Canon XL & XH 24F, 25F, 30F capture in FCP / FCE

Dean Collins · February 21st, 2007, 10:13 PM

I have the 5.1.2 version of FCP on my mac and have the A1. I have shot in 60i and have uloaded footage fine. I then shot in 24F and uploaded my footage and noticed that the log and capture was a very long delay between the "log and capture" and my a1. When it was all imported the sound was completley off. The sound was awful and i had to move it manually but it still didnt sound good. Why is it that it is not syncing correctly? Someone help asap!

Dean Collins · February 27th, 2007, 07:11 PM

Everytime time i import my 24f footage its outta sync. When i capture it from the camera there is a major delay that i notice while importing and when it's done. Why is this? I dont want to always have to match the audio up, i just want it to capture in sync. Can someone help?

-dean

Chris Hurd · February 28th, 2007, 01:16 AM

Name the capture / editing program please

Bill Pryor · February 28th, 2007, 02:16 PM

I have an iBook, the early white model, a small 12" one with a pretty slow processor by editing computer standards. It's not designed for proper use of FCP, but I installed it anyway just so I could experiment with capturing footage at home when I first got my XH A1. I shot in HDV, 24P.

What happened was that the footage was out of sync. If I exported a QT and then played that QT on another computer, it also was out of sync.

However, just as experiment, I captured some footage to the iBook, and then transferred it to the G5. It played in sync just fine on the G5. My conclusion: the iBook is too darn slow for HD playback. So, if you shoot something and it looks in sync when you play it back in your camera but not when you capture it, my guess is that it's your computer.

Dean Collins · February 28th, 2007, 06:49 PM

Im running Final Cut Pro 5.1.3
and my settings under audio/video setup are

SEQUENCE PRESET: HDV - 1080p24

CAPTURE PRESET: HDV

DEVICE CONTROL PRESET: HDV FIREWIRE

VIDEO PLAYBACK: NONE

AUDIO PLAYBACK: DEFAULT

help!

Chris Hurd · February 28th, 2007, 07:46 PM

Okay, moved from Canon XH to NLE Mac.

Chris Hurd · February 28th, 2007, 07:50 PM

This is now the official Help Dean Collins with Final Cut Pro discussion -- merged four threads into one.

Jeff Nelson · March 23rd, 2007, 08:25 AM

I'm not seeing any 1080 30f capture in final cut pro easy setup. Any suggestions?

Mike Flynn · March 23rd, 2007, 11:19 AM

The 30f footage captures in a normal 60i project as far as I know. That's what I do and it doesn't require a render in the sequence.

Jeff Nelson · March 23rd, 2007, 12:38 PM

That's interesting. Thanks, I'll give it a try.

Geoffrey Baker · March 27th, 2007, 11:49 AM

I have been trying to capture from my Canon XH A1 into FCE 3.5.1. The footage was shot @ 24f. When captured the audio is out of sync.

I have been able to capture @ 60i with no issues.

So it appears that FCE does not support 24f. Is this correct? I have been unable to find a definite answer.

Thanks in advance.

Geoffrey S. Baker

Boyd Ostroff · March 27th, 2007, 01:01 PM

AFAIK, FCE doesn't support 24p or 24f. In the past Apple had a handy comparison chart showing feature differences between FCE and FCP, but I can't find it anymore on their site. Older versions definitely did not support 24p. Regardless, I think this is one of the premium features they reserve for the more expensive version...

Adam Condal · April 9th, 2007, 09:38 PM

Anyone else have this combo - I recorded HDV in 24f on a Canon XH A1 and I'm trying to capture it into Final Cut Pro 5.1 on my Powerbook G4 1.67ghz. What Audio/Video settings should I use? I've tried pretty much everything but I think I might not have the combination of Sequence preset, Capture preset, Device control preset and Video/Audio playback.

The specific issue I'm encountering is that the video and audio are not synced after they come in and the capture tool says the deck (I'm using my camera as the deck) is 25-29% behind. I have 2gb ram so I don't think it's a memory issue. Has anyone run into similar problems or does anyone have any thoughts on how I could fix this?

I downconverted the video in my camera menu to standard definition and could capture the footage fine with basic DV NTSC settings, so I know it wasn't a tape issue.

Thanks.

-A

Roberto Bellini · April 11th, 2007, 03:19 PM

Are you doing the realtime AIC conversion? I tried that and could not get it to work. I entually settled on capturing straight hdv and converting with compressor.

Steve Benner · April 13th, 2007, 05:05 PM

Since 5.1.2, there should be an easy setup for 1080/24P - HDV setting. This is for the Canon in 24f.

February 21st, 2007, 10:13 PM	#106
Dean Collins Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United States Posts: 30	Bad capture of Canon 24F HDV I have the 5.1.2 version of FCP on my mac and have the A1. I have shot in 60i and have uloaded footage fine. I then shot in 24F and uploaded my footage and noticed that the log and capture was a very long delay between the "log and capture" and my a1. When it was all imported the sound was completley off. The sound was awful and i had to move it manually but it still didnt sound good. Why is it that it is not syncing correctly? Someone help asap!

February 27th, 2007, 07:11 PM	#107
Dean Collins Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United States Posts: 30	Out Of Sync Everytime time i import my 24f footage its outta sync. When i capture it from the camera there is a major delay that i notice while importing and when it's done. Why is this? I dont want to always have to match the audio up, i just want it to capture in sync. Can someone help? -dean

February 28th, 2007, 01:16 AM	#108
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Name the capture / editing program please __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 28th, 2007, 07:46 PM	#111
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Okay, moved from Canon XH to NLE Mac. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 28th, 2007, 07:50 PM	#112
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	This is now the official Help Dean Collins with Final Cut Pro discussion -- merged four threads into one. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 28th, 2007, 02:16 PM	#109
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	I have an iBook, the early white model, a small 12" one with a pretty slow processor by editing computer standards. It's not designed for proper use of FCP, but I installed it anyway just so I could experiment with capturing footage at home when I first got my XH A1. I shot in HDV, 24P. What happened was that the footage was out of sync. If I exported a QT and then played that QT on another computer, it also was out of sync. However, just as experiment, I captured some footage to the iBook, and then transferred it to the G5. It played in sync just fine on the G5. My conclusion: the iBook is too darn slow for HD playback. So, if you shoot something and it looks in sync when you play it back in your camera but not when you capture it, my guess is that it's your computer.

February 28th, 2007, 06:49 PM	#110
Dean Collins Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United States Posts: 30	Im running Final Cut Pro 5.1.3 and my settings under audio/video setup are SEQUENCE PRESET: HDV - 1080p24 CAPTURE PRESET: HDV DEVICE CONTROL PRESET: HDV FIREWIRE VIDEO PLAYBACK: NONE AUDIO PLAYBACK: DEFAULT help!

March 23rd, 2007, 08:25 AM	#113
Jeff Nelson Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 194	how to capture Canon 30F in FCP? I'm not seeing any 1080 30f capture in final cut pro easy setup. Any suggestions?

March 23rd, 2007, 11:19 AM	#114
Mike Flynn Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Renton, WA Posts: 94	The 30f footage captures in a normal 60i project as far as I know. That's what I do and it doesn't require a render in the sequence.

March 23rd, 2007, 12:38 PM	#115
Jeff Nelson Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 194	That's interesting. Thanks, I'll give it a try.

March 27th, 2007, 11:49 AM	#116
Geoffrey Baker New Boot Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oella, Maryland Posts: 12	FCE 3.5.1 and Canon 24f audio sync problem I have been trying to capture from my Canon XH A1 into FCE 3.5.1. The footage was shot @ 24f. When captured the audio is out of sync. I have been able to capture @ 60i with no issues. So it appears that FCE does not support 24f. Is this correct? I have been unable to find a definite answer. Thanks in advance. Geoffrey S. Baker

March 27th, 2007, 01:01 PM	#117
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	AFAIK, FCE doesn't support 24p or 24f. In the past Apple had a handy comparison chart showing feature differences between FCE and FCP, but I can't find it anymore on their site. Older versions definitely did not support 24p. Regardless, I think this is one of the premium features they reserve for the more expensive version...

April 9th, 2007, 09:38 PM	#118
Adam Condal Tourist Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 2	Canon XH A1 and FCP 5.1 - Capture Issues? Anyone else have this combo - I recorded HDV in 24f on a Canon XH A1 and I'm trying to capture it into Final Cut Pro 5.1 on my Powerbook G4 1.67ghz. What Audio/Video settings should I use? I've tried pretty much everything but I think I might not have the combination of Sequence preset, Capture preset, Device control preset and Video/Audio playback. The specific issue I'm encountering is that the video and audio are not synced after they come in and the capture tool says the deck (I'm using my camera as the deck) is 25-29% behind. I have 2gb ram so I don't think it's a memory issue. Has anyone run into similar problems or does anyone have any thoughts on how I could fix this? I downconverted the video in my camera menu to standard definition and could capture the footage fine with basic DV NTSC settings, so I know it wasn't a tape issue. Thanks. -A

April 11th, 2007, 03:19 PM	#119
Roberto Bellini New Boot Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Belo Horizonte, Brazil Posts: 19	Aic Are you doing the realtime AIC conversion? I tried that and could not get it to work. I entually settled on capturing straight hdv and converting with compressor. __________________ "I'm just videotaping the birds..." -------------------------------------- http://www.rbellini.org

April 13th, 2007, 05:05 PM	#120
Steve Benner Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: United States Posts: 590	Since 5.1.2, there should be an easy setup for 1080/24P - HDV setting. This is for the Canon in 24f.