Single User Mode Broken on 10.2.8? at DVinfo.net

Ted Springer · November 12th, 2003, 10:56 PM

I just tried to boot into single user mode because I keep getting a TON of kernel panics when using the Camino browser. But I wasn't able to type anything in single user mode. Is this a known issue with 10.2.8?

Jeff Donald · November 12th, 2003, 11:19 PM

Definetly not an issue. At startup you are holding down the Apple Key, Option/Alt Key and the S Key? Did the prompt appear?

Ted Springer · November 13th, 2003, 12:39 AM

Just Apple + S. I get all of the single user text with the COLOR (in color) and all that. What looks like a prompt appears, but it does not flash, and I cannot type anything. I even tried typing reboot and hitting Enter, but nothing happens. This is repeatable.

Here is what I see:

Click Here

I am assuming this is related to the many kernel panics I've been having since I upgraded to 10.2.8. I really wouldn't be surprised if they were a "feature" provided by Apple in the OS to persuade users to pay the cash for 10.3.

Jeff Donald · November 13th, 2003, 06:52 AM

No, you probably have a problem with the keyboard. I don't see that it loaded in the single user mode. It may well be the cause of the kernel panics.

Startup from a system install disk, DO NOT install, but choose Disk Utility and run Disk Repair (First Aid). You could do the same with Disk Warrior. It sounds like either a hardware problem (keyboard?) or a directory problem.

Ted Springer · November 13th, 2003, 04:11 PM

I have run DiskWarrior (all that does is rebuild and replace the directory and defragment the disk, but is still invaluable). I am using an old Apple ADB keyboard attached with an iMate. I don't like Apple's keyboard that came with my Mac. It is small and very flimsy (blue/black keyboard). I like the keyboards that come with the current iMacs (the white ones) but Apple is charging $90 for them! It's a stinkin' keyboard! People who work at Apple are thieves.

Does anyone know of a great USB keyboard for the MAC? It must have an Apple key, and it should not be dark in colors. I like to see what I am pressing.

Boyd Ostroff · November 13th, 2003, 04:53 PM

Sounds like it really might be your ADB keyboard then. I got a replacement for mine at CompUSA for $30. It is really a ripoff of the white Apple keyboard that comes with the new Macs, you have to look twice to tell the difference. However it has a completely different feel. The keys go "clickity clack" like the older keyboards, which I like. But after using for awhile am not so crazy about it, sometimes keys will stick.

Where did you get that $90 figure, is that Canadian maybe? The Apple store sells the new keyboards for $49 USD http://store.apple.com

I don't mind the feel of these keyboards, but they aren't very durable. I go through them at the rate of one per year...

Ted Springer · November 13th, 2003, 07:58 PM

OK I have a white Apple keyboard now and single user mode works fine.

Jeff Donald · November 13th, 2003, 09:20 PM

Ted, glad it worked out and wasn't something more serious.

Boyd, if you're going through a keyboard a year, you need to type softer.

Boyd Ostroff · November 13th, 2003, 09:56 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Jeff Donald : Boyd, if you're going through a keyboard a year, you need to type softer. -->>>

Or less? ;-) Seriously, these new Apple keyboards don't seem very robust. In addition to my own I have seen several of them wear out on our machines at work. But I suppose if a machine is used primarily for graphics or video editing it wouldn't see the same sort of abuse...

November 12th, 2003, 10:56 PM	#1
Ted Springer Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Glendale CA Posts: 328	Single User Mode Broken on 10.2.8? I just tried to boot into single user mode because I keep getting a TON of kernel panics when using the Camino browser. But I wasn't able to type anything in single user mode. Is this a known issue with 10.2.8?

November 12th, 2003, 11:19 PM	#2
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Definetly not an issue. At startup you are holding down the Apple Key, Option/Alt Key and the S Key? Did the prompt appear? __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

November 13th, 2003, 06:52 AM	#4
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	No, you probably have a problem with the keyboard. I don't see that it loaded in the single user mode. It may well be the cause of the kernel panics. Startup from a system install disk, DO NOT install, but choose Disk Utility and run Disk Repair (First Aid). You could do the same with Disk Warrior. It sounds like either a hardware problem (keyboard?) or a directory problem. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

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Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Ted, glad it worked out and wasn't something more serious. Boyd, if you're going through a keyboard a year, you need to type softer. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

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November 13th, 2003, 12:39 AM	#3
Ted Springer Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Glendale CA Posts: 328	Just Apple + S. I get all of the single user text with the COLOR (in color) and all that. What looks like a prompt appears, but it does not flash, and I cannot type anything. I even tried typing reboot and hitting Enter, but nothing happens. This is repeatable. Here is what I see: Click Here I am assuming this is related to the many kernel panics I've been having since I upgraded to 10.2.8. I really wouldn't be surprised if they were a "feature" provided by Apple in the OS to persuade users to pay the cash for 10.3.

November 13th, 2003, 04:11 PM	#5
Ted Springer Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Glendale CA Posts: 328	I have run DiskWarrior (all that does is rebuild and replace the directory and defragment the disk, but is still invaluable). I am using an old Apple ADB keyboard attached with an iMate. I don't like Apple's keyboard that came with my Mac. It is small and very flimsy (blue/black keyboard). I like the keyboards that come with the current iMacs (the white ones) but Apple is charging $90 for them! It's a stinkin' keyboard! People who work at Apple are thieves. Does anyone know of a great USB keyboard for the MAC? It must have an Apple key, and it should not be dark in colors. I like to see what I am pressing.

November 13th, 2003, 04:53 PM	#6
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	Sounds like it really might be your ADB keyboard then. I got a replacement for mine at CompUSA for $30. It is really a ripoff of the white Apple keyboard that comes with the new Macs, you have to look twice to tell the difference. However it has a completely different feel. The keys go "clickity clack" like the older keyboards, which I like. But after using for awhile am not so crazy about it, sometimes keys will stick. Where did you get that $90 figure, is that Canadian maybe? The Apple store sells the new keyboards for $49 USD http://store.apple.com I don't mind the feel of these keyboards, but they aren't very durable. I go through them at the rate of one per year...

November 13th, 2003, 07:58 PM	#7
Ted Springer Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Glendale CA Posts: 328	OK I have a white Apple keyboard now and single user mode works fine.

November 13th, 2003, 09:56 PM	#9
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	<<<-- Originally posted by Jeff Donald : Boyd, if you're going through a keyboard a year, you need to type softer. -->>> Or less? ;-) Seriously, these new Apple keyboards don't seem very robust. In addition to my own I have seen several of them wear out on our machines at work. But I suppose if a machine is used primarily for graphics or video editing it wouldn't see the same sort of abuse...