Adobe Encore -- various topics

Matt DeJonge · May 4th, 2006, 05:10 PM

Well, I've tried some other ideas. I tried to just transcode the file, without adding it into a timeline (create a new project and imported the AVI, then transcoded). I also turned on the logging. There are no errors in the log files, but it just outright stops at 5200 frames or thereabouts. It then does a second pass (2-pass VBR) and then 2nd pass goes up to about 5000 frames, and then the transcoding "completes". No errors tho.

Are there known problems with Encore 2.0 handling HuffYUV files? Could my AVI file have some sort of corruption in it?

Matt DeJonge · May 8th, 2006, 03:19 PM

I finally figured out that it was a problem with my file.

James Adams · July 15th, 2006, 09:12 PM

I'm hoping someone out there knows how to fix this problem.

I was seeing interlacing artifacts in between clips so I thought it might be because of the way it was transcoded, but I tried many different combos of the transcoding and tried upper, lower and progressive for the fields. I'm also having issues with the dvd stopping to load on certain chapters for a second.

I am using Premiere 2.0, Encore 2.0, a hp zd7000 laptop, and I tired maxell DVD+R, fujifilm DVD+R and RW, and a Memorex DVD+RW

The footage is a mixture of 24p and 60i which both are getting these artifacts or lines.

So..what is going to fix this?

Thank you!

James

James Adams · July 19th, 2006, 02:42 PM

So nobody has any ideas?

I've been trying to solve this problem for a long time and I'm not having any luck, I know someone out there will have some answers...

James

Michael Hendrix · July 19th, 2006, 03:31 PM

James, what file are you importing into Encore? I always do my transcoding before I get to Encore and the program seems to be happier. You may want to try using After Effects to de-interlace before you go to Encore.

Steve Siegel · July 19th, 2006, 06:39 PM

James,
You need to deinterlace before you import into Encore. I used to have the same problem. You shouldn't have the artifact with the 24p footage, though. What do you mean "between clips". Interlace artifacts are visible during the clip. As far as the delay between chapters, I think that's just the way Encore works. I haven't found a solution, and it prevents you from continuing an audio track from one chapter into the next. If you figure a way around it, please post it.

Christopher Lefchik · July 19th, 2006, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Siegel

James,As far as the delay between chapters, I think that's just the way Encore works. I haven't found a solution, and it prevents you from continuing an audio track from one chapter into the next. If you figure a way around it, please post it.

I'm not sure that a delay between chapters can be blamed on Encore DVD. My previous set top DVD player seemed to have a habit of pausing for a second when switching tracks and/or chapters. My new DVD player does not share the same habit.

James Adams · July 20th, 2006, 12:18 PM

Thanks for your help!

I just exported a standard avi. file from premiere.

I did deinterlace all of my movie in premiere, except for anything that I had slowed down. I don't have after effects either.

When I say "In between" clips I mean that in between one shot to another you can see like weird horizontal lines for a split second. My daughter noticed those lines when I played it back on our tv. So I can't have that.

Its also unacceptable to have the DVD stop for a moment to reload. Do you think that may be because the rate is too high?

Does anyone have any recommendations for a different DVD tool if I can't fix all of these issues?

I appreciate your help,

James

Nick Vaughan · August 17th, 2006, 07:00 PM

Can anyone recommend some reading material for this prog? I find myself wanting to embrace it but not knowing how. Damn the learning curve! Damn it!

Thanks in advance!

Pete Bauer · August 17th, 2006, 07:52 PM

I'm not personally able to recommend any specific book. However, Adobe has quite a few clips from Total Training and a number of PDF tutorials available for free on their web site, so that might be a good place to get a jump start:

http://www.adobe.com/designcenter/tutorials/

Ervin Farkas · August 18th, 2006, 01:09 PM

Wrigley Video has some excellent and very short video tutorials to get you started - check out http://www.wrigleyvideo.com/videotut...tut_encore.htm

Nate Schmidt · August 18th, 2006, 06:44 PM

25 bucks a month no minimum buy and you can watch all the videos you want. Encore, After Effects, Premiere.......

David Lach · August 20th, 2006, 01:16 PM

I have a 40sec video I want to use as a video menu in Encore 2.0. The menu also has music, a song that lasts 5min. So I want the video to loop until the music ends, but if I have to make a 5min. video file it's going to be way too big. Any way to set the video and audio loop points independently?

What If I want the music to keep playing (not start over) when you click on a button and change menu (go to a chapter menu for example)?

Martin Pauly · August 20th, 2006, 02:08 PM

The audio and the video in DVD menus are somewhat coupled, so things such as loop points or jumping to a new asset (due to a menu change) always affects both. This is not a limitation of the authoring software, but rather the DVD specification.

Not knowing Encore myself, here is what I would do to solve your particular problem: use Premiere (or whatever your editing software is), put the music on an audio track, and copy a sufficient number of copies of the 40-sec video clip to the video track. In other words, do the looping of the video manually to end up with a five minute clip for both audio and video. Then use that clip as the background for your DVD menu.

It's possible that Encore can do this for you in an automated way - like I said, I don't know Encore.

- Martin

David Lach · August 20th, 2006, 02:22 PM

Thanks Martin. Thing is, if I loop the video file in premiere and import that, it will create a huge file and I'm afraid it could be too big. But I'll give it a try, maybe when compressed to MPEG2 it won't be that bad. I think I'll cut the song in half, it was created with Sonic Fire Pro anyway so I can have it at any length.

Also, I could swear I saw some commercial DVDs that had navigating chapter menus and the music would not stop each time you changed a page (say going from chap. 1-4 to chap. 5-8, etc.). It would be pretty weird having the music restart every time you switch page in the chapter submenu.

July 15th, 2006, 09:12 PM	#123
James Adams Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: san fransisco, CA Posts: 34	Adobe Encore I've Tried Everything :( I Think I'm hoping someone out there knows how to fix this problem. I was seeing interlacing artifacts in between clips so I thought it might be because of the way it was transcoded, but I tried many different combos of the transcoding and tried upper, lower and progressive for the fields. I'm also having issues with the dvd stopping to load on certain chapters for a second. I am using Premiere 2.0, Encore 2.0, a hp zd7000 laptop, and I tired maxell DVD+R, fujifilm DVD+R and RW, and a Memorex DVD+RW The footage is a mixture of 24p and 60i which both are getting these artifacts or lines. So..what is going to fix this? Thank you! James

August 17th, 2006, 07:00 PM	#129
Nick Vaughan Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 141	Encore DVD 2.0 Can anyone recommend some reading material for this prog? I find myself wanting to embrace it but not knowing how. Damn the learning curve! Damn it! Thanks in advance!

August 17th, 2006, 07:52 PM	#130
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	I'm not personally able to recommend any specific book. However, Adobe has quite a few clips from Total Training and a number of PDF tutorials available for free on their web site, so that might be a good place to get a jump start: http://www.adobe.com/designcenter/tutorials/ __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

August 18th, 2006, 01:09 PM	#131
Ervin Farkas Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta/USA Posts: 2,515	Wrigley Video Wrigley Video has some excellent and very short video tutorials to get you started - check out http://www.wrigleyvideo.com/videotut...tut_encore.htm __________________ Ervin Farkas www.AtlantaLegalVideo.com

August 18th, 2006, 06:44 PM	#132
Nate Schmidt Major Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Welland ON Posts: 515	lynda.com 25 bucks a month no minimum buy and you can watch all the videos you want. Encore, After Effects, Premiere....... __________________ "We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty."

May 4th, 2006, 05:10 PM	#121
Matt DeJonge Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 37	Well, I've tried some other ideas. I tried to just transcode the file, without adding it into a timeline (create a new project and imported the AVI, then transcoded). I also turned on the logging. There are no errors in the log files, but it just outright stops at 5200 frames or thereabouts. It then does a second pass (2-pass VBR) and then 2nd pass goes up to about 5000 frames, and then the transcoding "completes". No errors tho. Are there known problems with Encore 2.0 handling HuffYUV files? Could my AVI file have some sort of corruption in it?

May 8th, 2006, 03:19 PM	#122
Matt DeJonge Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 37	I finally figured out that it was a problem with my file.

July 19th, 2006, 02:42 PM	#124
James Adams Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: san fransisco, CA Posts: 34	So nobody has any ideas? I've been trying to solve this problem for a long time and I'm not having any luck, I know someone out there will have some answers... James

July 19th, 2006, 03:31 PM	#125
Michael Hendrix Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 69	James, what file are you importing into Encore? I always do my transcoding before I get to Encore and the program seems to be happier. You may want to try using After Effects to de-interlace before you go to Encore.

July 19th, 2006, 06:39 PM	#126
Steve Siegel Major Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA Posts: 840	James, You need to deinterlace before you import into Encore. I used to have the same problem. You shouldn't have the artifact with the 24p footage, though. What do you mean "between clips". Interlace artifacts are visible during the clip. As far as the delay between chapters, I think that's just the way Encore works. I haven't found a solution, and it prevents you from continuing an audio track from one chapter into the next. If you figure a way around it, please post it.

July 20th, 2006, 12:18 PM	#128
James Adams Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: san fransisco, CA Posts: 34	Thanks for your help! I just exported a standard avi. file from premiere. I did deinterlace all of my movie in premiere, except for anything that I had slowed down. I don't have after effects either. When I say "In between" clips I mean that in between one shot to another you can see like weird horizontal lines for a split second. My daughter noticed those lines when I played it back on our tv. So I can't have that. Its also unacceptable to have the DVD stop for a moment to reload. Do you think that may be because the rate is too high? Does anyone have any recommendations for a different DVD tool if I can't fix all of these issues? I appreciate your help, James

August 20th, 2006, 01:16 PM	#133
David Lach Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, QC, Canada Posts: 570	Encore 2.0: How do you loop motion menus without looping the music? I have a 40sec video I want to use as a video menu in Encore 2.0. The menu also has music, a song that lasts 5min. So I want the video to loop until the music ends, but if I have to make a 5min. video file it's going to be way too big. Any way to set the video and audio loop points independently? What If I want the music to keep playing (not start over) when you click on a button and change menu (go to a chapter menu for example)?

August 20th, 2006, 02:08 PM	#134
Martin Pauly Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA Posts: 563	The audio and the video in DVD menus are somewhat coupled, so things such as loop points or jumping to a new asset (due to a menu change) always affects both. This is not a limitation of the authoring software, but rather the DVD specification. Not knowing Encore myself, here is what I would do to solve your particular problem: use Premiere (or whatever your editing software is), put the music on an audio track, and copy a sufficient number of copies of the 40-sec video clip to the video track. In other words, do the looping of the video manually to end up with a five minute clip for both audio and video. Then use that clip as the background for your DVD menu. It's possible that Encore can do this for you in an automated way - like I said, I don't know Encore. - Martin

August 20th, 2006, 02:22 PM	#135
David Lach Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, QC, Canada Posts: 570	Thanks Martin. Thing is, if I loop the video file in premiere and import that, it will create a huge file and I'm afraid it could be too big. But I'll give it a try, maybe when compressed to MPEG2 it won't be that bad. I think I'll cut the song in half, it was created with Sonic Fire Pro anyway so I can have it at any length. Also, I could swear I saw some commercial DVDs that had navigating chapter menus and the music would not stop each time you changed a page (say going from chap. 1-4 to chap. 5-8, etc.). It would be pretty weird having the music restart every time you switch page in the chapter submenu.