Flipping the Image in Final Cut at DVinfo.net

J.S. King · October 14th, 2007, 02:04 PM

If I were to use a 35mm film adapter how would I get Final Cut to flip the image during post?

Cole McDonald · October 14th, 2007, 04:37 PM

under the video filters, there's a pair of flip/flop filters...don't remember which is which. It's right there for you to pop onto the clip to flip the footage for you :)

Edward Carlson · October 14th, 2007, 04:47 PM

You could also do it in the Motion tab. Just rotate it 180.

Daniel Ross · October 14th, 2007, 05:40 PM

rotating 180 will make it upside down and flipped horizontally.
If you want just one in the motion tab, change the corner points manually, switching positive and negative values on either the X or Y axis.

Cole McDonald · October 14th, 2007, 11:50 PM

Actually, I think the 180 degree thing may be more correct as the image is simply upside down when shot with the adaptor, not backwards or anything...ignore me, listen to ed.

Daniel Ross · October 15th, 2007, 12:07 AM

I went with "flipping", which would mean a unidirectional change.

If the image is rotated 180 degrees, upside down, as if you filmed with the camera inverted, then, sure, rotate 180.

Jim Fields · October 15th, 2007, 07:54 AM

Next time you shoot with your camera, put something in front of the camera with text on it, so you will know in FCP when it has been flipped right.

J.S. King · October 16th, 2007, 07:13 PM

Thanks for all the tips

Derek Nickell · October 17th, 2007, 01:36 PM

Rotate 180....period. You dont have to do a text test...

Bryan Wilkat · October 24th, 2007, 10:50 AM

anyone know if there's a way to flip/rotate it that doesnt involve rendering everytime i touch the clips?? ..its annoying..

Derek Nickell · October 24th, 2007, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan Wilkat

anyone know if there's a way to flip/rotate it that doesnt involve rendering everytime i touch the clips?? ..its annoying..

What are you doing to the clips when you touch them? If its something substantial, you might have to re-render them everytime.

Martin Mayer · October 24th, 2007, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan Wilkat

anyone know if there's a way to flip/rotate it that doesnt involve rendering everytime i touch the clips?? ..its annoying..

I hate to go back to "Plan A", but do try the "Flop" filter (set the controls to BOTH): it has the same effect, yet plays in realtime for me, without rendering, whereas rotating 180 deg. plays back jerkily. (Is that a word?)

Cole McDonald · October 24th, 2007, 06:27 PM

Yes, flip the shot, export and reimport the footage as a rightside up piece.

Bryan Wilkat · October 24th, 2007, 06:29 PM

Okay, i'll try that. Cause right now everytime i so much as move a clip, or change the ins and outs of that clip by dragging it longer, etc.. it requires rendering.

Andy Mees · October 24th, 2007, 06:48 PM

you could batch process the source files to rotate them 180° before you bring them into FCP
I dare say you can do that in Compressor, you can certainly do it with MPEG Streamclip

October 14th, 2007, 02:04 PM	#1
J.S. King Tourist Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mansfield, Texas Posts: 4	Flipping the Image in Final Cut If I were to use a 35mm film adapter how would I get Final Cut to flip the image during post?

October 14th, 2007, 04:37 PM	#2
Cole McDonald Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sauk Rapids, MN, USA Posts: 1,675	under the video filters, there's a pair of flip/flop filters...don't remember which is which. It's right there for you to pop onto the clip to flip the footage for you :) __________________ Web Youtube Facebook

October 14th, 2007, 11:50 PM	#5
Cole McDonald Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sauk Rapids, MN, USA Posts: 1,675	Actually, I think the 180 degree thing may be more correct as the image is simply upside down when shot with the adaptor, not backwards or anything...ignore me, listen to ed. __________________ Web Youtube Facebook

October 24th, 2007, 06:27 PM	#13
Cole McDonald Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sauk Rapids, MN, USA Posts: 1,675	Yes, flip the shot, export and reimport the footage as a rightside up piece. __________________ Web Youtube Facebook

October 14th, 2007, 04:47 PM	#3
Edward Carlson Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: North Hollywood, CA, United States Posts: 807	You could also do it in the Motion tab. Just rotate it 180.

October 14th, 2007, 05:40 PM	#4
Daniel Ross Major Player Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Marin & Davis, CA, USA Posts: 418	rotating 180 will make it upside down and flipped horizontally. If you want just one in the motion tab, change the corner points manually, switching positive and negative values on either the X or Y axis.

October 15th, 2007, 12:07 AM	#6
Daniel Ross Major Player Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Marin & Davis, CA, USA Posts: 418	I went with "flipping", which would mean a unidirectional change. If the image is rotated 180 degrees, upside down, as if you filmed with the camera inverted, then, sure, rotate 180.

October 15th, 2007, 07:54 AM	#7
Jim Fields Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Fort Worth Texas Posts: 247	Next time you shoot with your camera, put something in front of the camera with text on it, so you will know in FCP when it has been flipped right.

October 16th, 2007, 07:13 PM	#8
J.S. King Tourist Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mansfield, Texas Posts: 4	Thanks for all the tips

October 17th, 2007, 01:36 PM	#9
Derek Nickell Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: LA/SFV Posts: 155 Images: 2	Rotate 180....period. You dont have to do a text test...

October 24th, 2007, 10:50 AM	#10
Bryan Wilkat Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 171	anyone know if there's a way to flip/rotate it that doesnt involve rendering everytime i touch the clips?? ..its annoying..

October 24th, 2007, 06:29 PM	#14
Bryan Wilkat Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 171	Okay, i'll try that. Cause right now everytime i so much as move a clip, or change the ins and outs of that clip by dragging it longer, etc.. it requires rendering.

October 24th, 2007, 06:48 PM	#15
Andy Mees Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 645	you could batch process the source files to rotate them 180° before you bring them into FCP I dare say you can do that in Compressor, you can certainly do it with MPEG Streamclip