Dual Layer DVD Burners....question

Charles King · July 10th, 2004, 08:09 AM

Well Well. Here I am now waiting for more than 50 mins and counting for nero to burn about 700mb file unto my nec 2510A dvd burner.
It's stuck at 34% process status. So, any thoughts?
I'll wait for about 5mins then I'll put the plug.

I went ahead and stopped the process then I went and clicked on the dvd drive and saw the files had been burned on the dvd.

So why was it taking so long??mmm!

Tommy Haupfear · July 10th, 2004, 08:26 AM

Do you have the latest firmaware? Have you tried a different program? Have you tried the DVD writer on its own IDE channel without a Master/Slave configuration?

Charles King · July 10th, 2004, 08:38 AM

The driver is on it's own ide channel. The firmware is the original firmware, it came with it. Being that it's new I don't think a new firmware is out yet. At least that's what I've been told any way.

Which other program should i use, do you think?

TingSern Wong · July 10th, 2004, 08:59 AM

It looks like hanging during the closing of the DVD. When I got my Plextor PX-708UF plugged into Firewire, I was testing it first time, Roxio hangs as well. I aborted it, found the DVD not closed properly, forced the DVD to close, and after that, it is perfect. Never had this problem repeated again. Must be lucky here.

And here are some pointers -

a) Multi-sessions on DVD are okay, but only for DATA DVDs. No standalone DVD player exists that can read DVD movies and play it normally. And most DVD authoring programs for movies only allow one session - a good thing.

b) Enable burn-proof or something like on your DVD burner - that way, you don't make a coaster from a DVD - $2 not very cheap....

c) When burning DVDs for movies (MPEG2), after burning it on a computer based DVD writer, play back that DVD on a set top DVD player - to test whether it can read it properly or not.

Tommy Haupfear · July 10th, 2004, 09:12 AM

I would try Roxio 6.0 (I also use DVD X-Copy Platinum) but you're right in that there are no firmware updates available. The only downloads available for the 2510 are the PDF data sheet and manual.

Tommy Haupfear · July 10th, 2004, 09:13 AM

Could media be an issue? Have you tried different media?

Charles King · July 10th, 2004, 09:25 AM

Thanks for the reponse guys.

Wong, I am definately not thinking of playing a data dvd in a standalone player. Never was my intension. Just as I mention earlier. It's simply for backup purposes as I have lots of important files I want save one one disk and dvd seems to be it being it can handle large amount of space on a single disk.

Tommy, I thought DVD X copy was only for doing straight dvd copies? Does it apply to data files also? Probably a dump question but you'll never know ;)

When I burned one or two files, it seems to go well butwhen I decided to burn a huge file it decided to 'idle' or 'coast' as you all call it. But the funny thing is, the info had been burn to the already. mmm!

Tommy Haupfear · July 10th, 2004, 09:55 AM

Charles, I think you're right about X-copy.

Is your desktop pretty speedy?

I think when an updated firmware comes out you should definitely jump on it. I would hate to think your new burner is defective.

Charles King · July 10th, 2004, 10:36 AM

To tell you the truth Tommy. I have an old computer system. It's a P3, 256 Ram XP. So I don't know if that has something to do with it.
One thing I forgot to mention when I was burning. I had a downloading program in the background running. mmmmmm!

Jesse Bekas · July 11th, 2004, 05:00 PM

I'm not sure what speed your drive is, but I was just reading the back of a package of 4X media (TDK?), and noticed a warning in tiny print that said if they were used in certain 1X, or 2X drives they could possibly ruin the drive, and void the drive's warranty! I personally don't know much about this, but at the very least I gathered that even after getting the right format discs, you might also need to match burn speeds as well. Now, obviously you couldn't burn at 4X on 2x media, but I thought you could burn at 2X on 4X media. That could have something to do with it.

EDIT - I zipped all the way to the end of this thread, not realizing it was about dual layered burners, in which case my idea on speed differences is probably useless...sorry.

July 10th, 2004, 08:09 AM	#16
Charles King Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sweden Posts: 795	Well Well. Here I am now waiting for more than 50 mins and counting for nero to burn about 700mb file unto my nec 2510A dvd burner. It's stuck at 34% process status. So, any thoughts? I'll wait for about 5mins then I'll put the plug. I went ahead and stopped the process then I went and clicked on the dvd drive and saw the files had been burned on the dvd. So why was it taking so long??mmm! __________________ Charles 'What we perceive to be may not be what we believe to be.'

July 10th, 2004, 08:38 AM	#18
Charles King Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sweden Posts: 795	The driver is on it's own ide channel. The firmware is the original firmware, it came with it. Being that it's new I don't think a new firmware is out yet. At least that's what I've been told any way. Which other program should i use, do you think? __________________ Charles 'What we perceive to be may not be what we believe to be.'

July 10th, 2004, 09:25 AM	#22
Charles King Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sweden Posts: 795	Thanks for the reponse guys. Wong, I am definately not thinking of playing a data dvd in a standalone player. Never was my intension. Just as I mention earlier. It's simply for backup purposes as I have lots of important files I want save one one disk and dvd seems to be it being it can handle large amount of space on a single disk. Tommy, I thought DVD X copy was only for doing straight dvd copies? Does it apply to data files also? Probably a dump question but you'll never know ;) When I burned one or two files, it seems to go well butwhen I decided to burn a huge file it decided to 'idle' or 'coast' as you all call it. But the funny thing is, the info had been burn to the already. mmm! __________________ Charles 'What we perceive to be may not be what we believe to be.'

July 10th, 2004, 10:36 AM	#24
Charles King Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sweden Posts: 795	To tell you the truth Tommy. I have an old computer system. It's a P3, 256 Ram XP. So I don't know if that has something to do with it. One thing I forgot to mention when I was burning. I had a downloading program in the background running. mmmmmm! __________________ Charles 'What we perceive to be may not be what we believe to be.'

July 10th, 2004, 08:26 AM	#17
Tommy Haupfear Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,415	Do you have the latest firmaware? Have you tried a different program? Have you tried the DVD writer on its own IDE channel without a Master/Slave configuration?

July 10th, 2004, 08:59 AM	#19
TingSern Wong Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Singapore, Rep of SINGAPORE Posts: 749	It looks like hanging during the closing of the DVD. When I got my Plextor PX-708UF plugged into Firewire, I was testing it first time, Roxio hangs as well. I aborted it, found the DVD not closed properly, forced the DVD to close, and after that, it is perfect. Never had this problem repeated again. Must be lucky here. And here are some pointers - a) Multi-sessions on DVD are okay, but only for DATA DVDs. No standalone DVD player exists that can read DVD movies and play it normally. And most DVD authoring programs for movies only allow one session - a good thing. b) Enable burn-proof or something like on your DVD burner - that way, you don't make a coaster from a DVD - $2 not very cheap.... c) When burning DVDs for movies (MPEG2), after burning it on a computer based DVD writer, play back that DVD on a set top DVD player - to test whether it can read it properly or not.

July 10th, 2004, 09:12 AM	#20
Tommy Haupfear Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,415	I would try Roxio 6.0 (I also use DVD X-Copy Platinum) but you're right in that there are no firmware updates available. The only downloads available for the 2510 are the PDF data sheet and manual.

July 10th, 2004, 09:13 AM	#21
Tommy Haupfear Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,415	Could media be an issue? Have you tried different media?

July 10th, 2004, 09:55 AM	#23
Tommy Haupfear Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,415	Charles, I think you're right about X-copy. Is your desktop pretty speedy? I think when an updated firmware comes out you should definitely jump on it. I would hate to think your new burner is defective.

July 11th, 2004, 05:00 PM	#25
Jesse Bekas Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ridgefield Park, New Jersey, USA Posts: 572	I'm not sure what speed your drive is, but I was just reading the back of a package of 4X media (TDK?), and noticed a warning in tiny print that said if they were used in certain 1X, or 2X drives they could possibly ruin the drive, and void the drive's warranty! I personally don't know much about this, but at the very least I gathered that even after getting the right format discs, you might also need to match burn speeds as well. Now, obviously you couldn't burn at 4X on 2x media, but I thought you could burn at 2X on 4X media. That could have something to do with it. EDIT - I zipped all the way to the end of this thread, not realizing it was about dual layered burners, in which case my idea on speed differences is probably useless...sorry.