New version of FCPX available

Bill Davis · September 21st, 2011, 10:14 AM

Early in the update - like in the first hour - there were lots of "jump the gun" posts about incompatibility.

These largely were retracted as people figured out how to navigate the upgrade.

I've seen posts where someone said that "XML Import doesn't work" only to have them come back and admit that they just needed to close down and re-boot in order for the code to update.

It's ALWAYS a good idea to back up your work in progress and to "Image" the state of your drives and system when you're installing new software.

But it's also critical in these days of instant world wide blogging not to "harden" your own thinking and opinions based on something you read in the first blush of a new release.

We're not in the world of journalism here. We're in the world of "I've got to get my opinions on the net FIRST!!!!!" And that's a world where factual mistakes are going to increase.

Mom and dad were right. Patience and a bit of perspective often get far better results than "leap to the keyboard before you look around."

For what it's worth.

Heath McKnight · September 21st, 2011, 10:16 AM

Bill,

I think that was one of the problems when FCP X first came out -- the big outcry right off the bat. Many stayed at it, and admitted it was pretty cool.

heath

Marc S. Brown · September 21st, 2011, 10:23 PM

o.k. - a little off topic but you did bring it up - You're editing on Mac MINI???? Really?? How's that working out??

Best,

Marc S. Brown

P.S. - Thanks for your updates!

Never Mind - I saw your reply to an earlier post. I'm still just kinda blown away by the idea though...

William Hohauser · September 21st, 2011, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heath McKnight

For now, you can buy CatDV and import an XML from FCP 7, and it apparently will export an XML for FCP X.

What is CatDV?

heath

I tried the CatDv demo to go from FCP7 to FCPX. Not a great experience, mostly useless for anything but the simplest single track edits.

Mike Peter Reed · September 22nd, 2011, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc S. Brown

o.k. - a little off topic but you did bring it up - You're editing on Mac MINI???? Really?? How's that working out??

Best,

Marc S. Brown

P.S. - Thanks for your updates!

Never Mind - I saw your reply to an earlier post. I'm still just kinda blown away by the idea though...

I'm using FCPX to edit 1080i on a 2009 iMac. I'd love to be editing on an i5 or i7 based system, my system doesn't quite have the chops even when using "optimised" ProRes - I need to try "proxy" on my next project.

All said and done - I don't miss FCP7 at all, I no longer have it installed. Note that I am more an auteur/artist than someone who needs to consistently swap files with others.

Looking forward to getting 10.0.1 on here too, hoping it's squashed a few bugs that have been causing FCPX to crash on me (like some fonts can crash out the inspector, I guess "error trapping" isn't taught at developer school nowadays and don't start me with "on error resume next" !!!! /offtopic )

I also agree that FCPX is more a continuation of the iMovie paradigm - I'd have been using the newest iMovie long ago if it could have done the simplest of things on the audio side.

Heath McKnight · September 22nd, 2011, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by William Hohauser

I tried the CatDv demo to go from FCP7 to FCPX. Not a great experience, mostly useless for anything but the simplest single track edits.

I was told it isn't a perfect system; I haven't downloaded the demo yet myself.

heath

Heath McKnight · September 22nd, 2011, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc S. Brown

o.k. - a little off topic but you did bring it up - You're editing on Mac MINI???? Really?? How's that working out??

P.S. - Thanks for your updates!

Never Mind - I saw your reply to an earlier post. I'm still just kinda blown away by the idea though...

Sure, it's the very minimum of a graphics card, but so far so good. The 8GB of RAM helps, but I wish I could've kept the 16GB of RAM I'm reviewing, and the 240GB SSD drive. What a dream machine (for a Mac mini) that was! I could see myself buying a 15-inch MBP at some point.

heath

William Hohauser · September 22nd, 2011, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heath McKnight

I was told it isn't a perfect system; I haven't downloaded the demo yet myself.

heath

"Not perfect" just about describes it. I have a detailed description in this thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/final-cu...p-x-now-3.html (Note that I'm not the one saying goodbye to FCPX, I'm sticking with it).

There are ways to use it but it just about demolishes any edit with split edits or multiple video tracks. A lot of work needs to be rebuilt. However the fact that even this can be done opens to door to somebody (I wish I was smart enough) to devise a working translator between the two programs.

Heath McKnight · September 22nd, 2011, 09:52 AM

I think a lot of it has to do with how different and more sophisticated the timelines are between FCP 1-7 and FCP X. But I agree, someone will develop something, and it will work well. I kind of hope that Apple will do something like, "Classic Timeline," so we can open old projects in an FCP 7-like timeline.

heath

Nigel Barker · September 24th, 2011, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heath McKnight

For now, you can buy CatDV and import an XML from FCP 7, and it apparently will export an XML for FCP X.

What is CatDV?

heath

Quote:

Originally Posted by William Hohauser

I tried the CatDv demo to go from FCP7 to FCPX. Not a great experience, mostly useless for anything but the simplest single track edits.

Even if it worked CatDV Pro costs more than FCP X!

William Hohauser · September 24th, 2011, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nigel Barker

Even if it worked CatDV Pro costs more than FCP X!

Oh yes there's that small issue. I would gladly pay up to $100 for a method to update my ongoing FCP7 projects to X... but it would have to be close to flawless. If I have to go in an redo the edits, (titles and filters I understand would not make the transfers), then I rather rebuild from scratch.

Matt Lawrence · September 24th, 2011, 10:42 AM

One of the new features in 10.0.1 is the option to export with GPU acceleration by selecting "None" for the Background Rendering option when exporting. I just did a test of 4 minute clip (ProRes pre-rendered project to 720p H.264) and it took literally half the time as Background exporting (I'm using a Mac Pro 2008 with an Nvidia GTX285). Of course, you can't keep working while it's exporting but it's a nice option when you're in a hurry.

Tom Gresham · September 27th, 2011, 10:29 AM

When I select updates on the App Store, it showed Motion and Compressor, but not FCPX.

How do I update?

Heath McKnight · September 27th, 2011, 10:44 AM

Update those, quit the Mac App Store, then open it again. Weird, but it works.

heath

Ryan Douthit · September 27th, 2011, 11:19 AM

I had to trow FCP X into the trash and then re-install from the App store. Not as big of a deal as it sounds, though.

September 21st, 2011, 10:14 AM	#16
Bill Davis Trustee Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ 85260 Posts: 1,538	Re: New version of FCPX available Early in the update - like in the first hour - there were lots of "jump the gun" posts about incompatibility. These largely were retracted as people figured out how to navigate the upgrade. I've seen posts where someone said that "XML Import doesn't work" only to have them come back and admit that they just needed to close down and re-boot in order for the code to update. It's ALWAYS a good idea to back up your work in progress and to "Image" the state of your drives and system when you're installing new software. But it's also critical in these days of instant world wide blogging not to "harden" your own thinking and opinions based on something you read in the first blush of a new release. We're not in the world of journalism here. We're in the world of "I've got to get my opinions on the net FIRST!!!!!" And that's a world where factual mistakes are going to increase. Mom and dad were right. Patience and a bit of perspective often get far better results than "leap to the keyboard before you look around." For what it's worth. __________________ Classroom editing instructor? Check out www.starteditingnow.com Turnkey editor training content including licensed training footage for classroom use.

September 21st, 2011, 10:16 AM	#17
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Re: New version of FCPX available Bill, I think that was one of the problems when FCP X first came out -- the big outcry right off the bat. Many stayed at it, and admitted it was pretty cool. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

September 21st, 2011, 10:23 PM	#18
Marc S. Brown Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Jenkinsburg,GA. Posts: 39	Re: New version of FCPX available o.k. - a little off topic but you did bring it up - You're editing on Mac MINI???? Really?? How's that working out?? Best, Marc S. Brown P.S. - Thanks for your updates! Never Mind - I saw your reply to an earlier post. I'm still just kinda blown away by the idea though... Last edited by Marc S. Brown; September 21st, 2011 at 10:25 PM. Reason: Read Above Post....

September 22nd, 2011, 09:52 AM	#24
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Re: New version of FCPX available I think a lot of it has to do with how different and more sophisticated the timelines are between FCP 1-7 and FCP X. But I agree, someone will develop something, and it will work well. I kind of hope that Apple will do something like, "Classic Timeline," so we can open old projects in an FCP 7-like timeline. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

September 24th, 2011, 10:42 AM	#27
Matt Lawrence Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 69	Re: GPU Exporting in 10.0.1 One of the new features in 10.0.1 is the option to export with GPU acceleration by selecting "None" for the Background Rendering option when exporting. I just did a test of 4 minute clip (ProRes pre-rendered project to 720p H.264) and it took literally half the time as Background exporting (I'm using a Mac Pro 2008 with an Nvidia GTX285). Of course, you can't keep working while it's exporting but it's a nice option when you're in a hurry.

September 27th, 2011, 10:29 AM	#28
Tom Gresham Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Covington, Louisiana Posts: 179	Re: New version of FCPX available When I select updates on the App Store, it showed Motion and Compressor, but not FCPX. How do I update?

September 27th, 2011, 10:44 AM	#29
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Re: New version of FCPX available Update those, quit the Mac App Store, then open it again. Weird, but it works. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

September 27th, 2011, 11:19 AM	#30
Ryan Douthit Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 474	Re: New version of FCPX available I had to trow FCP X into the trash and then re-install from the App store. Not as big of a deal as it sounds, though.