NLE Mac / Final Cut questions from 2003

Matt Stahley · February 2nd, 2003, 02:10 PM

Ahh i get it now. I wasnt sure if it mirrored the desktop or could display a seperate image.Thanks for the info. I will continue to use the pass thru on my sony pc-110 which i currently use as a deck. Can long powered(AC) on times cause any type of damage to a camera?

Boyd Ostroff · February 2nd, 2003, 04:27 PM

I have a G4/733 with a Radeon 7000 Mac Edition in a PCI slot. Have been very happy with this setup as it lets me add a second computer monitor as well as s-video out. Each screen can have its own independent resolution and color profile. The "ATI Displays" control panel gives you lots of control over the s-video and I generally set this as my external video in FCP. Am able to get nicer output for s-vhs tapes this way by tweaking the color, brightness, screen size, etc. You may want to look into this option as I think its cheaper than the 9000 or 8500.

Brian Pink · February 2nd, 2003, 04:27 PM

hey, i've been thinking about upgrading from my g4/500 single to a new 15inch 1ghz powerbook. my question is this, in that setup, how do people usually capture their dv? i currently have my deck-cam plugged into one FW port, and i capture to a 7200rpm Western Digital FW drive plugged into the other port. i've read that it can be sketchy daisy-chaining the cam and drive. does anyone use this same setup and have any advice for me? also, do you think i'm safe for the single processor or will i need dualies to run all the tricks in FCP4?

- brian

Ken Tanaka · February 2nd, 2003, 05:47 PM

Hello Brian,
I have the 1GHz PowerBook and have not had trouble capturing DV footage from a cam to a daisy-chained FireWire drive. I've used both a 5400 rpm and a 7200 rpm drive for capture with the PowerBook and had no trouble with either.

February 3rd, 2003, 04:28 PM

Hi guys... i have a powerbook g3 with firewire ports. I use a sony dcr trv103 and canon xl1s. I can capture but i cant play back to the cameras via firewire. Do you guys know of a way to do that? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanx

Vince

Ken Tanaka · February 3rd, 2003, 04:50 PM

Vince,
I'm not sure what the trouble may be. But I suspect it may be related to the cam's certification status with FCP 3.x. Generally this indicates a camera's full compliance with the IEEE 1394 protocol.

Jeff Donald · February 4th, 2003, 09:20 AM

Leapfrog Productions has just released Closed Captioning software for OSX. A free demo is available here.

Kirk Messner · February 4th, 2003, 04:09 PM

Is this the standard resolution the GL2 captures video in? If I save a frame in iMovie3, it defaults to 640x480. I've seen this 720 x 480 number used in several threads, and assumes it was the NTSC standard, but I just happened to notice these settings for new images in PS7:

720 x 540 Std. NTSC 601
720 x 534 Std. NTSC DV/DVD
864 x 486 Wide NTSC 601
864 x 480 Wide NTSC DV/DVD
768 x 576 Std. PAL
1024 x 576 Wide PAL
1280 x 720 HDTV 720P
1920 x 1080 HDTV 1080i

No option for 720 x 480. Any ideas? Thank!!

Kirk

Peter Moore · February 4th, 2003, 10:08 PM

To my knowledge, the only thing that NTSC demands is 480 lines. It isn't concerned with the resolution of each line (720, 640, etc.) because it is analog.

Digital NTSC (DVDs) is supposed to be 720 x 480, as is the DV format, so that's where the number comes from. The pixels have an aspect ratio of approximately .9 for 4x3, and 1.2 for 16x9.

Rob Lohman · February 5th, 2003, 06:24 AM

I'm assuming you mean Photoshop when you are talking about
PS7? What people generally do is manipulate pictures in Photoshop
at a different resolution than video. The resolutions you name
for NTSC should be resampled/resized to 720x480 in your NLE
which will result in a 0.9 pixel aspect instead of the computer
default of 1.0. Just use it at that resolution and have your NLE
resize the images (Premiere -> Lock aspect ratio).

Brian Pink · February 5th, 2003, 09:37 AM

i'm glad to hear that there's no problems. of course those new dual 1.42's are looking pretty sweet... =)

Ken Tanaka · February 6th, 2003, 11:51 PM

Anything that would make that job easier is worth it. I've only taken one genuine swing at it with DVD Studio Pro. Painful. Tedious. A job one is sentenced to by a court rather than elects to undertake.

Scott Silverman · February 7th, 2003, 02:59 AM

Do they only make it for OSX? No free demos for me and my PC?

February 7th, 2003, 11:41 AM

Has anyone had any experience with Maxtor 120GIG firewire external drives with 911 princeton chipset casings for an Express DV setup?

or any fierewre drives used for digital video.

How do they respond? Do they work well if a hub is used to connect multiple drives?

Rob Lohman · February 7th, 2003, 11:53 AM

The only thing that I know is that some people on the board
use firewire drives (or normal harddisk in a firewire case) without
any problems. I do not have the answer to your other questions...

February 2nd, 2003, 04:27 PM	#92
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	Re: Radeon 9000 I have a G4/733 with a Radeon 7000 Mac Edition in a PCI slot. Have been very happy with this setup as it lets me add a second computer monitor as well as s-video out. Each screen can have its own independent resolution and color profile. The "ATI Displays" control panel gives you lots of control over the s-video and I generally set this as my external video in FCP. Am able to get nicer output for s-vhs tapes this way by tweaking the color, brightness, screen size, etc. You may want to look into this option as I think its cheaper than the 9000 or 8500.

February 2nd, 2003, 04:27 PM	#93
Brian Pink Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 94	Powerbook hey, i've been thinking about upgrading from my g4/500 single to a new 15inch 1ghz powerbook. my question is this, in that setup, how do people usually capture their dv? i currently have my deck-cam plugged into one FW port, and i capture to a 7200rpm Western Digital FW drive plugged into the other port. i've read that it can be sketchy daisy-chaining the cam and drive. does anyone use this same setup and have any advice for me? also, do you think i'm safe for the single processor or will i need dualies to run all the tricks in FCP4? - brian __________________ This is the way the world ends.

February 2nd, 2003, 05:47 PM	#94
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Hello Brian, I have the 1GHz PowerBook and have not had trouble capturing DV footage from a cam to a daisy-chained FireWire drive. I've used both a 5400 rpm and a 7200 rpm drive for capture with the PowerBook and had no trouble with either. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

February 3rd, 2003, 04:28 PM	#95
vince remo Posts: n/a	how to Hi guys... i have a powerbook g3 with firewire ports. I use a sony dcr trv103 and canon xl1s. I can capture but i cant play back to the cameras via firewire. Do you guys know of a way to do that? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanx Vince

February 3rd, 2003, 04:50 PM	#96
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Vince, I'm not sure what the trouble may be. But I suspect it may be related to the cam's certification status with FCP 3.x. Generally this indicates a camera's full compliance with the IEEE 1394 protocol. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

February 2nd, 2003, 02:10 PM	#91
Matt Stahley Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Waynesboro, PA Posts: 648	Ahh i get it now. I wasnt sure if it mirrored the desktop or could display a seperate image.Thanks for the info. I will continue to use the pass thru on my sony pc-110 which i currently use as a deck. Can long powered(AC) on times cause any type of damage to a camera?

February 4th, 2003, 09:20 AM	#97
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Need Closed Captioning ? New software available. Leapfrog Productions has just released Closed Captioning software for OSX. A free demo is available here. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 4th, 2003, 04:09 PM	#98
Kirk Messner Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Fowlerville, MI Posts: 51	NTSC Standard = 720 x 480 ? Is this the standard resolution the GL2 captures video in? If I save a frame in iMovie3, it defaults to 640x480. I've seen this 720 x 480 number used in several threads, and assumes it was the NTSC standard, but I just happened to notice these settings for new images in PS7: 720 x 540 Std. NTSC 601 720 x 534 Std. NTSC DV/DVD 864 x 486 Wide NTSC 601 864 x 480 Wide NTSC DV/DVD 768 x 576 Std. PAL 1024 x 576 Wide PAL 1280 x 720 HDTV 720P 1920 x 1080 HDTV 1080i No option for 720 x 480. Any ideas? Thank!! Kirk

February 4th, 2003, 10:08 PM	#99
Peter Moore Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Arlington VA Posts: 1,034	To my knowledge, the only thing that NTSC demands is 480 lines. It isn't concerned with the resolution of each line (720, 640, etc.) because it is analog. Digital NTSC (DVDs) is supposed to be 720 x 480, as is the DV format, so that's where the number comes from. The pixels have an aspect ratio of approximately .9 for 4x3, and 1.2 for 16x9.

February 5th, 2003, 06:24 AM	#100
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I'm assuming you mean Photoshop when you are talking about PS7? What people generally do is manipulate pictures in Photoshop at a different resolution than video. The resolutions you name for NTSC should be resampled/resized to 720x480 in your NLE which will result in a 0.9 pixel aspect instead of the computer default of 1.0. Just use it at that resolution and have your NLE resize the images (Premiere -> Lock aspect ratio). __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 5th, 2003, 09:37 AM	#101
Brian Pink Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 94	i'm glad to hear that there's no problems. of course those new dual 1.42's are looking pretty sweet... =) __________________ This is the way the world ends.

February 6th, 2003, 11:51 PM	#102
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Anything that would make that job easier is worth it. I've only taken one genuine swing at it with DVD Studio Pro. Painful. Tedious. A job one is sentenced to by a court rather than elects to undertake. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

February 7th, 2003, 02:59 AM	#103
Scott Silverman Major Player Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Cupertino, California, USA Posts: 301	Do they only make it for OSX? No free demos for me and my PC? __________________ Scott Silverman Shining Star Digital Video Productions Bay Area, CA

February 7th, 2003, 11:41 AM	#104
Rich Conley Posts: n/a	Firewire drives... good/bad for DV? Has anyone had any experience with Maxtor 120GIG firewire external drives with 911 princeton chipset casings for an Express DV setup? or any fierewre drives used for digital video. How do they respond? Do they work well if a hub is used to connect multiple drives?

February 7th, 2003, 11:53 AM	#105
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	The only thing that I know is that some people on the board use firewire drives (or normal harddisk in a firewire case) without any problems. I do not have the answer to your other questions... __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors