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Steve Lewis · July 14th, 2008, 08:44 PM

When I play my timeline (in FCP 6), I hear a little click noise between each cut or clip in the timeline. Is this normal, will the click noise be in my final exported file?
-Steve

Bill Ravens · July 14th, 2008, 09:08 PM

One way to eliminate the click is to put a very short(less than 1 sec) fade at the beginning and end of the mating clips.

Steve Lewis · July 14th, 2008, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ravens

One way to eliminate the click is to put a very short(less than 1 sec) fade at the beginning and end of the mating clips.

Thanks Bill,
But will that noise always be there whenever i work in FCP? Seems kinda odd.
-Steve

Steve Lewis · July 15th, 2008, 05:07 PM

Anyone have some more info on this? Or do i just simply have to add a .5 second audio fade between EVERY clip from now until eternity!?!?! Thanks for any insight!
-Steve

William Hohauser · July 15th, 2008, 07:25 PM

No you don't.

It has to do with the audio on that particular footage. Certain background noise will cause a "pop" on hard cuts. Clean audio, voice tracks for example, will almost never pop on cuts. I can cut down music tracks and not get a pop.

A very brief audio transition (3 to 10 frames) will eliminate pops on cuts when needed.

Steve Lewis · July 15th, 2008, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by William Hohauser

Certain background noise will cause a "pop" on hard cuts. Clean audio, voice tracks for example, will almost never pop on cuts.

Good to know, thanks William. By clean, do you mean audio that has NO loud or grumbling background noise? The "pop" just so happens to be present between footage that was shot on a loud boat with twin engines that never stopped making noise. That would explain the pops then?!
-Steve

Josh Bass · July 15th, 2008, 11:15 PM

In Vegas there is an option to automatically put a "micro-fade" at the head and tail of all your clips. Does FCP have anything like this?

William Hohauser · July 16th, 2008, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Lewis

Good to know, thanks William. By clean, do you mean audio that has NO loud or grumbling background noise? The "pop" just so happens to be present between footage that was shot on a loud boat with twin engines that never stopped making noise. That would explain the pops then?!
-Steve

That's exactly the sort of sound that would do this.

If someone has made a "micro-fade" audio plug-in for FCP, I haven't heard of it.

Phil Kay · July 16th, 2008, 12:01 PM

That's what I do in FCE - if there are any pops or clicks I put in a 'manual micro fade'.

Shaun Roemich · July 16th, 2008, 01:40 PM

I'll assume you are using consumer DV footage. Due to the non-locked nature of DV (versus DVCam or DVCPro or JVC's ProDV) audio, occasionally there are "pops" in the audio when clips are butt ended together due to mathematical errors and "overages" in the clip bit allocation. The very brief audio cross fade will take care of this or space JUST the audio 1 frame apart rather than "butt ending" clips.

Bill Ravens · July 16th, 2008, 05:19 PM

If you expand the waveform until you see the wave cross the x-axis of the plot and cut at the crossing point, you'll minimize the chances for a click.

Steve Lewis · July 16th, 2008, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun Roemich

I'll assume you are using consumer DV footage.

Hi Shaun,
It's actually HDV footage, thanks for that info. Thanks to everyone else in this thread too, your help is invaluable as always on this forum!
-Steve

July 14th, 2008, 08:44 PM	#1
Steve Lewis Major Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Goleta, CA Posts: 233	Click noise between clips When I play my timeline (in FCP 6), I hear a little click noise between each cut or clip in the timeline. Is this normal, will the click noise be in my final exported file? -Steve __________________ www.spreefilms.com - Give me a museum and I'll fill it!

July 15th, 2008, 05:07 PM	#4
Steve Lewis Major Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Goleta, CA Posts: 233	Anyone have some more info on this? Or do i just simply have to add a .5 second audio fade between EVERY clip from now until eternity!?!?! Thanks for any insight! -Steve __________________ www.spreefilms.com - Give me a museum and I'll fill it!

July 15th, 2008, 07:25 PM	#5
William Hohauser Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 2,650	No you don't. It has to do with the audio on that particular footage. Certain background noise will cause a "pop" on hard cuts. Clean audio, voice tracks for example, will almost never pop on cuts. I can cut down music tracks and not get a pop. A very brief audio transition (3 to 10 frames) will eliminate pops on cuts when needed. __________________ William Hohauser - New York City Producer/Edit/Camera/Animation

July 15th, 2008, 11:15 PM	#7
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	In Vegas there is an option to automatically put a "micro-fade" at the head and tail of all your clips. Does FCP have anything like this? __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

July 16th, 2008, 12:01 PM	#9
Phil Kay Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Peel,Isle of Man(UK) Posts: 194	That's what I do in FCE - if there are any pops or clicks I put in a 'manual micro fade'. __________________ Canon XH-A1,SGPRO flip,Apple imac,FCExpress http://www.pbase.com/philkneen

July 14th, 2008, 09:08 PM	#2
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	One way to eliminate the click is to put a very short(less than 1 sec) fade at the beginning and end of the mating clips.

July 16th, 2008, 01:40 PM	#10
Shaun Roemich Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia (formerly Winnipeg, Manitoba) Canada Posts: 4,088	I'll assume you are using consumer DV footage. Due to the non-locked nature of DV (versus DVCam or DVCPro or JVC's ProDV) audio, occasionally there are "pops" in the audio when clips are butt ended together due to mathematical errors and "overages" in the clip bit allocation. The very brief audio cross fade will take care of this or space JUST the audio 1 frame apart rather than "butt ending" clips. __________________ Shaun C. Roemich Road Dog Media - Vancouver, BC - Videographer - Webcaster www.roaddogmedia.ca Blog: http://roaddogmedia.wordpress.com/

July 16th, 2008, 05:19 PM	#11
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	If you expand the waveform until you see the wave cross the x-axis of the plot and cut at the crossing point, you'll minimize the chances for a click.