NLE Mac / Final Cut questions from 2003

Mike Butler · November 27th, 2003, 11:24 PM

Well, I have used the sm58 and "A mic like the shure SM58"--namely, look-a-likes from A/T, AKG, etc. for interviews and other uses with my XL1 right through the MA100 and it sounded pretty decent to my tired old ears.

Now maybe the Beachtek is not everything I thought it was, I haven't had occasion to use one, so I'll hold off on recommending that item, but the MA provides me the perfect portal to the XL1 for XLR-connected dynamic mics like that, imho.

How much more directional are you suggesting, Glenn? Hypercardioid? Shotgun? The ones I mentioned above are cardioid and have proven adequate for my appications in terms of back rejection, but of course I have no idea how much ambient noise Rick is dealing with.

Jeff Price · November 28th, 2003, 10:40 AM

While I was in CompUSA this morning picking up more compact flash I saw a new NLE for Mac OSX. I think it is called Media Pro or Media Editor PRO.

It looks sort of like iMovie with additional plug-ins or maybe a cross between iMovie and FCE. Anyone know anything about it?

Patricia Kim · November 28th, 2003, 01:02 PM

www.macXware.com for a few more details. Haven't tried it yet, but flagged the site pending a possible decision to buy it.

Steve Nunez · November 28th, 2003, 08:59 PM

Saw that software in CompUSA also- it's available as a "demo" at the site listed above......with it's paint over video feature- seems like a good buy at $79

John Locke · December 3rd, 2003, 12:23 AM

I just stumbled across this site

http://www.livetypecentral.com/

which isn't listed under "Resources" on the Apple site, so that got me wondering if any of you know of other sites that offer plug-ins for FCP 4.0, Soundtrack, and LiveType?

Specifically, I'm interested in:

- More sound samples/loops for the Soundtrack library
- Anything available for LiveType (the templates on the site above are pretty nice)
- Any other plug-ins for FCP 4.0 (several of the sites listed under "Resources" on the Apple site have disclaimers saying their plug-ins don't work with FCP 4.0 yet)

Ken Tanaka · December 3rd, 2003, 01:27 AM

John,
I've not (yet) used LiveType. But I have used Soundtrack. Basically you can add any of the Acid loop libraries and darn near any other compatible sound files to the Soundtrack library.

I bought a couple of libraries and was able to add them with absolutely no problem. Even the libraries' metadata imported for categorization sorting.

December 3rd, 2003, 01:41 AM

You could also use the CMI cds as well for SoundTrack

FCP filters

www.nattress.com
Good and solid
http://www.joesfilters.com/
these are good

http://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/fcp_homepage_index.html

go there and look at the filters that he shows and also he shows where to get free ones

http://www.virtix.com/
One of the best also they post samples and freebies
http://www.kafwang.com/EUREKA/EurekaMain.html

this where you can EUREKA and there are freebies there also they are cool looking ones

December 3rd, 2003, 01:52 AM

By the way I like your website...please don't look at mine as I have a professional doing it over as it was done by a rookie being me. By the way I like your website...please don't look at mine as I have a professional redoing it over as it was done by a rookie being me.

David Slingerland · December 3rd, 2003, 02:08 PM

This is a rather strange question. The program IDVD has a "theater" front were you can load films or photo's to. I want to know who wrote or composed the tune you here. It is something which came with the program. I captured it with a program called wiretap and used in an item that will be broadcast on tv. Naturally rights must be paid, so I must know who made it? any suggestions? is it from a film or something apple had made by an artist?

Dan Uneken · December 3rd, 2003, 03:46 PM

Does anyone know whether Joe's Filter stuff also works for PAL (such as the de-interlace and Broadcast Legalizer)?

Ken Tanaka · December 3rd, 2003, 04:18 PM

Yes, I'm pretty confident that they are all PAL-compatible.

Joe Maller, the suite's author, is a mamber here at DVInfo. Hopefully he'll respond directly.

Linc Kesler · December 4th, 2003, 04:32 PM

I currently have quite a bit of tape I am working with that was shot on a Canon GL2. I edit so far on OSX 1.2.6. Final Cut Pro 3.0.2, and Quicktime 6.3. So far I have avoided the dreaded Canon sync problem that has been the subject of past postings by not updating past FCP 3.0.2 ( I think it was the next update that killed sync with anything beyond QT 6.2+). It does seem, from some other more recent posts, that FCP 4 has not really solved this problem, at least for a couple of people. I'd be interested in any other people's experience with the GL2 and FCP 4 for long takes (mine are often hour long interviews), but I'd also be really interested in knowing if Panther plays any role in this problem. If not, I'll upgrade to Panther, but stick with FCP 3.0.2. I'm happy with FCP 3.0.2 for my purposes if that is the key player. Real sync problems would kill me (or at least force a major reinstall). In every other respect, by the way, the GL2 is a great camera, at least for what I do.

thanks in advance for any advice,
Linc Kesler

Patricia Kim · December 4th, 2003, 10:01 PM

In the absence of a response here, I can only suggest that you try apple/support/discussions/idvd, as one of the helpers in that forum might know. Or try apple directly.

Rick Banfield · December 5th, 2003, 03:50 AM

A couple of simple questions pls.
1.What is the best way to get a list and the properties of clips that are in a particular sequence?
2. Is there a more efficient way to note on any clip that is has been used in a seq. I have been just putting a note in the description or comment colums of the browser?

I didn't realise I had so many short wildlife shots, and after logging and capturing them, I wanted to make sure that I include all of them in a sequence somewhere.
Thanks
Rick Banfield

Andrew Hogan · December 7th, 2003, 11:42 PM

As always when I finish a video project and backup, I Trash everything on my Video Capture HDD and then using NORTON SYSTEMWORKS 2.0 I Run Disk Doctor on it AND my Startup Mac HDD. Then I proceed to do Speed Disk (Defrag) on both drives too. Be good to your Hard Drives and they be good and fast to you, Right?

No! Then OSX 10.3.1 Panther won't boot up.

I had to reinstall Panther again.

In future I might use Dosk Doctor and Speed Disk but only on the Capture Drive. Never again on the boot up HDD.

November 27th, 2003, 11:24 PM	#1411
Mike Butler Machinist Mate Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Southern Connecticut Posts: 644	Well, I have used the sm58 and "A mic like the shure SM58"--namely, look-a-likes from A/T, AKG, etc. for interviews and other uses with my XL1 right through the MA100 and it sounded pretty decent to my tired old ears. Now maybe the Beachtek is not everything I thought it was, I haven't had occasion to use one, so I'll hold off on recommending that item, but the MA provides me the perfect portal to the XL1 for XLR-connected dynamic mics like that, imho. How much more directional are you suggesting, Glenn? Hypercardioid? Shotgun? The ones I mentioned above are cardioid and have proven adequate for my appications in terms of back rejection, but of course I have no idea how much ambient noise Rick is dealing with. __________________ I ain't straight outta Compton, I'm straight out the trailer. Cuss like a sailor, drink like a Mc. My only words of wisdom are just, "Radio Edit."

November 28th, 2003, 10:40 AM	#1412
Jeff Price Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chico, California Posts: 357	New software While I was in CompUSA this morning picking up more compact flash I saw a new NLE for Mac OSX. I think it is called Media Pro or Media Editor PRO. It looks sort of like iMovie with additional plug-ins or maybe a cross between iMovie and FCE. Anyone know anything about it? __________________ Jeff Price Flickerflix Nature Videos flickerflix@yahoo.com

November 28th, 2003, 08:59 PM	#1414
Steve Nunez Trustee Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 1,418	Saw that software in CompUSA also- it's available as a "demo" at the site listed above......with it's paint over video feature- seems like a good buy at $79 __________________ Steve Nunez-New York City www.stevenunez.com

December 3rd, 2003, 12:23 AM	#1415
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	Plug-ins for Soundtrack and LiveType? I just stumbled across this site http://www.livetypecentral.com/ which isn't listed under "Resources" on the Apple site, so that got me wondering if any of you know of other sites that offer plug-ins for FCP 4.0, Soundtrack, and LiveType? Specifically, I'm interested in: - More sound samples/loops for the Soundtrack library - Anything available for LiveType (the templates on the site above are pretty nice) - Any other plug-ins for FCP 4.0 (several of the sites listed under "Resources" on the Apple site have disclaimers saying their plug-ins don't work with FCP 4.0 yet) __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

December 3rd, 2003, 01:27 AM	#1416
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	John, I've not (yet) used LiveType. But I have used Soundtrack. Basically you can add any of the Acid loop libraries and darn near any other compatible sound files to the Soundtrack library. I bought a couple of libraries and was able to add them with absolutely no problem. Even the libraries' metadata imported for categorization sorting. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

November 28th, 2003, 01:02 PM	#1413
Patricia Kim Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 453	www.macXware.com for a few more details. Haven't tried it yet, but flagged the site pending a possible decision to buy it.

December 3rd, 2003, 01:41 AM	#1417
Guest Posts: n/a	You could also use the CMI cds as well for SoundTrack FCP filters www.nattress.com Good and solid http://www.joesfilters.com/ these are good http://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/fcp_homepage_index.html go there and look at the filters that he shows and also he shows where to get free ones http://www.virtix.com/ One of the best also they post samples and freebies http://www.kafwang.com/EUREKA/EurekaMain.html this where you can EUREKA and there are freebies there also they are cool looking ones

December 3rd, 2003, 01:52 AM	#1418
Guest Posts: n/a	By the way I like your website...please don't look at mine as I have a professional doing it over as it was done by a rookie being me. By the way I like your website...please don't look at mine as I have a professional redoing it over as it was done by a rookie being me.

December 3rd, 2003, 02:08 PM	#1419
David Slingerland Major Player Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soest ,Holland Posts: 307	musicquestion about IDVD This is a rather strange question. The program IDVD has a "theater" front were you can load films or photo's to. I want to know who wrote or composed the tune you here. It is something which came with the program. I captured it with a program called wiretap and used in an item that will be broadcast on tv. Naturally rights must be paid, so I must know who made it? any suggestions? is it from a film or something apple had made by an artist? __________________ D.Slingerland director/cameraman http://www.slingerlandproductions.nl

December 3rd, 2003, 03:46 PM	#1420
Dan Uneken Major Player Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Andalucia, Spain Posts: 301	Does anyone know whether Joe's Filter stuff also works for PAL (such as the de-interlace and Broadcast Legalizer)? __________________ Film & TV locations & production Spain http://www.fotofilmvideo.com/

December 3rd, 2003, 04:18 PM	#1421
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Yes, I'm pretty confident that they are all PAL-compatible. Joe Maller, the suite's author, is a mamber here at DVInfo. Hopefully he'll respond directly. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

December 4th, 2003, 04:32 PM	#1422
Linc Kesler Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vancouver BC Posts: 65	Dreaded Canon sync problem on capture I currently have quite a bit of tape I am working with that was shot on a Canon GL2. I edit so far on OSX 1.2.6. Final Cut Pro 3.0.2, and Quicktime 6.3. So far I have avoided the dreaded Canon sync problem that has been the subject of past postings by not updating past FCP 3.0.2 ( I think it was the next update that killed sync with anything beyond QT 6.2+). It does seem, from some other more recent posts, that FCP 4 has not really solved this problem, at least for a couple of people. I'd be interested in any other people's experience with the GL2 and FCP 4 for long takes (mine are often hour long interviews), but I'd also be really interested in knowing if Panther plays any role in this problem. If not, I'll upgrade to Panther, but stick with FCP 3.0.2. I'm happy with FCP 3.0.2 for my purposes if that is the key player. Real sync problems would kill me (or at least force a major reinstall). In every other respect, by the way, the GL2 is a great camera, at least for what I do. thanks in advance for any advice, Linc Kesler

December 4th, 2003, 10:01 PM	#1423
Patricia Kim Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 453	In the absence of a response here, I can only suggest that you try apple/support/discussions/idvd, as one of the helpers in that forum might know. Or try apple directly.

December 5th, 2003, 03:50 AM	#1424
Rick Banfield Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Australian Posts: 34	Sequence Logging A couple of simple questions pls. 1.What is the best way to get a list and the properties of clips that are in a particular sequence? 2. Is there a more efficient way to note on any clip that is has been used in a seq. I have been just putting a note in the description or comment colums of the browser? I didn't realise I had so many short wildlife shots, and after logging and capturing them, I wanted to make sure that I include all of them in a sequence somewhere. Thanks Rick Banfield

December 7th, 2003, 11:42 PM	#1425
Andrew Hogan Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Canberra AUSTRALIA Posts: 169	WARNING: Panther and Norton Disk Doctor As always when I finish a video project and backup, I Trash everything on my Video Capture HDD and then using NORTON SYSTEMWORKS 2.0 I Run Disk Doctor on it AND my Startup Mac HDD. Then I proceed to do Speed Disk (Defrag) on both drives too. Be good to your Hard Drives and they be good and fast to you, Right? No! Then OSX 10.3.1 Panther won't boot up. I had to reinstall Panther again. In future I might use Dosk Doctor and Speed Disk but only on the Capture Drive. Never again on the boot up HDD.