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Music Video With 5D Mark II · July 28th, 2009, 01:42 AM

A no budget music video I made for a friend a few weeks ago

Solution - Yummy By Dana Rice On ExposureRoom

Richard Gooderick · July 28th, 2009, 04:17 AM

Sorry. I don't usually have a problem with flashing lights but I literally started feeling ill when watching this.

The photography looks good but I have a problem with the editing. The music sounded good too.

Anton Chernenko · July 28th, 2009, 04:45 AM

I like the music, but constant flashing kept me distracted

Buba Kastorski · July 28th, 2009, 07:20 AM

Sorry, couldn't watch the whole thing, it's, flashy

Jim Miller · July 28th, 2009, 08:58 AM

Powerful song and story. But I have to agree with others - tone down some of the flashing - I know gun flash energy but with the song so powerful I don't think you need as many flash shots. Just my two cents - loved it though.

Brian Boyko · July 28th, 2009, 10:00 AM

I think I almost had a seizure.

Matthew Roddy · July 28th, 2009, 10:23 AM

Agreed with above: good shooting, good performances, nice editing, powerful song, harsh editing. Too frenetic and difficult to watch (read, "flashing").
I wonder how the "younger generation" react to it, though; The 12-18 crowd.

Ali Jafri · July 28th, 2009, 11:26 AM

What's wrong with you lot? It wasn't as bad as you make it sound! I thought it was going to be like staring at a strobe light for 5 minutes, but it wasn't like that at all! I was surprised that none of the comments offered any advice or encouragement or positive criticism. Yes, the video is a little over the top, but surely it didn't deserve to be shot down like that.

Dana, I guess you do have to take everyone's opinion and learn by it. Personally, I thought it was well shot. Sure, there are problems, and I would like to offer you my opinion rather than discourage you completely.

The problem that I had the most was that it played more like an effects show reel rather than a music video. It seems like you used every effect you could lay your hands on and that simply overshadowed the song and its message. A good editor I think compliments the song and goes with its rhythm and feel which I think this video does not do. The music has a down tempo and a sombre story whereas the video is like a science fiction car chase on crack. The singer is totally overshadowed by the effects and the story of the song is lost.

Sure, you can make a fast-paced edit look super cool. In fact, all my favourite films and music videos are ones with quick edits and wild camera work. I love the end car chase in Bourne Ultimatum for instance although many have said its too fast and jerky.

As an editor I have also made super-fast edits for music videos myself. Here's the link to something similar I've done: Boundaries Broken on Vimeo

You can see that I've kept a uniform flash (static) and after a few views your eyes and brain adjusts to the flashes because you expect it. Your video had so much variety of flashes that the brain just isn't able to catch up.

Otherwise, good job, and I'm looking forward to seeing you next video. Remember, as a music video editor you become part of the band in their music video, follow the rhythm and the feel, follow the story and its message. You can darken a video of a sombre song and brighten a video of a happy song, its all in your hands. Play the edit like you're playing the song.

Cheers!

Matthew Roddy · July 28th, 2009, 01:16 PM

For the record:
Richard said, "The photography looks good..."
Anton said, "I like the music..."
Jim said, "Powerful song and story." & "loved it..."
Matthew said, "good shooting, good performances, nice editing, powerful song"

Not bad reviews, in my opinion. And the crits all pointed to one thing.
I think that's pretty constructive overall. Only a few comments that weren't directly helpful, and even those, well, you just have to read between the lines - but I agree, CONSTRUCTIVE crits are best.

Norman Lang · August 1st, 2009, 05:34 AM

Really liked the performance. Powerful song. Great visuals. The flashing thing could be reworked a little, but the strength of the images and the song make this the real deal. Very nice work.

Tom Daigon · August 1st, 2009, 06:53 AM

Nice job. Another editor here (30 years). I like the flash cuts,,,and what makes them work for me is they are broken up with "regular" shots. So the pacing seems to have a rhythm that works for me. Nice textures, too.!

July 28th, 2009, 04:17 AM	#2
Richard Gooderick Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: London, UK Posts: 795	Sorry. I don't usually have a problem with flashing lights but I literally started feeling ill when watching this. The photography looks good but I have a problem with the editing. The music sounded good too. __________________ http://www.gooderick.com

July 28th, 2009, 07:20 AM	#4
Buba Kastorski Trustee Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,414	Sorry, couldn't watch the whole thing, it's, flashy __________________ I love this place!

July 28th, 2009, 10:00 AM	#6
Brian Boyko Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 773	I think I almost had a seizure. __________________ Equip: Panny GH1, Canon HG20, Juicedlink, AT897, Sennh. EW/GW100, Zoom H2, Vegas 8.1

July 28th, 2009, 11:26 AM	#8
Ali Jafri Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Karachi, Pakistan Posts: 210	What's wrong with you lot? It wasn't as bad as you make it sound! I thought it was going to be like staring at a strobe light for 5 minutes, but it wasn't like that at all! I was surprised that none of the comments offered any advice or encouragement or positive criticism. Yes, the video is a little over the top, but surely it didn't deserve to be shot down like that. Dana, I guess you do have to take everyone's opinion and learn by it. Personally, I thought it was well shot. Sure, there are problems, and I would like to offer you my opinion rather than discourage you completely. The problem that I had the most was that it played more like an effects show reel rather than a music video. It seems like you used every effect you could lay your hands on and that simply overshadowed the song and its message. A good editor I think compliments the song and goes with its rhythm and feel which I think this video does not do. The music has a down tempo and a sombre story whereas the video is like a science fiction car chase on crack. The singer is totally overshadowed by the effects and the story of the song is lost. Sure, you can make a fast-paced edit look super cool. In fact, all my favourite films and music videos are ones with quick edits and wild camera work. I love the end car chase in Bourne Ultimatum for instance although many have said its too fast and jerky. As an editor I have also made super-fast edits for music videos myself. Here's the link to something similar I've done: Boundaries Broken on Vimeo You can see that I've kept a uniform flash (static) and after a few views your eyes and brain adjusts to the flashes because you expect it. Your video had so much variety of flashes that the brain just isn't able to catch up. Otherwise, good job, and I'm looking forward to seeing you next video. Remember, as a music video editor you become part of the band in their music video, follow the rhythm and the feel, follow the story and its message. You can darken a video of a sombre song and brighten a video of a happy song, its all in your hands. Play the edit like you're playing the song. Cheers! __________________ Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit // i7 2600K // 16GB RAM // ASUS P8P67 Board // NVIDIA GTX 470 Sony Vegas Pro 13 // Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2014 // http://vimeo.com/alijafri

August 1st, 2009, 05:34 AM	#10
Norman Lang Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 29	Big Potential Really liked the performance. Powerful song. Great visuals. The flashing thing could be reworked a little, but the strength of the images and the song make this the real deal. Very nice work.

July 28th, 2009, 04:45 AM	#3
Anton Chernenko New Boot Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 20	I like the music, but constant flashing kept me distracted

July 28th, 2009, 08:58 AM	#5
Jim Miller Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tampa,Florida Posts: 236	Powerful song and story. But I have to agree with others - tone down some of the flashing - I know gun flash energy but with the song so powerful I don't think you need as many flash shots. Just my two cents - loved it though.

July 28th, 2009, 10:23 AM	#7
Matthew Roddy Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Riverside, Ca Posts: 307	Agreed with above: good shooting, good performances, nice editing, powerful song, harsh editing. Too frenetic and difficult to watch (read, "flashing"). I wonder how the "younger generation" react to it, though; The 12-18 crowd.

July 28th, 2009, 01:16 PM	#9
Matthew Roddy Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Riverside, Ca Posts: 307	For the record: Richard said, "The photography looks good..." Anton said, "I like the music..." Jim said, "Powerful song and story." & "loved it..." Matthew said, "good shooting, good performances, nice editing, powerful song" Not bad reviews, in my opinion. And the crits all pointed to one thing. I think that's pretty constructive overall. Only a few comments that weren't directly helpful, and even those, well, you just have to read between the lines - but I agree, CONSTRUCTIVE crits are best.

August 1st, 2009, 06:53 AM	#11
Tom Daigon Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 170	Nice job. Another editor here (30 years). I like the flash cuts,,,and what makes them work for me is they are broken up with "regular" shots. So the pacing seems to have a rhythm that works for me. Nice textures, too.!