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Mathieu Ghekiere · November 11th, 2007, 02:28 PM

Hi,

I'm in the market for buying a new Mac Pro, but I've heard rumors about new Mac Pro's coming. Now, I know that Apple doesn't announce any upgrades, but just releases it suddenly, so I know that if someone will say what he thinks, it's in the first place an opinion and a rumor, but not a fact.
That being said...

CONSIDERING the HISTORY OF MAC PRO'S, so for anyone who has a bit of experience with Apple and releasing computers (I don't), what would be the biggest bet?
I've heard things between November and January, and I know that's probably the only thing most people know for sure, but is there someone who has some insiders information, or (considering the history) is pretty sure of a certain period?

Thanks,

Pedanes Bol · November 11th, 2007, 02:52 PM

As far as I remember, Apple usually releases new models after the holiday season is over. Late winter or early spring.

P.

Hans Ledel · November 11th, 2007, 03:09 PM

You might find some help here.

http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/

Robert Lane · November 11th, 2007, 03:26 PM

Historically Apple - like other manufacturers - will offer "new" machines that are only incrementally faster than their predecessors, although the glossy, full-page web-ads will have you thinking the small step-up will be like moving at warp speed.

A good rule of thumb is not to upgrade the CPU/mainboard until it's calculative speed is at least double your current model. With that logic, you'd be well-off with an 8-core machine and Leopard, and I would not consider anything newer until they either introduce a 16-core or, a revised CPU that literally has more than double the processing power of an 8-core. I doubt that machine will become a reality in the next iteration of MacPro's only an incremental step-up.

It's worth noting that Leopard has significantly improved processing power on all Mac's and especially the 8-core, mainly due to Leopards completely revamped memory and CPU workload management.

I think there are two other things more important than processing power to watch for from Apple: 1) A new MacPro that has either internal HD-DVD or Blu-Ray burners (or both) and; 2) DVDSP5 and finally allow native Blu-Ray authoring. It was hoped that by NAB this year it would have been announced, maybe by NAB '08 it finally will.

Mathieu Ghekiere · November 11th, 2007, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Lane

A good rule of thumb is not to upgrade the CPU/mainboard until it's calculative speed is at least double your current model.

I'm now working with a 1GB Ram 3.2 Multicore processor, PC, not Mac :-D So it would be a step-up, sure!
(What is actually the difference between a Multicore and a Dual core? is a Multicore like multiple cores... in one core? Don't understand exactly)

Daniel Ross · November 11th, 2007, 04:47 PM

Multi = many; dual = two. Multi might be 32, but I'd guess it's just 2.

Mathieu Ghekiere · November 12th, 2007, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Ross

Multi = many; dual = two. Multi might be 32, but I'd guess it's just 2.

I've read more about it and it seems I have a processor that has Hyper Threading, which makes the processor BELIEVE it has 2 cores...

David Morgan · November 12th, 2007, 09:49 PM

Just read today that Intel is releasing a new series of chips in about 45 days. Double the transistor count of their current line. I would expect to see them in the Mac before too long.

Simon Wyndham · November 13th, 2007, 10:31 AM

Apparently these new chips are capable of being nearly 45% quicker than the current models. But only if the software takes advantage of the new instruction set (SSE4?)

November 11th, 2007, 02:28 PM	#1
Mathieu Ghekiere Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,195	New Mac Pro's... when? Hi, I'm in the market for buying a new Mac Pro, but I've heard rumors about new Mac Pro's coming. Now, I know that Apple doesn't announce any upgrades, but just releases it suddenly, so I know that if someone will say what he thinks, it's in the first place an opinion and a rumor, but not a fact. That being said... CONSIDERING the HISTORY OF MAC PRO'S, so for anyone who has a bit of experience with Apple and releasing computers (I don't), what would be the biggest bet? I've heard things between November and January, and I know that's probably the only thing most people know for sure, but is there someone who has some insiders information, or (considering the history) is pretty sure of a certain period? Thanks, __________________ http://productionsofthe3rdkind.com http://pr3k.com

November 11th, 2007, 03:09 PM	#3
Hans Ledel Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Stockholm Sweden Posts: 184	You might find some help here. http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/ __________________ Remember, that English is my second language.

November 12th, 2007, 09:49 PM	#8
David Morgan Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Burbank CA Posts: 466	new chip in January Just read today that Intel is releasing a new series of chips in about 45 days. Double the transistor count of their current line. I would expect to see them in the Mac before too long.

November 11th, 2007, 02:52 PM	#2
Pedanes Bol Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Boston MA Posts: 167	As far as I remember, Apple usually releases new models after the holiday season is over. Late winter or early spring. P.

November 11th, 2007, 03:26 PM	#4
Robert Lane Go Go Godzilla Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ USA Posts: 2,825 Images: 15	Historically Apple - like other manufacturers - will offer "new" machines that are only incrementally faster than their predecessors, although the glossy, full-page web-ads will have you thinking the small step-up will be like moving at warp speed. A good rule of thumb is not to upgrade the CPU/mainboard until it's calculative speed is at least double your current model. With that logic, you'd be well-off with an 8-core machine and Leopard, and I would not consider anything newer until they either introduce a 16-core or, a revised CPU that literally has more than double the processing power of an 8-core. I doubt that machine will become a reality in the next iteration of MacPro's only an incremental step-up. It's worth noting that Leopard has significantly improved processing power on all Mac's and especially the 8-core, mainly due to Leopards completely revamped memory and CPU workload management. I think there are two other things more important than processing power to watch for from Apple: 1) A new MacPro that has either internal HD-DVD or Blu-Ray burners (or both) and; 2) DVDSP5 and finally allow native Blu-Ray authoring. It was hoped that by NAB this year it would have been announced, maybe by NAB '08 it finally will.

November 11th, 2007, 04:47 PM	#6
Daniel Ross Major Player Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Marin & Davis, CA, USA Posts: 418	Multi = many; dual = two. Multi might be 32, but I'd guess it's just 2.

November 13th, 2007, 10:31 AM	#9
Simon Wyndham Trustee Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Malvern UK Posts: 1,931	Apparently these new chips are capable of being nearly 45% quicker than the current models. But only if the software takes advantage of the new instruction set (SSE4?)