Canon XL & XH 24F, 25F, 30F capture in FCP / FCE

Evan C. King · February 5th, 2007, 11:55 PM

In 60i HD the A1 should work on any apple NLE, your problem is most likely using 24f which only final cut pro supports.

Nick Weeks · February 6th, 2007, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan C. King

In 60i HD the A1 should work on any apple NLE, your problem is most likely using 24f which only final cut pro supports.

Also note that only version 5.1.2 supports the 24F mode on the A1. I'm not sure about which version of FCP supports the 60i, but my guess would be at least 5.0.

Dean Collins · February 6th, 2007, 01:06 PM

I need help. I guess imovie does not work with the A1. Am I correct?

and

I tried using FCP 5 but it does not give me any options on 1080i24p just 50 and 60. Nothing about 24. I shoot in 24f and I need to edit my footage badly. Is there a FCP Upgrade for free I can get because I just have FCP 5 and just want my HD FOOTAGE TO GO DIRECTLY INTO FCP WITHOUT DOWN CONVERTING IT. I want the same quality and not stretch it out on FCP. But if any one at all knows anything about imovie and why it wont work please help! Its urgent! thanks!

-dean

Jim George · February 6th, 2007, 01:41 PM

I have had success using my iMovie with A1 on 30F, but I haven't tried 24F with it. What is the issue? is it just not detecting the camera?
in FCP you want to use the setting for HDV 1080p24 and put it on 'FireWire basic' for capture. I think you may need 5.1.2, but go ahead and try it out...the A1 didnt' show up on the supported device list until that version of FCP.
Unfortunately, FCP 5.1.2 is a 50 dollar cross grade that needs to be mailed in and it takes a few weeks.
Hope you can get it working! - Jim

Nick Weeks · February 6th, 2007, 01:57 PM

Dean, as we mentioned in your post in the Mac forum, you will need 5.1.2 if you want to use FCP to capture your hi-def 24F directly from the camera. There's no download that I know of... I filled out the form, mailed them a check and my FCP installation CDs, and within a week or two I received my 5.1.2. They only send you the electronic manuals too, so you don't get re-printed ones for 5.1.2.

My 5.1.2 works great with all the footage the A1 can dish out. I've captured 24F, 30F, and 60i with no problems or rendering issues. Device control works great too.

From what I understand the 1080p24 option doesn't even show up without 5.1.2. You might be able to create your own custom setting, but I'm not sure how that would work.

It's $49 plus tax, offer ends March 19 2007:
http://www.apple.com/universal/crossgrade/

You'll need this form:
http://images.apple.com/universal/cr...Crossgrade.pdf

Sorry, can't help you with iMovie

Bill Pryor · February 6th, 2007, 03:26 PM

It's true the 24P HDV setting only comes up with 5.1.2. We bought the crossgrade, installed it, then downloaded the free upgrade to 5.1.2 and it works great.

Bogdan Tyburczy · February 6th, 2007, 03:30 PM

- and support on iPhone will be unleashed next! ;-)

Bill Pryor · February 6th, 2007, 03:49 PM

How about FCP6.iphone? Edit on your iPhone.

Dean Collins · February 6th, 2007, 04:21 PM

thanks guys. Just i borrowed final cut pro 5 from a friend so i dont know if it is like an illegal software and if i spend the money on the 5.1.2 for 50 bucks I want it to work for my FCP. I hear imovie HD works with 60i on the A1. Is that true? I really just wanted imovie to work with 24f because now i have to completely learn FCP and get rid of all the stuff I know about imovie. Kinda bummed about that. Thanks though for the help!

Chris Hurd · February 6th, 2007, 04:52 PM

$50 is chicken feed compared to the $4000 XH A1. Small price to pay for the FCP upgrade. It costs more than that just to fill the gas tank on my Sierra.

Bill Pryor · February 6th, 2007, 04:53 PM

I can fill the tank almost 3 times on my Scion for that:).

Chris Hurd · February 6th, 2007, 06:12 PM

Yeah, but you can't pull a 7,000 lb. horse trailer with a Scion. Not easily anyway!

Bill Pryor · February 6th, 2007, 08:57 PM

True, but the horse could pull the Scion.

Chris Hurd · February 6th, 2007, 09:00 PM

Now that's what I call economical.

Richard Kane · February 6th, 2007, 09:41 PM

i just bought the canon a1 i have final cut pro
however it is an older version
thanks to this site i found out about the upgrade and for $199 i am getting
the whole studio package great deal.
in the mean time i have used i movie capturing 24f 30f and 60i
and have had no trouble.
i am not sure if on playback in imovie it is true 24f but
the video looks amazing!!! I am using the B&W preset found on this forum
shot 24f its breathtaking
I am using the latest version of i movie and checking my mail every day waiting for my new version of final cut pro

February 6th, 2007, 01:06 PM	#78
Dean Collins Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United States Posts: 30	Final Cut Pro And A1 Help Aspap I need help. I guess imovie does not work with the A1. Am I correct? and I tried using FCP 5 but it does not give me any options on 1080i24p just 50 and 60. Nothing about 24. I shoot in 24f and I need to edit my footage badly. Is there a FCP Upgrade for free I can get because I just have FCP 5 and just want my HD FOOTAGE TO GO DIRECTLY INTO FCP WITHOUT DOWN CONVERTING IT. I want the same quality and not stretch it out on FCP. But if any one at all knows anything about imovie and why it wont work please help! Its urgent! thanks! -dean

February 6th, 2007, 04:52 PM	#85
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	$50 is chicken feed compared to the $4000 XH A1. Small price to pay for the FCP upgrade. It costs more than that just to fill the gas tank on my Sierra. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 6th, 2007, 06:12 PM	#87
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Yeah, but you can't pull a 7,000 lb. horse trailer with a Scion. Not easily anyway! __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 6th, 2007, 09:00 PM	#89
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Now that's what I call economical. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 6th, 2007, 09:41 PM	#90
Richard Kane Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: chicago, il Posts: 65	imovie i just bought the canon a1 i have final cut pro however it is an older version thanks to this site i found out about the upgrade and for $199 i am getting the whole studio package great deal. in the mean time i have used i movie capturing 24f 30f and 60i and have had no trouble. i am not sure if on playback in imovie it is true 24f but the video looks amazing!!! I am using the B&W preset found on this forum shot 24f its breathtaking I am using the latest version of i movie and checking my mail every day waiting for my new version of final cut pro

February 5th, 2007, 11:55 PM	#76
Evan C. King Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 532	In 60i HD the A1 should work on any apple NLE, your problem is most likely using 24f which only final cut pro supports.

February 6th, 2007, 01:41 PM	#79
Jim George New Boot Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 5	I have had success using my iMovie with A1 on 30F, but I haven't tried 24F with it. What is the issue? is it just not detecting the camera? in FCP you want to use the setting for HDV 1080p24 and put it on 'FireWire basic' for capture. I think you may need 5.1.2, but go ahead and try it out...the A1 didnt' show up on the supported device list until that version of FCP. Unfortunately, FCP 5.1.2 is a 50 dollar cross grade that needs to be mailed in and it takes a few weeks. Hope you can get it working! - Jim

February 6th, 2007, 01:57 PM	#80
Nick Weeks Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL USA Posts: 722	Dean, as we mentioned in your post in the Mac forum, you will need 5.1.2 if you want to use FCP to capture your hi-def 24F directly from the camera. There's no download that I know of... I filled out the form, mailed them a check and my FCP installation CDs, and within a week or two I received my 5.1.2. They only send you the electronic manuals too, so you don't get re-printed ones for 5.1.2. My 5.1.2 works great with all the footage the A1 can dish out. I've captured 24F, 30F, and 60i with no problems or rendering issues. Device control works great too. From what I understand the 1080p24 option doesn't even show up without 5.1.2. You might be able to create your own custom setting, but I'm not sure how that would work. It's $49 plus tax, offer ends March 19 2007: http://www.apple.com/universal/crossgrade/ You'll need this form: http://images.apple.com/universal/cr...Crossgrade.pdf Sorry, can't help you with iMovie

February 6th, 2007, 03:26 PM	#81
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	It's true the 24P HDV setting only comes up with 5.1.2. We bought the crossgrade, installed it, then downloaded the free upgrade to 5.1.2 and it works great.

February 6th, 2007, 03:30 PM	#82
Bogdan Tyburczy Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 161	- and support on iPhone will be unleashed next! ;-)

February 6th, 2007, 03:49 PM	#83
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	How about FCP6.iphone? Edit on your iPhone.

February 6th, 2007, 04:21 PM	#84
Dean Collins Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United States Posts: 30	thanks guys. Just i borrowed final cut pro 5 from a friend so i dont know if it is like an illegal software and if i spend the money on the 5.1.2 for 50 bucks I want it to work for my FCP. I hear imovie HD works with 60i on the A1. Is that true? I really just wanted imovie to work with 24f because now i have to completely learn FCP and get rid of all the stuff I know about imovie. Kinda bummed about that. Thanks though for the help!

February 6th, 2007, 04:53 PM	#86
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	I can fill the tank almost 3 times on my Scion for that:).

February 6th, 2007, 08:57 PM	#88
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	True, but the horse could pull the Scion.