Trash Can in OS X at DVinfo.net

Ted Springer · November 11th, 2003, 06:25 PM

I finally figured out how to throw away a file into the trash can without too much hassle. I use TinkleTool to lock the dock into the lower left hand corner of the screen (hiding turned off). When I want to delete a file, I attempt to drag it to the trash can (or the ever-so-trendy über wastebasket). However the trash always moves out of the way, fighting me. It was always a struggle to get a file into the darned thing since it was always moving around. Behold the Apple key. There is some other name for this key, but it has the Apple logo on it, so it is the apple key. It also has another weird symbol on it for absolutely no reason whatsoever, and I shall ignore that symbol's existence. Anyway, if you hold this down while moving files to the trash, the trash can will not resist and fight you. It will cooperate, acting almost as efficient as OS 9, where the trash gladly accepts your useless files!

This has nothing to do with digital video. Sorry if this was a waste of time. But the time you wasted reading this will easily be made up for not fighting that idiot trash can. :)

For those who have never had to fight the evil trash can, here is an example:

Approaching the Trash Can
Denied!

Matt Stahley · November 11th, 2003, 06:39 PM

You can also control click - move to trash.No drag needed.

Ted Springer · November 11th, 2003, 06:42 PM

And since I have a two-button mouse, I can just right-click. I'll have to get used to that. But dragging is still best when working with multiple files.

Edit: Nope, I can delete multiple files at the same time with right click as well. Cool! Apple should include a two button mouse with their computers.

Jeff Donald · November 11th, 2003, 10:00 PM

Even more fun, lasso multiple file, or shift click mutiple files (shift click selects sets of files) or Apple Key click the files you want. Once you have selected the various files you want to delete, press Apple Key (AKA Command Key, or Splat) and the delete key and all the files will move to the trash.

Jeff Donald · November 11th, 2003, 10:42 PM

I can just barely do it with one hand on my powerbook, but no problem with my right hand on the bigger pro keyboard with two Apple Keys.

Ted Springer · November 12th, 2003, 03:10 AM

My mouse is elevated compared to my keyboard. I have one of those fancy-schmancy desks that have the keyboard shelf that slides in and out. Mouse is on top of the desk. Works well for me.

David Slingerland · November 12th, 2003, 06:38 PM

thats all really fun but my computer does not want me to trash a program I was downloading(but did not finish) it keeps telling me this i : (in english I am getting it in Dutch) the program you want to trash is in use , I have got to wait until it is finished. But I have checked there is no program running and I tried restarting but it is still there and I can not trash it??

any idea's?

Jeff Donald · November 12th, 2003, 10:03 PM

If you highlight the program and type the Apple Key and the I Key does the info window appear? If so, change the ownership of the file (you may need to click on the lock icon) to your short name (it should appear in the pull down). You can also log in as Root and trash the folder, and your whole system, so be careful logging in as Root.

David Slingerland · November 13th, 2003, 04:08 AM

jeff, i changed the name of it and its ownership had already my name on it ...But nothing so far but the part about 'root' i don't understand.

Jeff Donald · November 13th, 2003, 06:33 AM

Changed it's name? What do you mean?

How to activate as Root user:

The root user, sometimes called the superuser, is a special user account in Mac OS X that has read and write privileges to all areas of the file system. The root user can move and delete any file in the system, including system files not available to any other user. Because it's easy to damage the computer by moving or deleting some files, use the root account with extreme caution.

By default the root account is not active.

To enable the root user:

Open NetInfo Manager, located in Applications > Utilities.
Choose Security > Enable Root User and type a password for the root account. You may need to type an administrator password to make these changes.
Choose Apple menu > Log Out.
Choose Other in the Login window, type root in the Name field, and the root password in the Password field.

The root user should only be used for specific administration or monitoring tasks. After completing a task as the root user, log out of Mac OS X and log back in using a normal or administrator user account.

Disable root access if you do not use it often.

David Slingerland · November 18th, 2003, 02:09 AM

Jeff,

I just had time to look at what you wrote and i found the netinfomanager but there is no security post. There is just "users" and one of them is "root" but no pass word is asked and root has nothing in the field behind it.... other Users are myself "nobody" etc..
No enable root user asked either??

Jeff Donald · November 18th, 2003, 02:43 AM

Security is a menu bar heading in NetInfo Manager. It may say enable or authenticate depending on the version OS you're using. Apple changed the wording in 10.3 I think.

David Slingerland · November 18th, 2003, 05:49 AM

thanks Jeff, for all the info!!

November 11th, 2003, 06:25 PM	#1
Ted Springer Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Glendale CA Posts: 328	Trash Can in OS X I finally figured out how to throw away a file into the trash can without too much hassle. I use TinkleTool to lock the dock into the lower left hand corner of the screen (hiding turned off). When I want to delete a file, I attempt to drag it to the trash can (or the ever-so-trendy über wastebasket). However the trash always moves out of the way, fighting me. It was always a struggle to get a file into the darned thing since it was always moving around. Behold the Apple key. There is some other name for this key, but it has the Apple logo on it, so it is the apple key. It also has another weird symbol on it for absolutely no reason whatsoever, and I shall ignore that symbol's existence. Anyway, if you hold this down while moving files to the trash, the trash can will not resist and fight you. It will cooperate, acting almost as efficient as OS 9, where the trash gladly accepts your useless files! This has nothing to do with digital video. Sorry if this was a waste of time. But the time you wasted reading this will easily be made up for not fighting that idiot trash can. :) For those who have never had to fight the evil trash can, here is an example: Approaching the Trash Can Denied!

November 11th, 2003, 10:00 PM	#4
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Even more fun, lasso multiple file, or shift click mutiple files (shift click selects sets of files) or Apple Key click the files you want. Once you have selected the various files you want to delete, press Apple Key (AKA Command Key, or Splat) and the delete key and all the files will move to the trash. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

November 11th, 2003, 10:42 PM	#5
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	I can just barely do it with one hand on my powerbook, but no problem with my right hand on the bigger pro keyboard with two Apple Keys. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

November 12th, 2003, 06:38 PM	#7
David Slingerland Major Player Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soest ,Holland Posts: 307	thats all really fun but my computer does not want me to trash a program I was downloading(but did not finish) it keeps telling me this i : (in english I am getting it in Dutch) the program you want to trash is in use , I have got to wait until it is finished. But I have checked there is no program running and I tried restarting but it is still there and I can not trash it?? any idea's? __________________ D.Slingerland director/cameraman http://www.slingerlandproductions.nl

November 12th, 2003, 10:03 PM	#8
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	If you highlight the program and type the Apple Key and the I Key does the info window appear? If so, change the ownership of the file (you may need to click on the lock icon) to your short name (it should appear in the pull down). You can also log in as Root and trash the folder, and your whole system, so be careful logging in as Root. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

November 11th, 2003, 06:39 PM	#2
Matt Stahley Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Waynesboro, PA Posts: 648	You can also control click - move to trash.No drag needed.

November 11th, 2003, 06:42 PM	#3
Ted Springer Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Glendale CA Posts: 328	And since I have a two-button mouse, I can just right-click. I'll have to get used to that. But dragging is still best when working with multiple files. Edit: Nope, I can delete multiple files at the same time with right click as well. Cool! Apple should include a two button mouse with their computers.

November 12th, 2003, 03:10 AM	#6
Ted Springer Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Glendale CA Posts: 328	My mouse is elevated compared to my keyboard. I have one of those fancy-schmancy desks that have the keyboard shelf that slides in and out. Mouse is on top of the desk. Works well for me.

November 13th, 2003, 04:08 AM	#9
David Slingerland Major Player Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soest ,Holland Posts: 307	jeff, i changed the name of it and its ownership had already my name on it ...But nothing so far but the part about 'root' i don't understand. __________________ D.Slingerland director/cameraman http://www.slingerlandproductions.nl

November 13th, 2003, 06:33 AM	#10
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Changed it's name? What do you mean? How to activate as Root user: The root user, sometimes called the superuser, is a special user account in Mac OS X that has read and write privileges to all areas of the file system. The root user can move and delete any file in the system, including system files not available to any other user. Because it's easy to damage the computer by moving or deleting some files, use the root account with extreme caution. By default the root account is not active. To enable the root user: Open NetInfo Manager, located in Applications > Utilities. Choose Security > Enable Root User and type a password for the root account. You may need to type an administrator password to make these changes. Choose Apple menu > Log Out. Choose Other in the Login window, type root in the Name field, and the root password in the Password field. The root user should only be used for specific administration or monitoring tasks. After completing a task as the root user, log out of Mac OS X and log back in using a normal or administrator user account. Disable root access if you do not use it often. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

November 18th, 2003, 02:09 AM	#11
David Slingerland Major Player Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soest ,Holland Posts: 307	Jeff, I just had time to look at what you wrote and i found the netinfomanager but there is no security post. There is just "users" and one of them is "root" but no pass word is asked and root has nothing in the field behind it.... other Users are myself "nobody" etc.. No enable root user asked either?? __________________ D.Slingerland director/cameraman http://www.slingerlandproductions.nl

November 18th, 2003, 02:43 AM	#12
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Security is a menu bar heading in NetInfo Manager. It may say enable or authenticate depending on the version OS you're using. Apple changed the wording in 10.3 I think. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

November 18th, 2003, 05:49 AM	#13
David Slingerland Major Player Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soest ,Holland Posts: 307	thanks Jeff, for all the info!! __________________ D.Slingerland director/cameraman http://www.slingerlandproductions.nl