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Robert Young · October 2nd, 2006, 03:18 PM

To date, all of my projects have been delivered on 60i DVD. Shooting HDV has improved the final DVD image quality a "bit", but still kind of has that "DV look".
Sony's website implies that shooting HDV 24p, editing in true 24p, and transcoding to 24p DVD will give the absolute best image quality. Is this true???
Are there compatability problems with 24p DVDs being not playable on some set top DVD players?
What is the format of commercial film DVDs? 60i, 24p, 60i with pull down?
The HDV imagery is so awesome, there has got to be a way to get more of it to survive downconversion to DVD.
Thanks

Don Donatello · October 2nd, 2006, 08:38 PM

hollywood movies on DVD - most are 24p (usually on dual layer disc) ...
the DVD player adds the pull down so those with SD TV's can view and you get that 24fps with pull down viewing experience ..

most newer ( last 1-2 years) progressive HDTV's remove the added pull down so you get real 24p viewing ...

Alex Huppenthal · November 22nd, 2006, 11:35 PM

Robert,

I'm supposing the same thing. All HD video we've make into DVDs from 1080i looks okay, not steller. The best DVDs are from film. The reason is that film is 24p, and you have limited digital bandwidth on DVD's.

If we had a clean way to go from 60i to 24p in the NLE, *then* go to mpeg2 24p on the DVD, you might end up with a product that comes closer to film->DVD. :-)

I'm exploring that avenue now using FCP. 24p->DVD is the way to go. Let the DVD player add the pulldown. You effectively increase rate of data delivered to the screen. thank the player.

October 2nd, 2006, 03:18 PM	#1
Robert Young Trustee Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Coronado Island Posts: 1,472	24p to DVD To date, all of my projects have been delivered on 60i DVD. Shooting HDV has improved the final DVD image quality a "bit", but still kind of has that "DV look". Sony's website implies that shooting HDV 24p, editing in true 24p, and transcoding to 24p DVD will give the absolute best image quality. Is this true??? Are there compatability problems with 24p DVDs being not playable on some set top DVD players? What is the format of commercial film DVDs? 60i, 24p, 60i with pull down? The HDV imagery is so awesome, there has got to be a way to get more of it to survive downconversion to DVD. Thanks

October 2nd, 2006, 08:38 PM	#2
Don Donatello Hawaiian Shirt Mogul Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: northern cailfornia Posts: 1,261	hollywood movies on DVD - most are 24p (usually on dual layer disc) ... the DVD player adds the pull down so those with SD TV's can view and you get that 24fps with pull down viewing experience .. most newer ( last 1-2 years) progressive HDTV's remove the added pull down so you get real 24p viewing ...

November 22nd, 2006, 11:35 PM	#3
Alex Huppenthal Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Aspen, Colorado Posts: 30	Robert, I'm supposing the same thing. All HD video we've make into DVDs from 1080i looks okay, not steller. The best DVDs are from film. The reason is that film is 24p, and you have limited digital bandwidth on DVD's. If we had a clean way to go from 60i to 24p in the NLE, then go to mpeg2 24p on the DVD, you might end up with a product that comes closer to film->DVD. :-) I'm exploring that avenue now using FCP. 24p->DVD is the way to go. Let the DVD player add the pulldown. You effectively increase rate of data delivered to the screen. thank the player.