boot camp and parallels together

Pete Bauer · December 25th, 2007, 08:21 PM

You didn't start anything. There are just a lot of folks out there with an attitude something like (to grossly paraphrase the sentiment), "What I have is best and therefore it is the only possible choice for the entire universe, anyone who disagrees is a pathetic imbecile, and I just have to tell the world about it." Even if the posts are mild, those kind of things generally escalate really fast so we try to nip them in the bud. We don't do platform wars here. Anyway, it wasn't you and no biggie -- just some of the usual housekeeping.

I think XP Pro OEM would be around $199. Fry's Online doesn't list the OEM versions, but that's the cost of the regular XP Pro upgrade, so should be about what the store is charging for the full OEM version over in the computer section (not the boxed retail versions in the software section).

As for Vista, personally I'm still waiting a while after SP1 is released to see how things go.

Josh Bass · December 25th, 2007, 09:07 PM

Ah, 199.

What about home edition?

There are a lot of online stores selling home edition with SP2 for under $100. I had home edition on the dying PC, and it's fine, don't seem to need pro.

Chris Hocking · December 25th, 2007, 09:12 PM

Take a look at this:

http://www.paragon-software.com/home/ntfs-mac/

Josh Bass · December 25th, 2007, 09:17 PM

Looks cool, but I thought Parallels already had a file sharing feature for going between the two?

Chris Hocking · December 25th, 2007, 09:25 PM

Actually, yes, you're correct.

Josh Bass · December 26th, 2007, 12:12 AM

OEM for XP Home is listed at $100 or so. Will that cut it?

Josh Bass · January 4th, 2008, 01:41 AM

Ok, kids. . .the dream is happening. I got my Windows XP with SP2, OEM (around $100), put it in, and I'm running windows as I type this in OSX. It did NOT ask me to reactivate. . .I saw a I message about it, but it hasn't asked me anything yet. Maybe next time I start Windows it will? Anyway, seems to be working fine. Windows magically found my internet connection so I didn't have to set it up again, so now I can connect through either OSX or Win XP.

I'm writing this later than the above paragraph. The dream isn't QUITE as sexy as I thought, yet. I forgot about the fact that parallels doesn't recognize firewire (I thought I read there was some workaround for this, though?). Futhermore, apparently, if you have a firewire device hooked up to your mac and attempt to start parallels, it thinks it's another windows partition and won't start. If it's already running and you attach a firewire device, no problem.

Also, can't connect to the net in boot camp, but I can, even in Windows, in parallel. Weird, eh?

In boot camp, everything is stretched to fill the mac's 16:9 screen, even in programs. So for instance, in Vegas, a 4:3 project looks like 16:9. I don't know if there's a fix for this? And, again, in boot camp, whenever you move a window around, it's really sluggish. . .you can actually see it redrawing the windows as you move them across the screen.

And, it seems to have issues keeping accurate time. I know I set the time when I first installed Windows, but for it then reset, and then did it again recently. Fixable?

Other than all that, it seems to work pretty smoothly so far.

Oh, and I was wrong about the activation . It did ask to be activated, but no problems there. I went online via Parallels and it was all good.

Josh Bass · January 5th, 2008, 02:57 AM

Okay, I lied again. It does need to be activated twice, once for parallels and once for boot camp. Apparently, to the computer, they're two different machines. I don't think it matters which order you do it in, but it MUST be done twice. This is a real issue if you get OEM software, as the product key can only be activated once. I was lucky the code from my old PC worked when I was asked to reactivate. But the rest of you BE CAREFUL!

December 25th, 2007, 08:21 PM	#16
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	You didn't start anything. There are just a lot of folks out there with an attitude something like (to grossly paraphrase the sentiment), "What I have is best and therefore it is the only possible choice for the entire universe, anyone who disagrees is a pathetic imbecile, and I just have to tell the world about it." Even if the posts are mild, those kind of things generally escalate really fast so we try to nip them in the bud. We don't do platform wars here. Anyway, it wasn't you and no biggie -- just some of the usual housekeeping. I think XP Pro OEM would be around $199. Fry's Online doesn't list the OEM versions, but that's the cost of the regular XP Pro upgrade, so should be about what the store is charging for the full OEM version over in the computer section (not the boxed retail versions in the software section). As for Vista, personally I'm still waiting a while after SP1 is released to see how things go. __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

December 25th, 2007, 09:07 PM	#17
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Ah, 199. What about home edition? There are a lot of online stores selling home edition with SP2 for under $100. I had home edition on the dying PC, and it's fine, don't seem to need pro. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

December 25th, 2007, 09:17 PM	#19
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Looks cool, but I thought Parallels already had a file sharing feature for going between the two? __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

December 26th, 2007, 12:12 AM	#21
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	OEM for XP Home is listed at $100 or so. Will that cut it? __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

January 4th, 2008, 01:41 AM	#22
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Ok, kids. . .the dream is happening. I got my Windows XP with SP2, OEM (around $100), put it in, and I'm running windows as I type this in OSX. It did NOT ask me to reactivate. . .I saw a I message about it, but it hasn't asked me anything yet. Maybe next time I start Windows it will? Anyway, seems to be working fine. Windows magically found my internet connection so I didn't have to set it up again, so now I can connect through either OSX or Win XP. I'm writing this later than the above paragraph. The dream isn't QUITE as sexy as I thought, yet. I forgot about the fact that parallels doesn't recognize firewire (I thought I read there was some workaround for this, though?). Futhermore, apparently, if you have a firewire device hooked up to your mac and attempt to start parallels, it thinks it's another windows partition and won't start. If it's already running and you attach a firewire device, no problem. Also, can't connect to the net in boot camp, but I can, even in Windows, in parallel. Weird, eh? In boot camp, everything is stretched to fill the mac's 16:9 screen, even in programs. So for instance, in Vegas, a 4:3 project looks like 16:9. I don't know if there's a fix for this? And, again, in boot camp, whenever you move a window around, it's really sluggish. . .you can actually see it redrawing the windows as you move them across the screen. And, it seems to have issues keeping accurate time. I know I set the time when I first installed Windows, but for it then reset, and then did it again recently. Fixable? Other than all that, it seems to work pretty smoothly so far. Oh, and I was wrong about the activation . It did ask to be activated, but no problems there. I went online via Parallels and it was all good. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB Last edited by Josh Bass; January 4th, 2008 at 06:33 AM.

December 25th, 2007, 09:12 PM	#18
Chris Hocking Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 595	Take a look at this: http://www.paragon-software.com/home/ntfs-mac/

December 25th, 2007, 09:25 PM	#20
Chris Hocking Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 595	Actually, yes, you're correct.

January 5th, 2008, 02:57 AM	#23
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Okay, I lied again. It does need to be activated twice, once for parallels and once for boot camp. Apparently, to the computer, they're two different machines. I don't think it matters which order you do it in, but it MUST be done twice. This is a real issue if you get OEM software, as the product key can only be activated once. I was lucky the code from my old PC worked when I was asked to reactivate. But the rest of you BE CAREFUL! __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB