V1U with FCS2 and Aliasing at DVinfo.net

Katie Mims · October 15th, 2008, 10:05 PM

Hi All,

I know there is TONS of information out there on workflows for the V1U and FCS2, but I've read so much of it at this point and heard so many different points of view that I'm just at a loss now:-(

I have a project I shot on the V1U, 24p, Cinema Picture Profile.

I'm editing with FCS2 6.0.4, on a MacPro 2x3 Dual Core with 4GB memory and a HD Cinema Display.

I captured in FCS 6.0.4 with these settings:
Sequence: HDV - 1080i60
Capture: HDV
Device Control: HDV Firewire

I know from looking at my footage (which unfortunately I've already edited...don't ask my why I went ahead and did this, knowing it looked crummy) that these are the wrong settings. The quality in general is terrible, and the aliasing is absolutely HORRIBLE.

From reading this: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/sony-hvr-...cp-6-02-a.html

It's my understanding that the proper workflow is:
24p/60i on tape: Capture to the 24p Apple Intermediate Codec or Apple ProRes 422 codec, then output to the HVR-V1 camcorder in 24p/60i mode.

So, I have two questions.
1. Will the workflow above work properly and give me footage without the aliasing?

2. Which is best, AIC or ProRes?

3. Obviously I need to re-capture. Is there a way to do a batch capture only using clips used in my current timeline, so that everything automatically matches to what I've edited with the new footage, or do I have to start over from scratch?

ANY help/advice is much appreciated.

Katie

Katie Mims · October 16th, 2008, 12:34 PM

Hi all,

Just to make sure I haven't lost my mind, I went back and looked at my footage clips in QuickTime, just to make sure I was right, but the artifacts are still there. It looks like a combination of interlacing and aliasing.

I definitely shot in 24p, NOT 24pA. No question there.

When I click through the frames, I end up with three frames that look good like this: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3049/...6cdf5085_o.jpg

And two that look like this: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3208/...330318ff_o.jpg

When I look at everything edited in FCS, it looks absolutely horrible. Infinitely worse than what is pictured in the photo above. I tried multiple sequence settings, and I can't seem to find anything that looks right.

Ideas? What have I done wrong somewhere along the way?

What settings do other V1U users use?

Thanks,
Katie

Jeff Turkali · October 31st, 2008, 01:53 AM

Hi Katie,

I also got that same flaw in some footage I edited in FCP when I converted to SD from HDV captured in apple Inter. codec. Everything looked fine in editing. But the rendered file looks like yours.

I would like to know if you have already resolved your issue and what you ended up doing.

Jeff

October 15th, 2008, 10:05 PM	#1
Katie Mims Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 32	V1U with FCS2 and Aliasing Hi All, I know there is TONS of information out there on workflows for the V1U and FCS2, but I've read so much of it at this point and heard so many different points of view that I'm just at a loss now:-( I have a project I shot on the V1U, 24p, Cinema Picture Profile. I'm editing with FCS2 6.0.4, on a MacPro 2x3 Dual Core with 4GB memory and a HD Cinema Display. I captured in FCS 6.0.4 with these settings: Sequence: HDV - 1080i60 Capture: HDV Device Control: HDV Firewire I know from looking at my footage (which unfortunately I've already edited...don't ask my why I went ahead and did this, knowing it looked crummy) that these are the wrong settings. The quality in general is terrible, and the aliasing is absolutely HORRIBLE. From reading this: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/sony-hvr-...cp-6-02-a.html It's my understanding that the proper workflow is: 24p/60i on tape: Capture to the 24p Apple Intermediate Codec or Apple ProRes 422 codec, then output to the HVR-V1 camcorder in 24p/60i mode. So, I have two questions. 1. Will the workflow above work properly and give me footage without the aliasing? 2. Which is best, AIC or ProRes? 3. Obviously I need to re-capture. Is there a way to do a batch capture only using clips used in my current timeline, so that everything automatically matches to what I've edited with the new footage, or do I have to start over from scratch? ANY help/advice is much appreciated. Katie

October 16th, 2008, 12:34 PM	#2
Katie Mims Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 32	Hi all, Just to make sure I haven't lost my mind, I went back and looked at my footage clips in QuickTime, just to make sure I was right, but the artifacts are still there. It looks like a combination of interlacing and aliasing. I definitely shot in 24p, NOT 24pA. No question there. When I click through the frames, I end up with three frames that look good like this: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3049/...6cdf5085_o.jpg And two that look like this: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3208/...330318ff_o.jpg When I look at everything edited in FCS, it looks absolutely horrible. Infinitely worse than what is pictured in the photo above. I tried multiple sequence settings, and I can't seem to find anything that looks right. Ideas? What have I done wrong somewhere along the way? What settings do other V1U users use? Thanks, Katie

October 31st, 2008, 01:53 AM	#3
Jeff Turkali Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 57	Hi Katie, I also got that same flaw in some footage I edited in FCP when I converted to SD from HDV captured in apple Inter. codec. Everything looked fine in editing. But the rendered file looks like yours. I would like to know if you have already resolved your issue and what you ended up doing. Jeff