Mac Question: Folders called "Desktop" at DVinfo.net

Chris Hocking · August 28th, 2007, 07:04 PM

This is something that has always intrigued me...

On my Mac, ALL of my external drives have a folder called "Desktop". If you delete this folder, it reappears after a certain amount of time...

What is this magical reappearing folder? Can I permanent delete it, as there seems to be no point to its existence...

Edward Carlson · August 28th, 2007, 07:46 PM

The same thing happens to me. It is kind of annoying.

Chris Hocking · August 28th, 2007, 07:53 PM

Anyone have any ideas WHY it happens or HOW to stop it?

Tried googling, but it's hard to define a good search string...

Tim Dashwood · August 29th, 2007, 12:15 AM

I think this is a holdover from the pre MacOS X days, when the Desktop items physically did reside in a "Desktop folder" (invisible) for each volume. This meant that each volume needed to keep track of what files where being shown on the universal "Desktop."
For example, let's say you mounted an external hard drive in MacOS9 and then drags one of the files from within that drive to the desktop. The file was still on the volume, but just being presented visually on the desktop. If you trashed (unmounted) that drive then all of its desktop items would have disappeared as well until the next time it was mounted.

In MacOS X it doesn't work that way anymore. The universal desktop is gone. If you drag a file from an external volume to the "desktop" it copies the file to the main Macintosh HD (startup disk.)
This means that anything you see on the desktop has to exist on the startup disk, in the official Desktop folder.

So does it hurt to trash the desktop folders on your external drives? Not at all.

Chris Hocking · August 29th, 2007, 12:23 AM

Thanks Tim!

Is there anyway of stopping OS X to keep making these now-useless folders?

As I said, once you delete it, it suddenly reappears...

Cole McDonald · August 29th, 2007, 12:28 AM

What is the last application you open before it reappears? It could comeback if you open an app that requires the classic environment...or perhaps the system is running some process that is in classic...assuming that you have classic installed. Some applications will also try to call to it as a holdover to the OS9 days, just to see if it's there and available.

It's annoying, but really only takes up one leaf in the b-tree structure, so won't interfere with anything. If you'd like to stop seeing it, you can make it invisible...or perhaps reformat the drive (backup your stuff first or you'll lose it) and make sure the "install os9 drivers" option is unchecked as that may do it as well.

Tim Dashwood · August 29th, 2007, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Cole McDonald

...format the drive (backup your stuff first or you'll lose it) and make sure the "install os9 drivers" option is unchecked as that may do it as well.

That's a good point. It probably doesn't show up if those OS9 drivers aren't on the drive when it is formatted. I have a new USB2 drive that is formatted FAT32 and it doesn't have a Desktop Folder in the root.

August 28th, 2007, 07:04 PM	#1
Chris Hocking Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 595	Mac Question: Folders called "Desktop" This is something that has always intrigued me... On my Mac, ALL of my external drives have a folder called "Desktop". If you delete this folder, it reappears after a certain amount of time... What is this magical reappearing folder? Can I permanent delete it, as there seems to be no point to its existence...

August 29th, 2007, 12:15 AM	#4
Tim Dashwood Wrangler Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 3,637	I think this is a holdover from the pre MacOS X days, when the Desktop items physically did reside in a "Desktop folder" (invisible) for each volume. This meant that each volume needed to keep track of what files where being shown on the universal "Desktop." For example, let's say you mounted an external hard drive in MacOS9 and then drags one of the files from within that drive to the desktop. The file was still on the volume, but just being presented visually on the desktop. If you trashed (unmounted) that drive then all of its desktop items would have disappeared as well until the next time it was mounted. In MacOS X it doesn't work that way anymore. The universal desktop is gone. If you drag a file from an external volume to the "desktop" it copies the file to the main Macintosh HD (startup disk.) This means that anything you see on the desktop has to exist on the startup disk, in the official Desktop folder. So does it hurt to trash the desktop folders on your external drives? Not at all. __________________ Tim Dashwood

August 29th, 2007, 12:28 AM	#6
Cole McDonald Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sauk Rapids, MN, USA Posts: 1,675	What is the last application you open before it reappears? It could comeback if you open an app that requires the classic environment...or perhaps the system is running some process that is in classic...assuming that you have classic installed. Some applications will also try to call to it as a holdover to the OS9 days, just to see if it's there and available. It's annoying, but really only takes up one leaf in the b-tree structure, so won't interfere with anything. If you'd like to stop seeing it, you can make it invisible...or perhaps reformat the drive (backup your stuff first or you'll lose it) and make sure the "install os9 drivers" option is unchecked as that may do it as well. __________________ Web Youtube Facebook

August 28th, 2007, 07:46 PM	#2
Edward Carlson Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: North Hollywood, CA, United States Posts: 807	The same thing happens to me. It is kind of annoying.

August 28th, 2007, 07:53 PM	#3
Chris Hocking Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 595	Anyone have any ideas WHY it happens or HOW to stop it? Tried googling, but it's hard to define a good search string...

August 29th, 2007, 12:23 AM	#5
Chris Hocking Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 595	Thanks Tim! Is there anyway of stopping OS X to keep making these now-useless folders? As I said, once you delete it, it suddenly reappears...