combining projects at DVinfo.net

Michael Donne · January 21st, 2008, 03:33 PM

Hi Guys

I'm in a mix up over how to consolidate 3 different projects together.

The first consisted of hdv footage captured under an easy setup of HDV-AIC 1080i50. Its now sitting as a sequence of edited and transitioned clips in the timeline. (i notice that if i click on the sequence in the browser the frame size is given as 1440 x 1080, compressor aic and it has upper field dominance and pixel aspect of 'HD1440x1080')

The second is footage i assume was shot SD 16:9, supplied to me as dvcam on tape and ive captured it in a new project with easy setup of dv-pal anamorphic...and it looks proportionally correct to my eye. (the browser shows frame size as 720 x 576, compressor dv-pal, lower field dominance, and pixel aspect of 'PAL-CCIR 601'

The third is footage shot SD 16:9, captured in easy setup dv -pal anamorphic...looks right to my eye. (the browser shows frame size 1440 x 1080, compressor aic, upper field, pixel aspect 'HD1440x1080')

What i need is to get both these things together in one sequence so i can add some titles and transition it all together, then output for plasma screen playback at standard definition.

I'd be grateful for any clues? I've never before dealt with bringing different projects together let alone ones with different settings.

Many thanks.

Craig Parkes · January 21st, 2008, 03:50 PM

What version of Final Cut are you running? It will determine your workflow.

Michael Donne · January 21st, 2008, 04:23 PM

ah..the lowly fce hd 3.5 !

Mathieu Ghekiere · January 22nd, 2008, 01:05 AM

In Final Cut 6 (Final Cut Studio 2) you can put them all together on a timeline and then render out to 1 format.

I think now you should render everything seperately to one format, and then bring it into the same timeline.

Dylan Pank · January 22nd, 2008, 06:28 AM

Micheal,

It's a slow way, but try using MPEG streamclip to batch convert all your HDV files to pal SD 16:9 or vice versa. You can convert them to .dv streams which may import into FCE 3.5 better.

I don't understand this:

Quote:

The third is footage shot SD 16:9, captured in easy setup dv -pal anamorphic...looks right to my eye. (the browser shows frame size 1440 x 1080, compressor aic, upper field, pixel aspect 'HD1440x1080')

if it's SD DV, why is it showing HDV-AIC codec and proportions?

Michael Donne · January 22nd, 2008, 06:19 PM

Dylan i know what you mean about that third set of footage settings not making sense.

Anyway, I seem to have successfully exported the first and third sequences straight to quicktime , then imported the resulting files into the second project, and despite them still being quoted in the browser as differing frame sizes etc, it plays right.

Subsequent export to quicktime and onto idvd also seems to have resulted in consistency across the footage...the only problem being that the dvd plays at 4:3 until i use my tv remote to override it. For my purposes thats not ideal but not the end of the world either.

Thanks guys for your input.

January 21st, 2008, 03:33 PM	#1
Michael Donne Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: brighon uk Posts: 55	combining projects Hi Guys I'm in a mix up over how to consolidate 3 different projects together. The first consisted of hdv footage captured under an easy setup of HDV-AIC 1080i50. Its now sitting as a sequence of edited and transitioned clips in the timeline. (i notice that if i click on the sequence in the browser the frame size is given as 1440 x 1080, compressor aic and it has upper field dominance and pixel aspect of 'HD1440x1080') The second is footage i assume was shot SD 16:9, supplied to me as dvcam on tape and ive captured it in a new project with easy setup of dv-pal anamorphic...and it looks proportionally correct to my eye. (the browser shows frame size as 720 x 576, compressor dv-pal, lower field dominance, and pixel aspect of 'PAL-CCIR 601' The third is footage shot SD 16:9, captured in easy setup dv -pal anamorphic...looks right to my eye. (the browser shows frame size 1440 x 1080, compressor aic, upper field, pixel aspect 'HD1440x1080') What i need is to get both these things together in one sequence so i can add some titles and transition it all together, then output for plasma screen playback at standard definition. I'd be grateful for any clues? I've never before dealt with bringing different projects together let alone ones with different settings. Many thanks.

January 22nd, 2008, 01:05 AM	#4
Mathieu Ghekiere Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,195	In Final Cut 6 (Final Cut Studio 2) you can put them all together on a timeline and then render out to 1 format. I think now you should render everything seperately to one format, and then bring it into the same timeline. __________________ http://productionsofthe3rdkind.com http://pr3k.com

January 21st, 2008, 03:50 PM	#2
Craig Parkes Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 444	What version of Final Cut are you running? It will determine your workflow.

January 21st, 2008, 04:23 PM	#3
Michael Donne Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: brighon uk Posts: 55	ah..the lowly fce hd 3.5 !

January 22nd, 2008, 06:19 PM	#6
Michael Donne Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: brighon uk Posts: 55	Dylan i know what you mean about that third set of footage settings not making sense. Anyway, I seem to have successfully exported the first and third sequences straight to quicktime , then imported the resulting files into the second project, and despite them still being quoted in the browser as differing frame sizes etc, it plays right. Subsequent export to quicktime and onto idvd also seems to have resulted in consistency across the footage...the only problem being that the dvd plays at 4:3 until i use my tv remote to override it. For my purposes thats not ideal but not the end of the world either. Thanks guys for your input.