comparing editors at DVinfo.net

Morris Myers · June 12th, 2008, 10:53 AM

I am looking to buy a editor. for years I have been sharing an editor with some friends, but now I am looking to get my own. I have been using final cut pro on the Mac, but a friend is strongly suggesting I get Adobe Premiere for Mac because Adobe is a better program to him. I thought I read someplace that Adobe is moving away from their Mac program. I am considering going with Adobe because of their After Effects program which is think is an awesome program.

any suggestions.

Tom Hardwick · June 12th, 2008, 11:17 AM

Far from moving away from Apple, Adobe has now re-written Premiere for the Mac. I'd say it doesn't matter what editing program you plump for - Media 100, FCP, Edius, Premiere Elements - as long as you get to really know them and you have a spark of originality you'll get to be a good editor.

Dave Pecunies · June 12th, 2008, 12:14 PM

Well said Tom. Personally I wouldn't put a Ford engine in Chevy. The nice thing about Apple products is (for the most part) they play very nice together.

Mike Williams · June 12th, 2008, 11:28 PM

Would you like to author in HD? Maybe Blu-Ray disk someday?

Bill Ravens · June 13th, 2008, 06:07 AM

I'd take a serious look at AVID Media Composer, as this has always been an industry standard. If you can edit on Avid, you can find work almost anywhere. On the other hand, Final Cut Pro is holding about 45% of the market share right now. FCP is rapidly becoming the industry standard tool.

I would recommend staying as far away from Premiere as you can.

Dave Pecunies · June 13th, 2008, 06:35 AM

Before spending money on an Avid I would read this thread:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=123552

Theodore McNeil · June 13th, 2008, 07:29 AM

On the wikipedia there is a pretty good comparison of all the NLEs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...iting_software

Hope this helps...

John C. Plunkett · June 13th, 2008, 09:08 AM

If you're doing indie work only then work with whatever you feel the most comfortable with.

Mike Barber · June 13th, 2008, 09:48 AM

To throw another 2¢ into the pot…

I'v worked on both FCP and Avid. Both are great and I don't find either to be necessarily "better" than the other. It's mostly a matter of a few trade-offs and different ways of doing the same thing. I have a personal preference for FCP which is based mostly on the interface design. I find it cleaner and much easier to work with. This is a personal preference, nothing more. (Also, I have only worked with Avid on PC, which is a major score against it in my book. I hate working in a Windoze environment. Hate it with a passion as intense as a thousand suns.)

Oh, BTW… I use After Effects too. Many FCP users use it, so there's no reason to base your choice of NLE on whether or not you use AE.

James Brill · June 13th, 2008, 07:21 PM

I switch between both FCP and Avid Media Composer / Symphony daily at my work and I find that they both have their strong points. FCP will allow you to stay update with codecs and new things that come out a lot better than Avid. Avid on the other hand gives you strong media management tools which is the most important thing in editing especially long format shows. I think of it like this, if you want to do projects that are close or over an hour long Avid will be perfect. On the other hand if you want to stay indie or only want to bang out web vids or music videos (things under 10 minutes) then FCP is just fine. Not to say either can't do each other's job in this case but I feel that there are certain people using Avid and certain people using FCP and that the manufacturers of these products are suiting them for their customer.

June 12th, 2008, 10:53 AM	#1
Morris Myers Tourist Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sarasota FL Posts: 3	comparing editors I am looking to buy a editor. for years I have been sharing an editor with some friends, but now I am looking to get my own. I have been using final cut pro on the Mac, but a friend is strongly suggesting I get Adobe Premiere for Mac because Adobe is a better program to him. I thought I read someplace that Adobe is moving away from their Mac program. I am considering going with Adobe because of their After Effects program which is think is an awesome program. any suggestions.

June 12th, 2008, 11:28 PM	#4
Mike Williams Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USVI Posts: 232	HD Delivery? Would you like to author in HD? Maybe Blu-Ray disk someday?

June 13th, 2008, 07:29 AM	#7
Theodore McNeil Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Centreville, Maryland Posts: 258	On the wikipedia there is a pretty good comparison of all the NLEs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...iting_software Hope this helps... __________________ http://twitter.com/tedmcneil

June 13th, 2008, 09:48 AM	#9
Mike Barber Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Toronto ON Canada Posts: 731	To throw another 2¢ into the pot… I'v worked on both FCP and Avid. Both are great and I don't find either to be necessarily "better" than the other. It's mostly a matter of a few trade-offs and different ways of doing the same thing. I have a personal preference for FCP which is based mostly on the interface design. I find it cleaner and much easier to work with. This is a personal preference, nothing more. (Also, I have only worked with Avid on PC, which is a major score against it in my book. I hate working in a Windoze environment. Hate it with a passion as intense as a thousand suns.) Oh, BTW… I use After Effects too. Many FCP users use it, so there's no reason to base your choice of NLE on whether or not you use AE. __________________ Mike Barber "I'm laughing to stop myself from screaming."

June 12th, 2008, 11:17 AM	#2
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	Far from moving away from Apple, Adobe has now re-written Premiere for the Mac. I'd say it doesn't matter what editing program you plump for - Media 100, FCP, Edius, Premiere Elements - as long as you get to really know them and you have a spark of originality you'll get to be a good editor.

June 12th, 2008, 12:14 PM	#3
Dave Pecunies Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Albany Township, ME Posts: 95	Well said Tom. Personally I wouldn't put a Ford engine in Chevy. The nice thing about Apple products is (for the most part) they play very nice together.

June 13th, 2008, 06:07 AM	#5
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	I'd take a serious look at AVID Media Composer, as this has always been an industry standard. If you can edit on Avid, you can find work almost anywhere. On the other hand, Final Cut Pro is holding about 45% of the market share right now. FCP is rapidly becoming the industry standard tool. I would recommend staying as far away from Premiere as you can.

June 13th, 2008, 06:35 AM	#6
Dave Pecunies Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Albany Township, ME Posts: 95	Before spending money on an Avid I would read this thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=123552

June 13th, 2008, 09:08 AM	#8
John C. Plunkett Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Jacksonville, Illinois Posts: 130	If you're doing indie work only then work with whatever you feel the most comfortable with.

June 13th, 2008, 07:21 PM	#10
James Brill Major Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Goleta, CA Posts: 299	I switch between both FCP and Avid Media Composer / Symphony daily at my work and I find that they both have their strong points. FCP will allow you to stay update with codecs and new things that come out a lot better than Avid. Avid on the other hand gives you strong media management tools which is the most important thing in editing especially long format shows. I think of it like this, if you want to do projects that are close or over an hour long Avid will be perfect. On the other hand if you want to stay indie or only want to bang out web vids or music videos (things under 10 minutes) then FCP is just fine. Not to say either can't do each other's job in this case but I feel that there are certain people using Avid and certain people using FCP and that the manufacturers of these products are suiting them for their customer.