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Andrew Leigh · January 24th, 2004, 05:45 AM

Hi,

Unusual problem. A wrote a +R DVD for a friend. On my machine it plays back fine, on their DVD player it plays to a point then stops (about 17 min into the DVD). The next time they played it they managed to go further. Once even they managed to get to play all the way through but are unable to repeat this with any certainty.

I checked out their DVD player on the net which claimed that it did no support +R but all the others. So I wrote a -R DVD which they are unable to read at all. They are able to play back other movies and DVD's.

Any thoughts?

Used TMGEnc's 2,5 plus encoder and their DVD authoring package with Verbatum media written by a Sony DSU510a.

Cheers
Andrew

Edward Troxel · January 24th, 2004, 07:17 AM

Could be several things:

1) The media
2) The player's compatibility to +R
3) The bitrate
4) The program that burned the DVD

etc...

Andre De Clercq · January 24th, 2004, 08:45 AM

The media in combination with the (PC) player can be checked here http://www.cdspeed2000.com/go.php3?link=download.html
The problems you reported, like playing a limited (and variable) time. relate to micro resonances in the disc/player combination and sometimes limited track reflectivities.

Rob Lohman · January 25th, 2004, 10:33 AM

I would rule out the authoring or burning program since it isn't
happening at the exact same spot everytime, which you would
expect if that were the problem.

My first suspect would definitely be the media, but since you
also tested with -R (which it should support) I'm starting to
think the DVD player may not be 100% OK. Bitrate might be
an issue, but normally an authoring application should not allow
you to go over the max bitrate. Personally I would not push a
recordable to the absolute maximum when bitrates are concerned,
but others have reported no problems in that area.

Jake Russell · January 26th, 2004, 05:49 AM

Yeah you should try a different brand of media for sure but remember that there are many many players out there still that don't support recordable media.

So if the player doesn't support it there isn't much you can do. Sounds to me like the buffer is having problems with the disc, which could be a recordable media thing or poss a bitrate thing. Is your audio PCM? or AC-3?

Jake

Arnaldo Paixao · January 30th, 2004, 05:38 AM

Have you tried DVD+RW (although one of the less compatible formats, sometimes can work where -R/+R failed).

Apart from that, 7000 max bit rate and AC3 audio are good practices.

Seems to me that you came across a DVD player that isn't happy about recordable DVDs. When that happens, most of the times using -R or +R won't make any diference. There is a solution, but very expensive (for a non professessional user): a Pionner S210 DVD recorder wich uses 3.95 GB Authoring DVD-R media, the most player compatible DVD recordable format.

Good luck and best regards.
Arnaldo

George Ellis · March 2nd, 2004, 08:57 PM

I know this is an old thread, but there is one other thing to consider. Do not use a label (although not mentioned) on a DVD either. It would have similar results, but this sounds more like a media issue. Apple and Maxell are the best, easily obtainable media. Maxell is sold at WalMart.

January 24th, 2004, 05:45 AM	#1
Andrew Leigh Major Player Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Johannesburg, South Africa Posts: 220	DVD plays to a point then stops Hi, Unusual problem. A wrote a +R DVD for a friend. On my machine it plays back fine, on their DVD player it plays to a point then stops (about 17 min into the DVD). The next time they played it they managed to go further. Once even they managed to get to play all the way through but are unable to repeat this with any certainty. I checked out their DVD player on the net which claimed that it did no support +R but all the others. So I wrote a -R DVD which they are unable to read at all. They are able to play back other movies and DVD's. Any thoughts? Used TMGEnc's 2,5 plus encoder and their DVD authoring package with Verbatum media written by a Sony DSU510a. Cheers Andrew __________________ PAL XL-1, DV Raptor, Premiere TOTAL AMATEUR - DOING IT FOR THE FUN

January 25th, 2004, 10:33 AM	#4
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I would rule out the authoring or burning program since it isn't happening at the exact same spot everytime, which you would expect if that were the problem. My first suspect would definitely be the media, but since you also tested with -R (which it should support) I'm starting to think the DVD player may not be 100% OK. Bitrate might be an issue, but normally an authoring application should not allow you to go over the max bitrate. Personally I would not push a recordable to the absolute maximum when bitrates are concerned, but others have reported no problems in that area. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 24th, 2004, 07:17 AM	#2
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Could be several things: 1) The media 2) The player's compatibility to +R 3) The bitrate 4) The program that burned the DVD etc...

January 24th, 2004, 08:45 AM	#3
Andre De Clercq Major Player Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 804	The media in combination with the (PC) player can be checked here http://www.cdspeed2000.com/go.php3?link=download.html The problems you reported, like playing a limited (and variable) time. relate to micro resonances in the disc/player combination and sometimes limited track reflectivities.

January 26th, 2004, 05:49 AM	#5
Jake Russell Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 177	Yeah you should try a different brand of media for sure but remember that there are many many players out there still that don't support recordable media. So if the player doesn't support it there isn't much you can do. Sounds to me like the buffer is having problems with the disc, which could be a recordable media thing or poss a bitrate thing. Is your audio PCM? or AC-3? Jake

January 30th, 2004, 05:38 AM	#6
Arnaldo Paixao Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Vimeiro - Portugal Posts: 255	Have you tried DVD+RW (although one of the less compatible formats, sometimes can work where -R/+R failed). Apart from that, 7000 max bit rate and AC3 audio are good practices. Seems to me that you came across a DVD player that isn't happy about recordable DVDs. When that happens, most of the times using -R or +R won't make any diference. There is a solution, but very expensive (for a non professessional user): a Pionner S210 DVD recorder wich uses 3.95 GB Authoring DVD-R media, the most player compatible DVD recordable format. Good luck and best regards. Arnaldo

March 2nd, 2004, 08:57 PM	#7
George Ellis Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Suwanee, GA Posts: 1,241	I know this is an old thread, but there is one other thing to consider. Do not use a label (although not mentioned) on a DVD either. It would have similar results, but this sounds more like a media issue. Apple and Maxell are the best, easily obtainable media. Maxell is sold at WalMart.