DVD Architect and 24p question at DVinfo.net

Dan Measel · May 23rd, 2005, 10:14 PM

Does anyone know if it's possible to put a 24fps video and 29fps video on the same DVD in Architect? For example if your company logo clip was 24fps and the actual video made was 29fps.

Dan Euritt · May 24th, 2005, 11:46 AM

i forget what the name is for the situation you are describing, but it's not possible with a lot of the cheaper dvd authoring software that's been on the market.

dvdlab pro will do it, tho, check it out at www.mediachance.com

Bennis Hahn · May 24th, 2005, 04:08 PM

Don't quote me on this, bit I think it is possible. When you want to compress clips before burning the DVD, it gives you the option of 24 or 30 fps. I believe you can encode each file separately and it doesn't matter is they are combined on the DVD. I have not tried this, however, so you may want to do a test of some sort.

I also do not know how DVDA handles already compressed files from Vegas encoded at different frame rates.

Patrick King · May 24th, 2005, 04:25 PM

Dan Euritt, While you may be correct that many low-end DVD programs like DVDLab might do this, Mr. Measel was inquiring about the capabilities of Sony's DVD Architect product (presumably because he already owns it).

Dan Measel, The section in the manual (pg26) that discusses this does not provide definitive guidance that DVDA can or cannot do this. It indicates that both NTSC video stream template or the 24p NTSC video stream template may be used to prepare the video streams for DVDA. It does not indicate that they can or cannot be mixed on a project.

Later on page 155, the description of one of the General Tab check boxes would lead you to believe mixing the two types is possible. By clearing the "Allow pulldown removal when opening 24p DV" check box, 24p video is read as 29.97 fps interlaced video (60i).

Dan Euritt · May 25th, 2005, 12:11 PM

let me re-phrase what i just said.

low-end dvd authoring packages like architect will typically NOT allow you to mix different framerates on the same dvd... hence my recommendation to move up to dvdlab pro, which is multi-vts capable.

with dvdlab pro, you can mix different audio formats and aspect ratios on the same dvd, just like hollywood does on the pro dvd's.

the limitation we are talking about here is that all of the video/audio in a vts(video title set) must have the same properties... frame size, audio format, etc.

so the question for the dvd architect people is whether or not it's multi-vts capable... perhaps that subject is mentioned in the instruction manual?

May 23rd, 2005, 10:14 PM	#1
Dan Measel Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 196	DVD Architect and 24p question Does anyone know if it's possible to put a 24fps video and 29fps video on the same DVD in Architect? For example if your company logo clip was 24fps and the actual video made was 29fps.

May 24th, 2005, 04:25 PM	#4
Patrick King Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Enterprise, AL Posts: 857	Dan Euritt, While you may be correct that many low-end DVD programs like DVDLab might do this, Mr. Measel was inquiring about the capabilities of Sony's DVD Architect product (presumably because he already owns it). Dan Measel, The section in the manual (pg26) that discusses this does not provide definitive guidance that DVDA can or cannot do this. It indicates that both NTSC video stream template or the 24p NTSC video stream template may be used to prepare the video streams for DVDA. It does not indicate that they can or cannot be mixed on a project. Later on page 155, the description of one of the General Tab check boxes would lead you to believe mixing the two types is possible. By clearing the "Allow pulldown removal when opening 24p DV" check box, 24p video is read as 29.97 fps interlaced video (60i). __________________ Fear No Weevil!

May 24th, 2005, 11:46 AM	#2
Dan Euritt Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Carlsbad CA Posts: 1,132	i forget what the name is for the situation you are describing, but it's not possible with a lot of the cheaper dvd authoring software that's been on the market. dvdlab pro will do it, tho, check it out at www.mediachance.com

May 24th, 2005, 04:08 PM	#3
Bennis Hahn Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 221	Don't quote me on this, bit I think it is possible. When you want to compress clips before burning the DVD, it gives you the option of 24 or 30 fps. I believe you can encode each file separately and it doesn't matter is they are combined on the DVD. I have not tried this, however, so you may want to do a test of some sort. I also do not know how DVDA handles already compressed files from Vegas encoded at different frame rates.

May 25th, 2005, 12:11 PM	#5
Dan Euritt Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Carlsbad CA Posts: 1,132	let me re-phrase what i just said. low-end dvd authoring packages like architect will typically NOT allow you to mix different framerates on the same dvd... hence my recommendation to move up to dvdlab pro, which is multi-vts capable. with dvdlab pro, you can mix different audio formats and aspect ratios on the same dvd, just like hollywood does on the pro dvd's. the limitation we are talking about here is that all of the video/audio in a vts(video title set) must have the same properties... frame size, audio format, etc. so the question for the dvd architect people is whether or not it's multi-vts capable... perhaps that subject is mentioned in the instruction manual?