NLE Mac / Final Cut questions from 2003

Rob Lohman · October 5th, 2003, 03:16 PM

You don't need or want to change resolution and audio if
possible at all. Leave that to the last option, unless you are
doing web broadcast. The trick is using a different codec. What
codec are you using now? Most people who want to retain
some quality but also have a high compression level choose
the Sorenson codec (the higher the version you have the
better).

Glenn Chan · October 5th, 2003, 04:08 PM

MPEG4 video will encode a lot faster than sorenson3, and a bit worse quality.

If you are still getting stuck on quicktime export then try looking for offline media. You will need to reconnect it. If you have offline media then the export will get stuck. Of course, this may not be your problem.

2- Doesn't your negative cutter want an Edit Decision List?

Rob Lohman · October 5th, 2003, 04:36 PM

Anyone?

Istvan Toth · October 5th, 2003, 10:49 PM

Thanks for suggestments.
The reason I need it is that the negative cutter wants also a QT-file to create a tape to be able to control the EDL-list (which was created by CinemaTools). The same disire has also the Optical-lab, but one wants it in Betacam the other in VHS-format....:-)

The main problem is that for a very stupid reason I telecined originally on PAL, so I need to reconvert first everything in NTSC, and then create the tape.

I'll try now the other Codecs, maybe they will work better. I have still the whole night to go...

Thanks anyway for help
Istvan

John Locke · October 6th, 2003, 05:54 AM

I just trashed everything once and for all from my Classic environment and am wondering if there's a SAFE way to get rid of that partition as well. Any ideas? FCP is hungry...I need more space!

Justin Morgan · October 6th, 2003, 06:08 AM

Hi - I've got iDVD 2 which came with my Mac when I bought it. I see on Apple.com that there is now a version 3. Is there a way for me to update from 2 to 3? On the Apple website I can see downlads to update from 2 to 2.1 and from 3 to 3.1 but nothing from 2 to 3. Is there a way of doing this?

Patricia Kim · October 6th, 2003, 11:38 AM

You have to purchase iDVD 3 separately (comes with the iLife suite) and then you can upgrade to 3.0.1.

Patricia Kim · October 6th, 2003, 12:10 PM

Have you checked the apple/support/discussion/osx forum - I think it's discussed there, including suggestions for how best to fully back up your material in OSX first.

Dean Sensui · October 6th, 2003, 01:30 PM

Repartitioning a drive also re-formats the entire drive. So back up everything on all partitions before doing that as you'll lose everything in the process.

Personally, I prefer to set aside a seperate partition for the operating system and applications. Files, which are constantly re-written and modified, will then only fragment one partition and leave the startup partition untouched.

With OS 10, the startup partition has to be fairly large. It seems the OS uses a great deal of space on the drive and I'm not exactly sure why. But I now set it up with at least two gigabytes of free space.

Dean Sensui
Base Two Productions

Glenn Chan · October 6th, 2003, 04:24 PM

If your version of iDVD works, I would not upgrade. A lot of folks have problems with the newer version.

John Locke · October 6th, 2003, 05:32 PM

Thanks, guys. I originally had Classic on a partition with 5Gb, then OSX on the big part of the partition.

Since I can't simply swallow up the 5Gb partition without reformatting the entire drive, I'll just leave it there and designate that 5Gb for photos only.

Don Berube · October 6th, 2003, 06:04 PM

I love Soundtrack! I think it offers a lot of valuable music solutions that were never quite available before for the average NLE editor. I found creating music with Soundtrack rather easy and a lot of fun to boot!

Here's a brief sample clip of one groove I created during my first encounter with Soundtrack - without even having to read the manual or consult any help files. It was still a lot of fun to create hehehe
http://noisybrain.com/apple/soundtra...ple_100503.mov

This makes me want to figure out how to create my own Soundtrack samples with my guitar.

http://www.apple.com/soundtrack

- don

Patricia Kim · October 6th, 2003, 06:51 PM

Check out the discussion forum at apple to get an idea of the problems to which Glenn refers. The other side of the story is someone like myself, who have only owned a camcorder since the beginning of July. I have had very few problems with either iMovie or iDVD and all have been solved - most of them by ensuring as much hard drive space free as possible and by storing projects not in use on an external firewire drive. And I'm working on a Powerbook with only 60GB of hard drive space total.

Ted Springer · October 6th, 2003, 06:55 PM

It can be kind of cool to play with. I immediately recognized your work as samples from Soundtrack, so it does kind of stick out.

Not too long ago a friend of mine and I were riding our bikes around when we decided to tool around on the ol' Hutch BMX. I decided to video tape it with no planning whatsoever with the XL1 and 3X wide angle lens (no tripod or anything). I used Soundtrack to do the music. Check it out:

Click here to download. Quicktime. 16.8 MB

Justin Morgan · October 7th, 2003, 02:26 AM

Okay, thanks - I'll stick with 2.1 - it seems adequate.

October 5th, 2003, 03:16 PM	#1126
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	You don't need or want to change resolution and audio if possible at all. Leave that to the last option, unless you are doing web broadcast. The trick is using a different codec. What codec are you using now? Most people who want to retain some quality but also have a high compression level choose the Sorenson codec (the higher the version you have the better). __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

October 5th, 2003, 04:36 PM	#1128
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Anyone? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

October 5th, 2003, 10:49 PM	#1129
Istvan Toth Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Venice-Italy Posts: 52	Thanks for suggestments. The reason I need it is that the negative cutter wants also a QT-file to create a tape to be able to control the EDL-list (which was created by CinemaTools). The same disire has also the Optical-lab, but one wants it in Betacam the other in VHS-format....:-) The main problem is that for a very stupid reason I telecined originally on PAL, so I need to reconvert first everything in NTSC, and then create the tape. I'll try now the other Codecs, maybe they will work better. I have still the whole night to go... Thanks anyway for help Istvan __________________ Istvan Toth RED #1161

October 6th, 2003, 05:54 AM	#1130
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	Un-partitioning a Mac I just trashed everything once and for all from my Classic environment and am wondering if there's a SAFE way to get rid of that partition as well. Any ideas? FCP is hungry...I need more space! __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

October 6th, 2003, 06:08 AM	#1131
Justin Morgan Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: London Posts: 189	iDVD updates Hi - I've got iDVD 2 which came with my Mac when I bought it. I see on Apple.com that there is now a version 3. Is there a way for me to update from 2 to 3? On the Apple website I can see downlads to update from 2 to 2.1 and from 3 to 3.1 but nothing from 2 to 3. Is there a way of doing this?

October 5th, 2003, 04:08 PM	#1127
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	MPEG4 video will encode a lot faster than sorenson3, and a bit worse quality. If you are still getting stuck on quicktime export then try looking for offline media. You will need to reconnect it. If you have offline media then the export will get stuck. Of course, this may not be your problem. 2- Doesn't your negative cutter want an Edit Decision List?

October 6th, 2003, 11:38 AM	#1132
Patricia Kim Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 453	You have to purchase iDVD 3 separately (comes with the iLife suite) and then you can upgrade to 3.0.1.

October 6th, 2003, 12:10 PM	#1133
Patricia Kim Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 453	Have you checked the apple/support/discussion/osx forum - I think it's discussed there, including suggestions for how best to fully back up your material in OSX first.

October 6th, 2003, 01:30 PM	#1134
Dean Sensui Inner Circle Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 2,054	Repartitioning a drive also re-formats the entire drive. So back up everything on all partitions before doing that as you'll lose everything in the process. Personally, I prefer to set aside a seperate partition for the operating system and applications. Files, which are constantly re-written and modified, will then only fragment one partition and leave the startup partition untouched. With OS 10, the startup partition has to be fairly large. It seems the OS uses a great deal of space on the drive and I'm not exactly sure why. But I now set it up with at least two gigabytes of free space. Dean Sensui Base Two Productions

October 6th, 2003, 04:24 PM	#1135
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	If your version of iDVD works, I would not upgrade. A lot of folks have problems with the newer version.

October 6th, 2003, 05:32 PM	#1136
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	Thanks, guys. I originally had Classic on a partition with 5Gb, then OSX on the big part of the partition. Since I can't simply swallow up the 5Gb partition without reformatting the entire drive, I'll just leave it there and designate that 5Gb for photos only. __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

October 6th, 2003, 06:04 PM	#1137
Don Berube Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Boston, MA (travel frequently) Posts: 837	Apple's Soundtrack is way cool!!! I love Soundtrack! I think it offers a lot of valuable music solutions that were never quite available before for the average NLE editor. I found creating music with Soundtrack rather easy and a lot of fun to boot! Here's a brief sample clip of one groove I created during my first encounter with Soundtrack - without even having to read the manual or consult any help files. It was still a lot of fun to create hehehe http://noisybrain.com/apple/soundtra...ple_100503.mov This makes me want to figure out how to create my own Soundtrack samples with my guitar. http://www.apple.com/soundtrack - don __________________ DONALD BERUBE - noisybrain. Productions, LLC Director Of Photography/ Producer/ Consultant http://noisybrain.com/donbio.html CREATE and NETWORK with http://www.bosfcpug.org and also http://fcpugnetwork.org

October 6th, 2003, 06:51 PM	#1138
Patricia Kim Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 453	Check out the discussion forum at apple to get an idea of the problems to which Glenn refers. The other side of the story is someone like myself, who have only owned a camcorder since the beginning of July. I have had very few problems with either iMovie or iDVD and all have been solved - most of them by ensuring as much hard drive space free as possible and by storing projects not in use on an external firewire drive. And I'm working on a Powerbook with only 60GB of hard drive space total.

October 6th, 2003, 06:55 PM	#1139
Ted Springer Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Glendale CA Posts: 328	It can be kind of cool to play with. I immediately recognized your work as samples from Soundtrack, so it does kind of stick out. Not too long ago a friend of mine and I were riding our bikes around when we decided to tool around on the ol' Hutch BMX. I decided to video tape it with no planning whatsoever with the XL1 and 3X wide angle lens (no tripod or anything). I used Soundtrack to do the music. Check it out: Click here to download. Quicktime. 16.8 MB

October 7th, 2003, 02:26 AM	#1140
Justin Morgan Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: London Posts: 189	Okay, thanks - I'll stick with 2.1 - it seems adequate.