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David J. Payne · January 30th, 2006, 12:23 PM

Hi,
Whenever I edit in premiere and export as the highest resolution file format, usually an AVi and then convert to DVD I always lose quality in the conversion to mpeg. What is the best way to go from Premiere 6.5 to DVD losing the smallest amount possible? I use nerovision express to convert from avi to a video_ts dvd folder.

Also is there anyway to export in premiere at a higher reolution than 768x576?

Thanks in advance for helping out a noob once again!

Wes Coughlin · January 30th, 2006, 04:05 PM

To get better quality DVD's, use a professional DVD authorization program. In there you will be abe to export your AVI files to mpeg2, and control all the quality settings. Im not sure about premiere 6.5, but premiere pro allows you to export your own mpeg2 files straight from the timeline, and has nice bitrate and quality controls. Or you can upgrade to premiere pro, and do simple export to DVD's straight from the timeline. All conversions to DVD will lose quality, as it highley compresses the video--and all SD video should be in 720x480.

Chris Barcellos · January 30th, 2006, 05:11 PM

While I haven't used it in a while, my recollection of the Nero Programs is that it will recompress what you are trying to put on a DVD to fit it there. A 4.7 gig DVD should only hold about an hour of video from DV for best quality. Any more, and the program is likely compressing it more than you want to.

I agree with Wes's assessment of the problem.

Emre Safak · January 30th, 2006, 05:16 PM

The resolution of DVDs is fixed, by specification. You need to move up to HD.

Ed Smith · January 31st, 2006, 03:27 AM

Please bear in mind that for PAL SD dvd is 720x576, NTSC SD is 720x480.

Cheers,

David J. Payne · February 3rd, 2006, 01:35 AM

thanks for your help guys. i will look into premiere and see if i can export to mpeg2 because up to now I only thought it was possible to extract to .avi.

Gareth Watkins · February 3rd, 2006, 01:53 AM

Hi David

I find the Mainconcept Encoder with Premiere Pro does a pretty good job.
You can define your bitrates, number of passes... quality etc...

Otherwise unless you want to start getting the higher end encoders like Procoder etc.. check out TMPGEnc is pretty nice:
http://www.pegasys-inc.com/en/download/te3xp.html

I find DVD lab Pro or Adobe Encore nice programmes to use for authoring a DVD after you encode.... as the previous poster pointed out some of the cheaper DVD authoring tools Ulead or Nero can re-encode as they burn the disk.

Regards
Gareth

David J. Payne · February 5th, 2006, 05:22 PM

yeah ive used tmpgenc before, normally use nerovision express but i just wondered if it sigificantly reduced the quality of the file that was exported from premiere

Dionyssios Chalkias · February 7th, 2006, 07:30 AM

There's not such thing as lossless MPEG2 encoding.

I've already used Nerovision Express for fast tape to DVD encoding and burning and it is not that bad. What settings do you use?

Be sure to choose PAL or NTSC according to your cam's system.

Then Quality setting: High quality
and Encoding mode: High quality 2-pass VBR.

January 30th, 2006, 12:23 PM	#1
David J. Payne Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Southend-On-Sea, England Posts: 368	Premiere to DVD with lossless quality Hi, Whenever I edit in premiere and export as the highest resolution file format, usually an AVi and then convert to DVD I always lose quality in the conversion to mpeg. What is the best way to go from Premiere 6.5 to DVD losing the smallest amount possible? I use nerovision express to convert from avi to a video_ts dvd folder. Also is there anyway to export in premiere at a higher reolution than 768x576? Thanks in advance for helping out a noob once again!

January 30th, 2006, 04:05 PM	#2
Wes Coughlin Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bend, Oregon Posts: 206	To get better quality DVD's, use a professional DVD authorization program. In there you will be abe to export your AVI files to mpeg2, and control all the quality settings. Im not sure about premiere 6.5, but premiere pro allows you to export your own mpeg2 files straight from the timeline, and has nice bitrate and quality controls. Or you can upgrade to premiere pro, and do simple export to DVD's straight from the timeline. All conversions to DVD will lose quality, as it highley compresses the video--and all SD video should be in 720x480. __________________ http://wildlookout.com

January 30th, 2006, 05:11 PM	#3
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Is Nero Compressing further While I haven't used it in a while, my recollection of the Nero Programs is that it will recompress what you are trying to put on a DVD to fit it there. A 4.7 gig DVD should only hold about an hour of video from DV for best quality. Any more, and the program is likely compressing it more than you want to. I agree with Wes's assessment of the problem. __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

January 31st, 2006, 03:27 AM	#5
Ed Smith Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 1,545	Please bear in mind that for PAL SD dvd is 720x576, NTSC SD is 720x480. Cheers, __________________ Ed Smith Hampshire, UK Good things come to those who wait My Skiing web www.Frostytour.co.uk For quick answers Search dvinfo.net \| The best in the business: dvinfo.net Sponsors

January 30th, 2006, 05:16 PM	#4
Emre Safak Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 1,447	The resolution of DVDs is fixed, by specification. You need to move up to HD.

February 3rd, 2006, 01:35 AM	#6
David J. Payne Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Southend-On-Sea, England Posts: 368	thanks for your help guys. i will look into premiere and see if i can export to mpeg2 because up to now I only thought it was possible to extract to .avi.

February 3rd, 2006, 01:53 AM	#7
Gareth Watkins Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: France Posts: 578	Hi David I find the Mainconcept Encoder with Premiere Pro does a pretty good job. You can define your bitrates, number of passes... quality etc... Otherwise unless you want to start getting the higher end encoders like Procoder etc.. check out TMPGEnc is pretty nice: http://www.pegasys-inc.com/en/download/te3xp.html I find DVD lab Pro or Adobe Encore nice programmes to use for authoring a DVD after you encode.... as the previous poster pointed out some of the cheaper DVD authoring tools Ulead or Nero can re-encode as they burn the disk. Regards Gareth

February 5th, 2006, 05:22 PM	#8
David J. Payne Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Southend-On-Sea, England Posts: 368	yeah ive used tmpgenc before, normally use nerovision express but i just wondered if it sigificantly reduced the quality of the file that was exported from premiere

February 7th, 2006, 07:30 AM	#9
Dionyssios Chalkias Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 64	There's not such thing as lossless MPEG2 encoding. I've already used Nerovision Express for fast tape to DVD encoding and burning and it is not that bad. What settings do you use? Be sure to choose PAL or NTSC according to your cam's system. Then Quality setting: High quality and Encoding mode: High quality 2-pass VBR.