DVC5 Feedback

Steve Shilson · April 13th, 2006, 01:01 PM

I thought I would do the same as Mr.Gardner and start a feedback thread for my short! I'd first off like to say that the other three in the same thread as mine did an awesome job, and I enjoyed them very much!!

As for the specs, I shot it all with a DVX100 and a poopy tripod. I edited it on Vegas 6.0. And this is my first ever short film! :)

I'm looking forward to feedback, good or bad. . .it will only help me out! :)

Thanks guys,
Steve Shilson

Edward Slonaker · April 13th, 2006, 01:06 PM

I've been waiting for you to put this thread on so I can tell you what a COOL idea it was using the reflection off the rails!!! Helluvan idea!! All-in-all, really good flick and good job with the effects. Camera angles, lighting, pace, all good.

Bradley L Marlow · April 13th, 2006, 01:22 PM

Hi Steve- I was hoping you would put up this thread too. Glad you did.

This is your FIRST short film?!? Way to go! I wish my first short film was as good as yours.

You had some wonderful shots in here. I really like the rail and your use of depth of field. It appeared that you used a rack focus shot as well. Nice.

My only other suggestion is perhaps giving away the end too early. I know it can be difficult to avoid at times.

First time out- you should be patting yourself on the back!

Best wishes~
Bradley

Lorinda Norton · April 13th, 2006, 01:30 PM

Hi Steve,
I liked your story, but I have to say that what really struck me is your flair for cinematography! I felt like I was watching a feature film right from the beginning. Beautiful!

William Gardner · April 13th, 2006, 01:46 PM

I'll chime in like the others: awesome cinemetography! How did you get so many shots with the small depth of field? It looked fabulous!

Well done,
Bill

John Brickner Jr · April 13th, 2006, 02:00 PM

You da man Steve. I gave you my feedback on the 'Link *wink*

Philip Gioja · April 13th, 2006, 02:01 PM

I was really struck by the beautiful cinematography as well - really nicely shot. The family shots work really well, and the black sweatshirt w/hood are great too, makes you feel like he's a modern spectre-type figure. Very cool. I think this kind of cinematography is really popular right now -- very modern. I've always wanted to do it that way, but don't really know where to start, so I end up looking pretty old-school most of the time.

I guess I felt like the voice-over was a little hurried and overbearing, didn't really match the quality of the photography, and the music sounded like a loop that just kept getting faster. I know exactly what you were going for, and you got really close, but I felt like it was trying to steal attention from the photography rather than work with it -- something like that.

Just my own opinion, but it really turned out great -- something to be proud of. I'll be using your film as a reference next time I try to shoot train tracks.

Tyler Baptist · April 13th, 2006, 02:05 PM

That's an awesome first effort. You used some really good camera angles, and your lighting in all your shots looked really good and natural.

Robert Martens · April 13th, 2006, 02:13 PM

First ever short film? You had me fooled. I'm in love with all the focus decisions you made, especially looking straight down the tracks, with only the nearest tie in focus. The variety of camera angles was quite pleasing, and the widescreen framing? Smoove diamonds.

The only thing I find a bit out of place is a few of the dialogue pieces. "Questions like this just continuously ponder through my head", and one or two others, sound a bit strange. Almost like there are too many words, if that makes any sense. Hard to explain, maybe it's just my inner Grammar Nazi showing through.

Other than that, it's wonderful--though I do wonder how those objects were propped against the rails without being destroyed, or at least knocked out of the way, when the next train passed. :)

Hugo Pinto · April 13th, 2006, 02:22 PM

No way I would have figured out this is your first short. VERY VERY VERY good job! One of my favorites of the day! (too bad Wall of Shamers can't vote, hum?)

Loved the cinematography decisions, and loved the story and twist. My only repair would be that the dialogue as he looks at the picture [no spoilers here] is maybe a bit too theatrical, and sounds a bit out of place.

Overall, very good work.

Hugo

Meryem Ersoz · April 13th, 2006, 09:16 PM

i have a nostalgia thing for railroads, probably from hearing the train whistle through my window in the summer as a child, and have been wanting to shoot some stock RR footage just to have it and because it seems like it would be a fun thing to shoot...the geometry and spatial vectors are so cool. you made great use of that here. i really, really enjoyed the railroad footage. some unique angles.

excellent. i can't believe this is your first effort, really. my own was so utterly ham-handed, and this is so polished.

Mark Utley · April 14th, 2006, 02:35 AM

You had some really nice shots. I wouldn't have ever guessed it was your first film. Great job!

Michael Fossenkemper · April 14th, 2006, 06:16 AM

I really like some of the shots in here. great job.

Bruce Broussard · April 14th, 2006, 10:19 AM

I also echo the cheers for the cinematrogaphy. Excellent. The only criticism that I would have would be that as the film neared the end, some of the scenes seemed drawn out, Maybe it was just the effect of the music. Overall, excellent job.

Volker Krieger · April 14th, 2006, 03:36 PM

Somehow, your short reminds me of the movie "The Others" (with Nicole Kidman) - the theme strikes the center of metaphysical hopes and fears (ouch) - difficult for me to explain in a foreign language... I like it!

April 13th, 2006, 01:01 PM	#1
Steve Shilson Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Windsor, Ontario Canada Posts: 49	DVC5 Feedback - Tracks of Reality I thought I would do the same as Mr.Gardner and start a feedback thread for my short! I'd first off like to say that the other three in the same thread as mine did an awesome job, and I enjoyed them very much!! As for the specs, I shot it all with a DVX100 and a poopy tripod. I edited it on Vegas 6.0. And this is my first ever short film! :) I'm looking forward to feedback, good or bad. . .it will only help me out! :) Thanks guys, Steve Shilson

April 13th, 2006, 01:06 PM	#2
Edward Slonaker Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hell's 6 acres in S. Texas Posts: 203	I've been waiting for you to put this thread on so I can tell you what a COOL idea it was using the reflection off the rails!!! Helluvan idea!! All-in-all, really good flick and good job with the effects. Camera angles, lighting, pace, all good. __________________ Edward Slonaker El Pilon Productions San Patricio, Texas www.elpilon.com

April 13th, 2006, 01:30 PM	#4
Lorinda Norton Wrangler Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southwest Idaho, USA Posts: 3,066	Hi Steve, I liked your story, but I have to say that what really struck me is your flair for cinematography! I felt like I was watching a feature film right from the beginning. Beautiful! __________________ Lorinda

April 13th, 2006, 02:05 PM	#8
Tyler Baptist Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Saskatoon, SK Canada Posts: 71	That's an awesome first effort. You used some really good camera angles, and your lighting in all your shots looked really good and natural. __________________ Tyler Baptist

April 14th, 2006, 02:35 AM	#12
Mark Utley Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 479	You had some really nice shots. I wouldn't have ever guessed it was your first film. Great job! __________________ Mark Utley

April 13th, 2006, 01:22 PM	#3
Bradley L Marlow Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Central Wyoming Posts: 484	Hi Steve- I was hoping you would put up this thread too. Glad you did. This is your FIRST short film?!? Way to go! I wish my first short film was as good as yours. You had some wonderful shots in here. I really like the rail and your use of depth of field. It appeared that you used a rack focus shot as well. Nice. My only other suggestion is perhaps giving away the end too early. I know it can be difficult to avoid at times. First time out- you should be patting yourself on the back! Best wishes~ Bradley

April 13th, 2006, 01:46 PM	#5
William Gardner Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 216	I'll chime in like the others: awesome cinemetography! How did you get so many shots with the small depth of field? It looked fabulous! Well done, Bill

April 13th, 2006, 02:00 PM	#6
John Brickner Jr Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tiffin, Ohio Posts: 77	You da man Steve. I gave you my feedback on the 'Link wink

April 13th, 2006, 02:01 PM	#7
Philip Gioja Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Piper City, IL Posts: 350	I was really struck by the beautiful cinematography as well - really nicely shot. The family shots work really well, and the black sweatshirt w/hood are great too, makes you feel like he's a modern spectre-type figure. Very cool. I think this kind of cinematography is really popular right now -- very modern. I've always wanted to do it that way, but don't really know where to start, so I end up looking pretty old-school most of the time. I guess I felt like the voice-over was a little hurried and overbearing, didn't really match the quality of the photography, and the music sounded like a loop that just kept getting faster. I know exactly what you were going for, and you got really close, but I felt like it was trying to steal attention from the photography rather than work with it -- something like that. Just my own opinion, but it really turned out great -- something to be proud of. I'll be using your film as a reference next time I try to shoot train tracks.

April 13th, 2006, 02:13 PM	#9
Robert Martens Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Miller Place, NY Posts: 820	First ever short film? You had me fooled. I'm in love with all the focus decisions you made, especially looking straight down the tracks, with only the nearest tie in focus. The variety of camera angles was quite pleasing, and the widescreen framing? Smoove diamonds. The only thing I find a bit out of place is a few of the dialogue pieces. "Questions like this just continuously ponder through my head", and one or two others, sound a bit strange. Almost like there are too many words, if that makes any sense. Hard to explain, maybe it's just my inner Grammar Nazi showing through. Other than that, it's wonderful--though I do wonder how those objects were propped against the rails without being destroyed, or at least knocked out of the way, when the next train passed. :)

April 13th, 2006, 02:22 PM	#10
Hugo Pinto Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lisbon, Portugal Posts: 92	No way I would have figured out this is your first short. VERY VERY VERY good job! One of my favorites of the day! (too bad Wall of Shamers can't vote, hum?) Loved the cinematography decisions, and loved the story and twist. My only repair would be that the dialogue as he looks at the picture [no spoilers here] is maybe a bit too theatrical, and sounds a bit out of place. Overall, very good work. Hugo

April 13th, 2006, 09:16 PM	#11
Meryem Ersoz Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 3,015	i have a nostalgia thing for railroads, probably from hearing the train whistle through my window in the summer as a child, and have been wanting to shoot some stock RR footage just to have it and because it seems like it would be a fun thing to shoot...the geometry and spatial vectors are so cool. you made great use of that here. i really, really enjoyed the railroad footage. some unique angles. excellent. i can't believe this is your first effort, really. my own was so utterly ham-handed, and this is so polished.

April 14th, 2006, 06:16 AM	#13
Michael Fossenkemper Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NYC, weeee. Posts: 417	I really like some of the shots in here. great job.

April 14th, 2006, 10:19 AM	#14
Bruce Broussard Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 132	I also echo the cheers for the cinematrogaphy. Excellent. The only criticism that I would have would be that as the film neared the end, some of the scenes seemed drawn out, Maybe it was just the effect of the music. Overall, excellent job.

April 14th, 2006, 03:36 PM	#15
Volker Krieger Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dortmund/Germany Posts: 34	Somehow, your short reminds me of the movie "The Others" (with Nicole Kidman) - the theme strikes the center of metaphysical hopes and fears (ouch) - difficult for me to explain in a foreign language... I like it! __________________ www.volkerkrieger.de www.kettenvideo.de