stutter?

William Hohauser · May 13th, 2009, 07:39 AM

How are you exporting the files from AE? Do the files play in QuickTime without the stutter? Try the standard Animation codec presets in AE. It makes a huge file but it will render fine.

Steve Yager · May 13th, 2009, 03:48 PM

Mitchell--yes, they are moving titles.

William--I've tried exporting within AE through animation codec, HDV, uncompressed, AIC. Nothing seems to work. They play fine in Quicktime, which makes me think it's an FCP thing. Any ideas?

Thanks for the response, guys!

Steve Yager · May 13th, 2009, 03:51 PM

I'm trying it through "export" in AE, instead of "make movie". We'll see if that makes a difference.

Steve Yager · May 13th, 2009, 04:10 PM

So that pretty much fixed it. For those out there with the problem of dropped frames or stuttering issues in an HDV Final Cut timeline when bring footage from After Effects in, use the "export" function in AE instead of the "make movie" function.

William Hohauser · May 13th, 2009, 06:44 PM

It's odd since I never have these problems with the "Make Movie" function in AE.

Steve Yager · May 13th, 2009, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by William Hohauser

It's odd since I never have these problems with the "Make Movie" function in AE.

I haven't either until I started working in an HDV timeline. Are you working in HDV too? It's quite possible that it's my 5 year-old Mac starting to die.

William Hohauser · May 14th, 2009, 12:40 PM

I work in HDV and ProRes. My Mac is 5 years old as well. It might be a field order problem in the Make Movie presets.

Steve Yager · May 14th, 2009, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by William Hohauser

I work in HDV and ProRes. My Mac is 5 years old as well. It might be a field order problem in the Make Movie presets.

Hmmm... shouldn't be a field order problem since I'm creating progressive and importing into a progressive timeline. I don't think field order is even an option when exporting.

Em Malden · May 15th, 2009, 03:56 AM

Sometimes the problem is with the FCP canvas not rendering the clip properly rather than an inherent issue with the export - try exporting the clip in the timeline from FCP and see if you still get the same issues when viewing as a movie outside FCP

Em

Steve Yager · May 15th, 2009, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Em Malden

Sometimes the problem is with the FCP canvas not rendering the clip properly rather than an inherent issue with the export - try exporting the clip in the timeline from FCP and see if you still get the same issues when viewing as a movie outside FCP

Em

Hi, Em. Thanks for jumping in. I thought that too, but every time I render out it is still jumpy/stuttery. And If I render out of AE with the AIC it plays fine in the timeline but then when I render it gets stuttery again. And if it's in a timeline with other video in it, it's the only thing that stutters. It's almost like adding a strobe effect.

Now, the "export" function has been working, but there's a new problem. Sometimes when I use "export" instead of "make movie" and try to import it into FCP I get an "unrecognized file error". Man!

William Hohauser · May 15th, 2009, 04:20 PM

Might be time for a FCP preferences trash. Or a complete reinstallation of FCP.

Have you brought the files into Compressor and converted them to your sequence codec?

May 12th, 2009, 11:46 PM	#1
Steve Yager Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 157	Stuttering imports from AE on a HDV 1080 24p FCP timeline Hi. I am importing titles made in After Effects with an HDV 1080 24p sequence into an FCP HDV 1080 24p timeline and when played back and rendered out the titles stutter or drop frames (without the dropped frame warning coming up). I've tried all different kinds of codecs, animation, AIC, uncompressed, HDV, none of them seem to work right. Has anyone had this problem as well? Thanks!

May 13th, 2009, 07:25 AM	#2
Mitchell Lewis Trustee Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Kennewick, WA Posts: 1,124	Are the titles moving? Is that what's causing the stutter? __________________ Sony EX3, Canon 5D MkII, Chrosziel Matte Box, Sachtler tripod, Steadicam Flyer, Mac Pro, Apple/Adobe software - 20 years as a local videographer/editor

May 13th, 2009, 07:39 AM	#3
William Hohauser Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 2,650	How are you exporting the files from AE? Do the files play in QuickTime without the stutter? Try the standard Animation codec presets in AE. It makes a huge file but it will render fine. __________________ William Hohauser - New York City Producer/Edit/Camera/Animation

May 13th, 2009, 06:44 PM	#7
William Hohauser Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 2,650	It's odd since I never have these problems with the "Make Movie" function in AE. __________________ William Hohauser - New York City Producer/Edit/Camera/Animation

May 14th, 2009, 12:40 PM	#9
William Hohauser Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 2,650	I work in HDV and ProRes. My Mac is 5 years old as well. It might be a field order problem in the Make Movie presets. __________________ William Hohauser - New York City Producer/Edit/Camera/Animation

May 13th, 2009, 03:48 PM	#4
Steve Yager Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 157	Mitchell--yes, they are moving titles. William--I've tried exporting within AE through animation codec, HDV, uncompressed, AIC. Nothing seems to work. They play fine in Quicktime, which makes me think it's an FCP thing. Any ideas? Thanks for the response, guys!

May 13th, 2009, 03:51 PM	#5
Steve Yager Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 157	I'm trying it through "export" in AE, instead of "make movie". We'll see if that makes a difference.

May 13th, 2009, 04:10 PM	#6
Steve Yager Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 157	So that pretty much fixed it. For those out there with the problem of dropped frames or stuttering issues in an HDV Final Cut timeline when bring footage from After Effects in, use the "export" function in AE instead of the "make movie" function.

May 15th, 2009, 03:56 AM	#11
Em Malden New Boot Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 10	Sometimes the problem is with the FCP canvas not rendering the clip properly rather than an inherent issue with the export - try exporting the clip in the timeline from FCP and see if you still get the same issues when viewing as a movie outside FCP Em

May 15th, 2009, 04:20 PM	#13
William Hohauser Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 2,650	Might be time for a FCP preferences trash. Or a complete reinstallation of FCP. Have you brought the files into Compressor and converted them to your sequence codec? __________________ William Hohauser - New York City Producer/Edit/Camera/Animation