FCP 4 and HD10 at DVinfo.net

Heath McKnight · June 12th, 2003, 02:37 PM

Well, I'm editing a TV show out here in So Cal, and my buddy just got his FCP 4 upgrade. For now, officially, it won't support mpeg 2-TS. I went through all the manuals looking and saw nothing but exporting to mpeg 2 for DVD stuff.

So, unless I missed something, Apple may include it in 4.0.1 or something.

Then again, they may wait to see what happens with other cameras, and how well the HD1 and HD10 sell. The money spent to either license or develop the mpeg2-TS isn't cheap, I'm sure.

heath

ps-I'll contact my buddies at apple's pro video division and see what they say.

Steve Mullen · June 12th, 2003, 06:00 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Heath McKnight : Well, I'm editing a TV show out here in So Cal, and my buddy just got his FCP 4 upgrade. For now, officially, it won't support mpeg 2-TS. -->>>

Good report.

However, it's not FCP that may need to change, because several of us are using FCP 3 right now.

Everyone needs to remember that besides working with MPEG2 one is also editing HD!

Ask around to see how many folks are editing HD with FCP with no extra hardware -- using HDCAM or DVCPRO100 codecs.

Heath McKnight · June 12th, 2003, 07:19 PM

that may be tough, I don't know many people using HD...Maybe this one company in Tampa, florida that shot and edited my TV station's anchor clips in hi-def. Electric Octopus or something..

heath

<<<-- Originally posted by Steve Mullen : <<<-- Originally posted by Heath McKnight : Well, I'm editing a TV show out here in So Cal, and my buddy just got his FCP 4 upgrade. For now, officially, it won't support mpeg 2-TS. -->>>

Good report.

However, it's not FCP that may need to change, because several of us are using FCP 3 right now.

Everyone needs to remember that besides working with MPEG2 one is also editing HD!

Ask around to see how many folks are editing HD with FCP with no extra hardware -- using HDCAM or DVCPRO100 codecs. -->>>

Paul Mogg · June 13th, 2003, 11:23 AM

I read on another post that there is a utility now available for free with Apple's Firewire 16 SDK that supports direct input into the Mac of MPEG2 TS specifically from this camera, and from other DVHS decks and devices. You can download it from the developer section of Apple's website.

Heath McKnight · June 13th, 2003, 02:12 PM

I'm at the site now, and can't find the download. Can you put up a direct link?

heath

<<<-- Originally posted by Paul Mogg : I read on another post that there is a utility now available for free with Apple's Firewire 16 SDK that supports direct input into the Mac of MPEG2 TS specifically from this camera, and from other DVHS decks and devices. You can download it from the developer section of Apple's website. -->>>

Steve Mullen · June 13th, 2003, 04:29 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Paul Mogg : I read on another post that there is a utility now available for free with Apple's Firewire 16 SDK that supports direct input into the Mac of MPEG2 TS specifically from this camera, and from other DVHS decks and devices. You can download it from the developer section of Apple's website. -->>>

I haven't been free to say anything about this. But yes, Apple has/will offer this function.

I do know it will be used in a coming product in about 30-days.

I do not know if this is a plug-in to QT or FCP -- or a stand-alone utility. It might only be a routine that must be used in a product.

In any case -- this functionality means there will be a Mac NLE solution using FCP 3/4.

Heath McKnight · June 13th, 2003, 04:36 PM

Excellent, then I'll probably be buying this camera next week, if the demo goes well.

heath

ps-Already there are some issues with FCP 4 and AJA Kona--their drivers for the card in FCP 4 are first-edition BETA. My buddy's Mac couldn't find his Kona card in FCP 3 (he just put this system together), but upon installation of 4, it was found. So, aside from the first-ed. beta drivers for FCP 4 from AJA, things are okay.

<<<-- I haven't been free to say anything about this. But yes, Apple has/will offer this function.

I do know it will be used in a coming product in about 30-days.

I do not know if this is a plug-in to QT or FCP -- or a stand-alone utility. It might only be a routine that must be used in a product.

In any case -- this functionality means there will be a Mac NLE solution using FCP 3/4. -->>>

June 12th, 2003, 02:37 PM	#1
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	FCP 4 and HD10 Well, I'm editing a TV show out here in So Cal, and my buddy just got his FCP 4 upgrade. For now, officially, it won't support mpeg 2-TS. I went through all the manuals looking and saw nothing but exporting to mpeg 2 for DVD stuff. So, unless I missed something, Apple may include it in 4.0.1 or something. Then again, they may wait to see what happens with other cameras, and how well the HD1 and HD10 sell. The money spent to either license or develop the mpeg2-TS isn't cheap, I'm sure. heath ps-I'll contact my buddies at apple's pro video division and see what they say.

June 12th, 2003, 06:00 PM	#2
Steve Mullen HDV Cinema Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,007	Re: FCP 4 and HD10 <<<-- Originally posted by Heath McKnight : Well, I'm editing a TV show out here in So Cal, and my buddy just got his FCP 4 upgrade. For now, officially, it won't support mpeg 2-TS. -->>> Good report. However, it's not FCP that may need to change, because several of us are using FCP 3 right now. Everyone needs to remember that besides working with MPEG2 one is also editing HD! Ask around to see how many folks are editing HD with FCP with no extra hardware -- using HDCAM or DVCPRO100 codecs. __________________ Switcher's Quick Guide to the Avid Media Composer >>> http://home.mindspring.com/~d-v-c

June 12th, 2003, 07:19 PM	#3
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Re: Re: FCP 4 and HD10 that may be tough, I don't know many people using HD...Maybe this one company in Tampa, florida that shot and edited my TV station's anchor clips in hi-def. Electric Octopus or something.. heath <<<-- Originally posted by Steve Mullen : <<<-- Originally posted by Heath McKnight : Well, I'm editing a TV show out here in So Cal, and my buddy just got his FCP 4 upgrade. For now, officially, it won't support mpeg 2-TS. -->>> Good report. However, it's not FCP that may need to change, because several of us are using FCP 3 right now. Everyone needs to remember that besides working with MPEG2 one is also editing HD! Ask around to see how many folks are editing HD with FCP with no extra hardware -- using HDCAM or DVCPRO100 codecs. -->>>

June 13th, 2003, 11:23 AM	#4
Paul Mogg Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Francisco CA Posts: 386	I read on another post that there is a utility now available for free with Apple's Firewire 16 SDK that supports direct input into the Mac of MPEG2 TS specifically from this camera, and from other DVHS decks and devices. You can download it from the developer section of Apple's website. __________________ Paul

June 13th, 2003, 04:29 PM	#6
Steve Mullen HDV Cinema Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,007	<<<-- Originally posted by Paul Mogg : I read on another post that there is a utility now available for free with Apple's Firewire 16 SDK that supports direct input into the Mac of MPEG2 TS specifically from this camera, and from other DVHS decks and devices. You can download it from the developer section of Apple's website. -->>> I haven't been free to say anything about this. But yes, Apple has/will offer this function. I do know it will be used in a coming product in about 30-days. I do not know if this is a plug-in to QT or FCP -- or a stand-alone utility. It might only be a routine that must be used in a product. In any case -- this functionality means there will be a Mac NLE solution using FCP 3/4. __________________ Switcher's Quick Guide to the Avid Media Composer >>> http://home.mindspring.com/~d-v-c

June 13th, 2003, 02:12 PM	#5
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	I'm at the site now, and can't find the download. Can you put up a direct link? heath <<<-- Originally posted by Paul Mogg : I read on another post that there is a utility now available for free with Apple's Firewire 16 SDK that supports direct input into the Mac of MPEG2 TS specifically from this camera, and from other DVHS decks and devices. You can download it from the developer section of Apple's website. -->>>

June 13th, 2003, 04:36 PM	#7
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Excellent, then I'll probably be buying this camera next week, if the demo goes well. heath ps-Already there are some issues with FCP 4 and AJA Kona--their drivers for the card in FCP 4 are first-edition BETA. My buddy's Mac couldn't find his Kona card in FCP 3 (he just put this system together), but upon installation of 4, it was found. So, aside from the first-ed. beta drivers for FCP 4 from AJA, things are okay. <<<-- I haven't been free to say anything about this. But yes, Apple has/will offer this function. I do know it will be used in a coming product in about 30-days. I do not know if this is a plug-in to QT or FCP -- or a stand-alone utility. It might only be a routine that must be used in a product. In any case -- this functionality means there will be a Mac NLE solution using FCP 3/4. -->>>