DVD Disc Disclaimer

Robert Knecht Schmidt · December 5th, 2003, 07:44 AM

Trond:
I've recently had the opposite experience! See the format war thread that I posted in the DVD forum.

Arnaldo Paixao · December 5th, 2003, 09:40 AM

Hi Danny.

When I sugested 7000 bitrate I assumed you where using higher than that. If you'r using lower, most of the times its ok.

Try HP (Hewlet Packard) DVD+R media. That's what I use with good results.

Do you put labels on your DVDs? If they are not exactly centered, and I mean exactly, you'll shurely have trouble.

Best regards,
Arnaldo

Danny Santos · December 5th, 2003, 11:51 AM

Hi Arnaldo, I am using 6000 bitrate for Mpg2 to create DVDs.

I read also through another forum that paper labels can also cause problems because the paper and adhesive add weight to the disc and somehow affects to spin.

Someday we will get the DVD-Making so simplified and there won't be anymore challenges.

Trond Saetre · December 5th, 2003, 12:54 PM

Robert:
I checked out your other "format war thread".

I agree that all DVD-ROM players accept both DVD+R and DVD-R. Never had any problems there.
And yes, same price differences here in Norway, the DVD+R costs more than DVD-R.

However, with stand alone DVD players, my experience is that some older players don't play both +R and -R.

I have also had an opposite situation with my own JVC XV-521 stand alone DVD player.
According to the manual, this player should not support DVD+/-R. But it plays both formats without any problems.

Gints Klimanis · December 5th, 2003, 01:28 PM

>I agree that all DVD-ROM players accept both DVD+R and DVD-R. >Never had any problems there.

This is definitely not true. None of my Sony or Toshiba DVD-ROM drives from pre-2002 recognize DVD+R. I had to hunt around to find a Hitachi DVD-ROM and plug it in to read a DVD+R. Even so, it had trouble copying the contents of a DVD-ROM to my hard drive as the data reached the outer portions of the DVD+R .
Also, my Pioneer A04 DVD-RW won't recognize DVD+R. So, I'm also guessing that all pre-A06 units don't do DVD+R without the latest firmware upgrades. Like, who but the technically elite will do such an upgrade ?

Check this list
http://www.dvdplusrw.org/Compatibility.asp?mid=0&sid=2

This list includes at least one DVD-ROM drives that I own (Toshiba SD-M1612) that doesn't recognize DVD+R but is still listed as so.
I suspect that the drives tested are those with the latest firmware available for that product and thus does not reflect the
capabilities of the drives shipped with ealier firmware.

Trond Saetre · December 6th, 2003, 11:09 AM

Gints:
Seems like I did not have the correct information about DVD-ROM.

According to a friend of mine who is working for a computer shop, almost all such tests are done with the latest firmware updates. That might be the reason why your Toshiba drive won't play DVD+R.

December 5th, 2003, 07:44 AM	#16
Robert Knecht Schmidt Wrangler Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,933	Trond: I've recently had the opposite experience! See the format war thread that I posted in the DVD forum. __________________ All the best, Robert K S Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| The best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

December 5th, 2003, 09:40 AM	#17
Arnaldo Paixao Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Vimeiro - Portugal Posts: 255	Hi Danny. When I sugested 7000 bitrate I assumed you where using higher than that. If you'r using lower, most of the times its ok. Try HP (Hewlet Packard) DVD+R media. That's what I use with good results. Do you put labels on your DVDs? If they are not exactly centered, and I mean exactly, you'll shurely have trouble. Best regards, Arnaldo

December 5th, 2003, 11:51 AM	#18
Danny Santos Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Antioch, CA USA Posts: 49	Hi Arnaldo, I am using 6000 bitrate for Mpg2 to create DVDs. I read also through another forum that paper labels can also cause problems because the paper and adhesive add weight to the disc and somehow affects to spin. Someday we will get the DVD-Making so simplified and there won't be anymore challenges.

December 5th, 2003, 12:54 PM	#19
Trond Saetre Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bergen, Norway Posts: 3,375	Robert: I checked out your other "format war thread". I agree that all DVD-ROM players accept both DVD+R and DVD-R. Never had any problems there. And yes, same price differences here in Norway, the DVD+R costs more than DVD-R. However, with stand alone DVD players, my experience is that some older players don't play both +R and -R. I have also had an opposite situation with my own JVC XV-521 stand alone DVD player. According to the manual, this player should not support DVD+/-R. But it plays both formats without any problems.

December 5th, 2003, 01:28 PM	#20
Gints Klimanis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,222	>I agree that all DVD-ROM players accept both DVD+R and DVD-R. >Never had any problems there. This is definitely not true. None of my Sony or Toshiba DVD-ROM drives from pre-2002 recognize DVD+R. I had to hunt around to find a Hitachi DVD-ROM and plug it in to read a DVD+R. Even so, it had trouble copying the contents of a DVD-ROM to my hard drive as the data reached the outer portions of the DVD+R . Also, my Pioneer A04 DVD-RW won't recognize DVD+R. So, I'm also guessing that all pre-A06 units don't do DVD+R without the latest firmware upgrades. Like, who but the technically elite will do such an upgrade ? Check this list http://www.dvdplusrw.org/Compatibility.asp?mid=0&sid=2 This list includes at least one DVD-ROM drives that I own (Toshiba SD-M1612) that doesn't recognize DVD+R but is still listed as so. I suspect that the drives tested are those with the latest firmware available for that product and thus does not reflect the capabilities of the drives shipped with ealier firmware.

December 6th, 2003, 11:09 AM	#21
Trond Saetre Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bergen, Norway Posts: 3,375	Gints: Seems like I did not have the correct information about DVD-ROM. According to a friend of mine who is working for a computer shop, almost all such tests are done with the latest firmware updates. That might be the reason why your Toshiba drive won't play DVD+R.