Apple/HDV editing stuff and links

Heath McKnight · December 14th, 2004, 11:42 PM

Dom,

There are currently a bunch of free solutions that I've tried that don't work. You can also try another program that many had problems on, but others had success.

Lumiere HD is the only one I like for Apple, and I've tried almost all of them (except DVC's) and I really didn't like the freebie stuff.

We're NOT a big ad for Lumiere, it's just the best HDV "bridge" for Final Cut Pro editing out there right now.

heath

Steve Nunez · August 30th, 2005, 07:18 AM

Heath, the link you'v posted above seems unavailable.

Heath McKnight · August 30th, 2005, 10:45 PM

Too many people logged onto that site, so it's shut down (as of late August 2005). To be honest, I like Final Cut Pro 5 the best.

heath

Betsy Moore · August 31st, 2005, 02:37 PM

Hey, Heath, is dual 2.0 with 2 gig of memory and 2 400gb hard drives good enough or should I sacrifice some lighting equipment and get dual 2.3? I hear rumors also that there might be a slight bump sometime this month. Catch is, my student discount runs out in a couple of weeks.
thanx

Heath McKnight · August 31st, 2005, 02:48 PM

Betsy,

Oh yeah, that's just fine! You're ready to rock and roll, trust me! Buy a light kit instead of the dualie 2.3 ghz.

As for the rumors of speed bumps, check this out:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=49596

Of course, this thread is a sticky, so this info will be dated as time progresses.

heath

Heath McKnight · August 31st, 2005, 02:49 PM

A new link:

www.apple.com/finalcut

There, you'll see the two Mac apps that cut HDV via the Apple Intermediate Codec (which isn't so popular on these boards and introduces artifacting), which are Final Cut Express HD and iMovie HD (part of iLife 05) and Final Cut Pro 5, which is a native HDV editor (both 1080i and 720p).

heath

Alan Galbraith · August 31st, 2005, 02:59 PM

so....

save me from actually having to do the reading and digging through the thread :D

Can one capture, edit and put back out to tape HDV footage, using a G5 and FinalCutPro 5.0.2?

Betsy Moore · August 31st, 2005, 03:12 PM

Wow, Heath, thanks, so if my student discount runs out on the 14th of September and the reveal is on the 20th, is there any delay strategy I can employ? Like ordering and then--I don't know... also, re: artifacts and all that stuff, does the new full Final Cut 5 still have all those artifacts? Do I still need to get a third part app on top of all that stuff? Ay-yi-yi... maybe I can't get those lights after all...

Alan Galbraith · August 31st, 2005, 03:29 PM

ok, what reveal?

Heath McKnight · August 31st, 2005, 09:55 PM

That Apple may use the dual core chips IBM announced (two processors on one chip).

Betsy, you're fine right now, don't buy a new computer.

Yes, you can capture, edit and export to tape, all in native HDV, all in Final Cut Pro 5 (www.apple.com/finalcutpro)

No artifacts in FCP 5 editing, that's Final Cut Express HD and iMovie HD.

heath

Alan Galbraith · August 31st, 2005, 10:10 PM

danke mucho...

I'm in the hunt for a new Mac also...

BUT, I dont think can or will wait.

Got work to do now.

plus, just cuz new units are announced, doesnt mean that they will be on the market, or that the software will be re-written for them either...

risky wait, risky buy.

Heath McKnight · August 31st, 2005, 10:19 PM

No announcement yet, just rumors and speculation.

heath

Betsy Moore · August 31st, 2005, 10:36 PM

Thanks Heath:) I haven't got the Dual 2 yet, maybe I'll wait a week just to see if any rumors come of anything. It's all so daunting.

James Wicks · September 6th, 2005, 09:52 PM

I've been following this thread and it parallels a problem that I have been trying to overcome.

I have a G5 2x2, 2x23"HD CD, FCP 5.02, Sony M10U, and a JVC HM-DH4000U VHS player/recorder.
Both vtrs have iLink, and Apple Profiler sees them both.

Objective: using FCP to capture video from both vtrs.

So far I have not found the solution. However, I have discovered that Apple's Virtual DVHS and DVHScap control the JVC very nicely. Does anyone know if FCP supports DVHS codecs? And if so, what the settings might be?

The other side of the coin is finding a work around. My only thought here is to do a two-step: dump video from the JVC into the Sony; then use FCP to capture from the M10U.

FCP Wish List: ability to switch between multiple vtrs on the fly within FCP.

Jim Wicks
Palm Beach Gardens, FL

Heath McKnight · September 6th, 2005, 09:56 PM

Welcome aboard, Jim. Glad to see an old friend here at the best videomaker/filmmaker, etc., community on the web!

I'll research your problem and see what I can do. I have the first JVC D-VHS deck, the 30000.

heath

December 14th, 2004, 11:42 PM	#61
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Dom, There are currently a bunch of free solutions that I've tried that don't work. You can also try another program that many had problems on, but others had success. Lumiere HD is the only one I like for Apple, and I've tried almost all of them (except DVC's) and I really didn't like the freebie stuff. We're NOT a big ad for Lumiere, it's just the best HDV "bridge" for Final Cut Pro editing out there right now. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

August 30th, 2005, 07:18 AM	#62
Steve Nunez Trustee Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 1,418	Heath, the link you'v posted above seems unavailable. __________________ Steve Nunez-New York City www.stevenunez.com

August 30th, 2005, 10:45 PM	#63
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Too many people logged onto that site, so it's shut down (as of late August 2005). To be honest, I like Final Cut Pro 5 the best. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

August 31st, 2005, 02:48 PM	#65
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Betsy, Oh yeah, that's just fine! You're ready to rock and roll, trust me! Buy a light kit instead of the dualie 2.3 ghz. As for the rumors of speed bumps, check this out: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=49596 Of course, this thread is a sticky, so this info will be dated as time progresses. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

August 31st, 2005, 02:49 PM	#66
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	A new link: www.apple.com/finalcut There, you'll see the two Mac apps that cut HDV via the Apple Intermediate Codec (which isn't so popular on these boards and introduces artifacting), which are Final Cut Express HD and iMovie HD (part of iLife 05) and Final Cut Pro 5, which is a native HDV editor (both 1080i and 720p). heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

August 31st, 2005, 02:37 PM	#64
Betsy Moore Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 444	Hey, Heath, is dual 2.0 with 2 gig of memory and 2 400gb hard drives good enough or should I sacrifice some lighting equipment and get dual 2.3? I hear rumors also that there might be a slight bump sometime this month. Catch is, my student discount runs out in a couple of weeks. thanx

August 31st, 2005, 02:59 PM	#67
Alan Galbraith Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 98	so.... save me from actually having to do the reading and digging through the thread :D Can one capture, edit and put back out to tape HDV footage, using a G5 and FinalCutPro 5.0.2?

August 31st, 2005, 03:12 PM	#68
Betsy Moore Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 444	Wow, Heath, thanks, so if my student discount runs out on the 14th of September and the reveal is on the 20th, is there any delay strategy I can employ? Like ordering and then--I don't know... also, re: artifacts and all that stuff, does the new full Final Cut 5 still have all those artifacts? Do I still need to get a third part app on top of all that stuff? Ay-yi-yi... maybe I can't get those lights after all...

August 31st, 2005, 03:29 PM	#69
Alan Galbraith Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 98	ok, what reveal?

August 31st, 2005, 09:55 PM	#70
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	That Apple may use the dual core chips IBM announced (two processors on one chip). Betsy, you're fine right now, don't buy a new computer. Yes, you can capture, edit and export to tape, all in native HDV, all in Final Cut Pro 5 (www.apple.com/finalcutpro) No artifacts in FCP 5 editing, that's Final Cut Express HD and iMovie HD. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

August 31st, 2005, 10:10 PM	#71
Alan Galbraith Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 98	danke mucho... I'm in the hunt for a new Mac also... BUT, I dont think can or will wait. Got work to do now. plus, just cuz new units are announced, doesnt mean that they will be on the market, or that the software will be re-written for them either... risky wait, risky buy.

August 31st, 2005, 10:19 PM	#72
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	No announcement yet, just rumors and speculation. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

August 31st, 2005, 10:36 PM	#73
Betsy Moore Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 444	Thanks Heath:) I haven't got the Dual 2 yet, maybe I'll wait a week just to see if any rumors come of anything. It's all so daunting.

September 6th, 2005, 09:52 PM	#74
James Wicks Tourist Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: West Palm Beach, FL USA Posts: 2	multiple vtr's and fcp 5.02 I've been following this thread and it parallels a problem that I have been trying to overcome. I have a G5 2x2, 2x23"HD CD, FCP 5.02, Sony M10U, and a JVC HM-DH4000U VHS player/recorder. Both vtrs have iLink, and Apple Profiler sees them both. Objective: using FCP to capture video from both vtrs. So far I have not found the solution. However, I have discovered that Apple's Virtual DVHS and DVHScap control the JVC very nicely. Does anyone know if FCP supports DVHS codecs? And if so, what the settings might be? The other side of the coin is finding a work around. My only thought here is to do a two-step: dump video from the JVC into the Sony; then use FCP to capture from the M10U. FCP Wish List: ability to switch between multiple vtrs on the fly within FCP. Jim Wicks Palm Beach Gardens, FL

September 6th, 2005, 09:56 PM	#75
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Welcome aboard, Jim. Glad to see an old friend here at the best videomaker/filmmaker, etc., community on the web! I'll research your problem and see what I can do. I have the first JVC D-VHS deck, the 30000. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog