Adobe Encore -- various topics

Jonathan Schwartz · October 2nd, 2008, 11:06 AM

JJ,

Unfortunately, it looks like all of DVDSP templates and transitions are formatted for DVDSP only. But here is an idea. Make a 10 second movie. Go into DVDSP and set your menu and transition. Make sure there are no text or buttons. (I think the problem you had before is that there was not a movie in track 1). You can now take this DVD and play into your camera or deck or use a program to strip the footage from the DVD. Good luck.

Jon Schwartz
CA Video Productions

J.J. Kim · October 2nd, 2008, 11:09 AM

ah~ that's pretty good idea... I will try to explain to the studio coordinator there (since I am not going there for a while) to do that.. hope she understands what I am trying to do...
Thank you for your help, Jon!

JJ

Anthony Milic · October 8th, 2008, 08:01 AM

Hello all.
First time, trial and error user, who has just had a deadline announced and needs help!
Probably a real simple sollution, but as yet I'm stuck.

To simplify;
I have my feature's video clip (1.M2V)
I have my feature's seperate audio clip (1.WAV)
and I have my commentary audio clip. (2.WAV)

I have menu/button for 1.M2V & 1.WAV
I have menu/button for 2.WAV

So far I've imported assets; 1.M2V & 1.WAV and just dragged them to my 'Play Feature' button.
and I've imported and linked 1.M2V & 2.WAV via timeline to its menu button.
This process duplicates the 1.M2V file on disc, which is TOO LARGE.

How do I link both WAV files to the single 1.M2V file??
So simple I'm sure.. but I haven't stumbled my way there yet, and time is running out.

Thanks in advance,

Anthony

Bart Walczak · October 8th, 2008, 09:16 AM

Create new timeline, put your video file on the video track, put both your audio files on audio track.

Anthony Milic · October 8th, 2008, 06:38 PM

Thanks Bart for your suggestion.

I did try doing that before, so on my timeline I've got 'Video', and 'Audio 1' & 'Audio 2'.
Problem is I don't know how to tell Encore to link 'Video' and 'Audio 1' to one menu/button, and 'Video' & 'Audio 2' to the other menu/button. - without duplicating 'Video 1' on the DVD (which uses up all disc space)

Please help?

Many thanks.

Anthony

... OK I think I have it. Specify link for relevant button, select desired audio timeline option on audio drop down box. - Seems to have associated the files without carrying across a secondary video file. fingers crossed.. I'm getting thre..

Russell Pearce · November 4th, 2008, 04:31 PM

Hi all, started my first proper menu and chaptered DVD in encore and running into a few issues:

The assets are imported fine, created main menu and chapter menu, inserted chapter points and linked chapter menu to chapter points on timeline.

When I preveiw the DVD it seems fine the problems arise when I try to set end actions.

I have a play all button but when I try to link to chapter 1 to 2 and 3 to 4 its not working properly,
I select 1 to go to 2 but when I select 2 to goto 3, 1 goes to 3 instead and so on

does each chapter have to be in it's own timeline? that's how it seems

thanks for your help

Russ

Tripp Woelfel · November 4th, 2008, 06:07 PM

First, did you run a "check project"? If you did and it comes up clean I have two thoughts. First, and I think this most likely, your menu links are simply pointing to the wrong point in your project. The most common cause (at least for me) is that I've linked the menu to the wrong chapter mark. I have done this more than once. Encore lets you make the links several ways. I find using the pickwhips for anything but connecting menus complete rubbish. In the flowchart view, I'll right click on the menu item I want to link and select "Specify Link". From there you select the timeline you want and the appropriate chapter mark within it.

Secondly. Do you specify thumbnails for your chapter marks? If so, is it possible you dragged the thumbnail mark rather than the chapter mark? I've done that too.

Please remember that the first chapter mark is always set at the beginning of each timeline. If you don't link a menu item to the very introduction of your piece, your count might be off. In most projects I do, the only link to the first chapter mark is the "Play Movie" link on the main menu.

Russell Pearce · November 4th, 2008, 06:41 PM

Hi Tripp,
cheers for your reply
I have checked the project and the only problems that appear are next and previous > link not set,

Ive now set them to link back to main menu

I'm burning the project now but I'm pretty sure the "play all" is only going to play my first chapter I cant see how it's going to play all my chapters in one go

fingers crossed, it's a bit confusing at first but your input helped

cheers Russ

Russell Pearce · November 4th, 2008, 06:58 PM

Tripp, you da man!

seems to play through ok from play all, for some reason I thought I'd have to tell it what to do when it got to the end of first chapter,
your explanation made me view the process in a bit diffrently and all seemed to fall into place then,

thanks for your help

Russ

Tripp Woelfel · November 4th, 2008, 09:03 PM

Glad I could help Russ. When I first started working with Encore I found it completely counter-intuitive since it didn't work like other Adobe products. I think the core of Encore is OEM'd from Sonic, or was at some point. So the ergonomics weren't home grown.

Half a year ago I was right where you are now... wanting to head to the pub for a pint of bitter... but I've done over 20 DVDs since then and it get's easier. I now actually look forward to that part of the workflow. Not only does it mean that I'm almost done, but I get to play with graphics, which is fun for me.

Brannon Bates · November 9th, 2008, 05:16 PM

Hi, I just installed updates for cs3 and it fried my suite. When i try to export to Encore from premiere i get an error saying "Preset not found" / "error loading default preset" , and when i try to open Encore on its own i get a runtime error and it wont open at all. Anybody know what the problem could be or another way to burn my footage to DVD **(FREE)**?

Tripp Woelfel · November 9th, 2008, 06:08 PM

Not sure I know what **(FREE)** means.

You might want to drill down into your hard drive to find out what's happening with your preset files. Check to see that the one you're using is where it should be. The path is something like Program Files/Adobe.../Encore (or Media Encoder). I don't know exactly since I'm not on a machine with CS3 installed. You should be able to find them pretty easily.

If your preset(s) went pear shaped, you can copy replacements in, if you have them backed up somewhere. I don't, but probably should.

If not, the best thing to do would be to uninstall/reinstall the product(s). I don't know if the presets belong to Premier, Encore or the Media Encoder. You could try them one at a time or maybe save some time and effort by doing them all in one whack.

Brannon Bates · November 9th, 2008, 07:31 PM

Thank you SO much for taking the time to reply. I found the presets folder under C/program files/adobe/encore/presets then opened it and stared at it. lol No idea what it should or shouldnt look like.

Tripp Woelfel · November 10th, 2008, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brannon Bates

I found the presets folder under C/program files/adobe/encore/presets then opened it and stared at it. lol No idea what it should or shouldnt look like.

Well... it should have presets in it. (grin) What you see on the disk should correspond to the transcode settings you get in the media encoder. It's a 1-to-1 relationship.

You probably should uninstall/reinstall the products. Yes, it will take some time, but I think it's the lowest stress path to recovery for you.

Michael McQueen · December 21st, 2008, 02:09 PM

i've been a dvdsp user since version 1. but i just started trying to grasp encore for bluray purposes. its been somewhat of a headache.

for starters, should i be able to setup a project thats bluray, 720p and 29.97? or should it be set to 59.94? my video source is 720 30p.

next up on my annoyance list: the menu is 720x480 when i create it. i can't find anyway within encore to change it to 720p. so i open up the menu in photoshop and then change it there.

i've got my buttons created but i still get a bit of a haze outline during the activated state that shows the non activated state.

then when i preview it, it plays really crappy. i'm not sure if thats because i'm on a macbook pro 2.16.

i'm thinking i'm just going to burn a tester on a bd-re and see how it looks....

and pointers would be very helpful and greatly appreciated.

October 2nd, 2008, 11:06 AM	#271
Jonathan Schwartz Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ocean Springs, MS Posts: 211	DVDSP Help JJ, Unfortunately, it looks like all of DVDSP templates and transitions are formatted for DVDSP only. But here is an idea. Make a 10 second movie. Go into DVDSP and set your menu and transition. Make sure there are no text or buttons. (I think the problem you had before is that there was not a movie in track 1). You can now take this DVD and play into your camera or deck or use a program to strip the footage from the DVD. Good luck. Jon Schwartz CA Video Productions

October 8th, 2008, 08:01 AM	#273
Anthony Milic Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 103	Encore DVD2 first time panic! - commentary. Hello all. First time, trial and error user, who has just had a deadline announced and needs help! Probably a real simple sollution, but as yet I'm stuck. To simplify; I have my feature's video clip (1.M2V) I have my feature's seperate audio clip (1.WAV) and I have my commentary audio clip. (2.WAV) I have menu/button for 1.M2V & 1.WAV I have menu/button for 2.WAV So far I've imported assets; 1.M2V & 1.WAV and just dragged them to my 'Play Feature' button. and I've imported and linked 1.M2V & 2.WAV via timeline to its menu button. This process duplicates the 1.M2V file on disc, which is TOO LARGE. How do I link both WAV files to the single 1.M2V file?? So simple I'm sure.. but I haven't stumbled my way there yet, and time is running out. Thanks in advance, Anthony

October 8th, 2008, 06:38 PM	#275
Anthony Milic Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 103	Thanks Bart for your suggestion. I did try doing that before, so on my timeline I've got 'Video', and 'Audio 1' & 'Audio 2'. Problem is I don't know how to tell Encore to link 'Video' and 'Audio 1' to one menu/button, and 'Video' & 'Audio 2' to the other menu/button. - without duplicating 'Video 1' on the DVD (which uses up all disc space) Please help? Many thanks. Anthony ... OK I think I have it. Specify link for relevant button, select desired audio timeline option on audio drop down box. - Seems to have associated the files without carrying across a secondary video file. fingers crossed.. I'm getting thre.. Last edited by Anthony Milic; October 8th, 2008 at 07:05 PM. Reason: update

November 4th, 2008, 04:31 PM	#276
Russell Pearce Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Birmingham England Posts: 69 Images: 1	Encore CS3 Navigation design Hi all, started my first proper menu and chaptered DVD in encore and running into a few issues: The assets are imported fine, created main menu and chapter menu, inserted chapter points and linked chapter menu to chapter points on timeline. When I preveiw the DVD it seems fine the problems arise when I try to set end actions. I have a play all button but when I try to link to chapter 1 to 2 and 3 to 4 its not working properly, I select 1 to go to 2 but when I select 2 to goto 3, 1 goes to 3 instead and so on does each chapter have to be in it's own timeline? that's how it seems thanks for your help Russ

November 9th, 2008, 05:16 PM	#281
Brannon Bates Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 27	CS3 Encore / Premiere problems Hi, I just installed updates for cs3 and it fried my suite. When i try to export to Encore from premiere i get an error saying "Preset not found" / "error loading default preset" , and when i try to open Encore on its own i get a runtime error and it wont open at all. Anybody know what the problem could be or another way to burn my footage to DVD (FREE)?

October 2nd, 2008, 11:09 AM	#272
J.J. Kim Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Wheeling, IL Posts: 270	ah~ that's pretty good idea... I will try to explain to the studio coordinator there (since I am not going there for a while) to do that.. hope she understands what I am trying to do... Thank you for your help, Jon! JJ

October 8th, 2008, 09:16 AM	#274
Bart Walczak Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Warsaw/Poland Posts: 716	Create new timeline, put your video file on the video track, put both your audio files on audio track.

November 4th, 2008, 06:07 PM	#277
Tripp Woelfel Trustee Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: North Conway, NH Posts: 1,745	First, did you run a "check project"? If you did and it comes up clean I have two thoughts. First, and I think this most likely, your menu links are simply pointing to the wrong point in your project. The most common cause (at least for me) is that I've linked the menu to the wrong chapter mark. I have done this more than once. Encore lets you make the links several ways. I find using the pickwhips for anything but connecting menus complete rubbish. In the flowchart view, I'll right click on the menu item I want to link and select "Specify Link". From there you select the timeline you want and the appropriate chapter mark within it. Secondly. Do you specify thumbnails for your chapter marks? If so, is it possible you dragged the thumbnail mark rather than the chapter mark? I've done that too. Please remember that the first chapter mark is always set at the beginning of each timeline. If you don't link a menu item to the very introduction of your piece, your count might be off. In most projects I do, the only link to the first chapter mark is the "Play Movie" link on the main menu.

November 4th, 2008, 06:41 PM	#278
Russell Pearce Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Birmingham England Posts: 69 Images: 1	Hi Tripp, cheers for your reply I have checked the project and the only problems that appear are next and previous > link not set, Ive now set them to link back to main menu I'm burning the project now but I'm pretty sure the "play all" is only going to play my first chapter I cant see how it's going to play all my chapters in one go fingers crossed, it's a bit confusing at first but your input helped cheers Russ

November 4th, 2008, 06:58 PM	#279
Russell Pearce Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Birmingham England Posts: 69 Images: 1	Tripp, you da man! seems to play through ok from play all, for some reason I thought I'd have to tell it what to do when it got to the end of first chapter, your explanation made me view the process in a bit diffrently and all seemed to fall into place then, thanks for your help Russ

November 4th, 2008, 09:03 PM	#280
Tripp Woelfel Trustee Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: North Conway, NH Posts: 1,745	Glad I could help Russ. When I first started working with Encore I found it completely counter-intuitive since it didn't work like other Adobe products. I think the core of Encore is OEM'd from Sonic, or was at some point. So the ergonomics weren't home grown. Half a year ago I was right where you are now... wanting to head to the pub for a pint of bitter... but I've done over 20 DVDs since then and it get's easier. I now actually look forward to that part of the workflow. Not only does it mean that I'm almost done, but I get to play with graphics, which is fun for me.

November 9th, 2008, 06:08 PM	#282
Tripp Woelfel Trustee Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: North Conway, NH Posts: 1,745	Not sure I know what (FREE) means. You might want to drill down into your hard drive to find out what's happening with your preset files. Check to see that the one you're using is where it should be. The path is something like Program Files/Adobe.../Encore (or Media Encoder). I don't know exactly since I'm not on a machine with CS3 installed. You should be able to find them pretty easily. If your preset(s) went pear shaped, you can copy replacements in, if you have them backed up somewhere. I don't, but probably should. If not, the best thing to do would be to uninstall/reinstall the product(s). I don't know if the presets belong to Premier, Encore or the Media Encoder. You could try them one at a time or maybe save some time and effort by doing them all in one whack.

November 9th, 2008, 07:31 PM	#283
Brannon Bates Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 27	Thank you SO much for taking the time to reply. I found the presets folder under C/program files/adobe/encore/presets then opened it and stared at it. lol No idea what it should or shouldnt look like.

December 21st, 2008, 02:09 PM	#285
Michael McQueen Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 41	trying to learn encore? i've been a dvdsp user since version 1. but i just started trying to grasp encore for bluray purposes. its been somewhat of a headache. for starters, should i be able to setup a project thats bluray, 720p and 29.97? or should it be set to 59.94? my video source is 720 30p. next up on my annoyance list: the menu is 720x480 when i create it. i can't find anyway within encore to change it to 720p. so i open up the menu in photoshop and then change it there. i've got my buttons created but i still get a bit of a haze outline during the activated state that shows the non activated state. then when i preview it, it plays really crappy. i'm not sure if thats because i'm on a macbook pro 2.16. i'm thinking i'm just going to burn a tester on a bd-re and see how it looks.... and pointers would be very helpful and greatly appreciated.