OT: does your IE distinguish between read/unread threads? at DVinfo.net

Piotr Wozniacki · November 30th, 2008, 05:51 AM

It used to be a very useful feature of this board, but doesn't seem to work any longer...

Or is it just my IE?

Peter Kraft · November 30th, 2008, 06:35 AM

Piotr, it must be your IE.
Here I can see read/unread messages correctly on Safari (Mac) and simultanuously in IE (Win, same machine thanks to Virtual Machine/Parallels).

Best P.

Malcolm Hamilton · November 30th, 2008, 06:37 AM

Hi Piotr,
Exactly the same thing has happened to me (Safair/Mac), but I just assumed it was because I'm travelling, and not on my normal network. Maybe not though? I'll know when I get home on Wednesday.
Malcolm

Piotr Wozniacki · November 30th, 2008, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Kraft

Piotr, it must be your IE.
Here I can see read/unread messages correctly on Safari (Mac) and simultanuously in IE (Win, same machine thanks to Virtual Machine/Parallels).

Best P.

Something must be going on - not only do visited threads still display in bold fonts, but I never see new posts when inside a thread, until I refresh the page...

Of course, I tried my IE setting, and the reload setting is at "Auto" (as before); I tried the "Refresh pages each time" option but it doesn't change anything. And, it only behaves that way with DVINFO board.

Chris, could you chime in, please?

George Kroonder · November 30th, 2008, 07:03 AM

I had this yesterday, but everything seems to be back to normal now.

George/

P.S. I did do a "Mark Forums Read" from the Quick Links menu, but that had no immediate effect yesterday (threads were still showing up in bold).

George Kroonder · November 30th, 2008, 09:44 AM

It's off again here... Only posts that I have visited are regular type (not-bold). I use the "Today's Posts" from the quick menu to quickly see all recent posts.

Under normal conditions those below the "The threads below have not been updated since your last visit or since forums have been marked read" line are in regular type.

However these are now bold also, except those threads I have visited recently.

George/

Andy Wilkinson · November 30th, 2008, 10:35 AM

Yes I get these issues too and some of the ones Chris Soucy posted about.

Chris (Hurd) did post on Friday that they were working on resolving all the recent board issues like this but that it could take a bit of time - whilst they digest all that Thanksgiving holiday turkey no doubt! I'm sure it'll all be resolved in a few days. My pet theory is that it's the 1000 plus SXS alternatives thread in the XDCAM EX1/3 section that's screwed it all up! (joke!)

Chris Hurd · November 30th, 2008, 12:23 PM

The solution was posted to http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/970561-post4.html

Sorry about the trouble, but it is a one-click fix.

Andy Tejral · November 30th, 2008, 01:10 PM

Hmm. Not so much.

I need to manually refresh to get accurate 'new posts'. Same in a thread--need to refresh to see the new posts in a thread I've already viewed.

Jenn Kramer · November 30th, 2008, 01:24 PM

Hey guys, I've flipped a few switches that should expire things out of the IE cache faster. Post here if it has the desired effect or if you're still having trouble.

Andy Tejral · November 30th, 2008, 02:57 PM

More weirdness:

After I read a thread, it no longer appears in the 'new posts' list--I read this, 'new posts', not there--had to go to the individual forum to post this response. Refreshing does not seem to help.

Also, can the 'new posts' become old posts time be increased? Sometimes I'll follow an external link and by the time I'm finished, I have 'no' new posts. I see that the forum is keeping track of old posts that haven't been read--is that supposed to achieve the same thing?

Giroud Francois · November 30th, 2008, 03:03 PM

Seems there is a cache feature activated on the server that is not serving the latest version of a page. A refresh is needed to see the new posts.
I changed nothing for month in my PC and this problem occurs only since few days and on several PC, so it is definitely server side.
is it because the "The threads below have not been updated since your last visit but still contain unread posts." feature ? I cannot remember having seen that before on DVinfo (these Vbulletin looks all the same)

Jenn Kramer · November 30th, 2008, 03:41 PM

Once you hit a thread, unless someone posts something else in that thread the thread will be marked as read for you. If you don't read a thread for 10 days after the last post, it'll be marked as read.

The server isn't caching any pages, but you may still have some cached pages on your local machine from before I updated the expiration time. (Or, if you have some kind of web proxy infront of you it may be caching them.) A reload on those pages should clear that, though.

Chris Soucy · November 30th, 2008, 07:36 PM

The "Quick Links" - "Mark Forums as Read" does clear the home page of "new post" flags, and seems to have cleared most of the threads in most of the Forums.

What it has not cleared (on my system anyway) is a shed load of threads in the XH forum, a decent batch in the XL H forum and one solitary thread in "The Totem Pole".

Many of the sub forums in the "Support your local Camera" indicate new posts but have no bolded threads internally.

I'm still rummageing so there could well be more.

Curiouser and curioser.

CS

PS: When I wrote this, the last post visible in this thread was CH's back @#8. Having posted, it's down in #14 (where were all the other posts hiding?).

Just to add to the list of funnies, this thread isn't even listed in the "DVinfo Net Announcements" listing.

Giroud Francois · December 1st, 2008, 01:05 AM

Since it seems i am not the only one to get the problem around the world, it indicates that is definitely a server side problem.

November 30th, 2008, 10:35 AM	#7
Andy Wilkinson Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cambridge UK Posts: 2,853	Yes I get these issues too and some of the ones Chris Soucy posted about. Chris (Hurd) did post on Friday that they were working on resolving all the recent board issues like this but that it could take a bit of time - whilst they digest all that Thanksgiving holiday turkey no doubt! I'm sure it'll all be resolved in a few days. My pet theory is that it's the 1000 plus SXS alternatives thread in the XDCAM EX1/3 section that's screwed it all up! (joke!) __________________ Andy K Wilkinson - https://www.shootingimage.co.uk Cambridge (UK) Corporate Video Production

November 30th, 2008, 01:10 PM	#9
Andy Tejral Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 523	Hmm. Not so much. I need to manually refresh to get accurate 'new posts'. Same in a thread--need to refresh to see the new posts in a thread I've already viewed. __________________ Andy Tejral Railroad Videographer

November 30th, 2008, 02:57 PM	#11
Andy Tejral Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 523	More weirdness: After I read a thread, it no longer appears in the 'new posts' list--I read this, 'new posts', not there--had to go to the individual forum to post this response. Refreshing does not seem to help. Also, can the 'new posts' become old posts time be increased? Sometimes I'll follow an external link and by the time I'm finished, I have 'no' new posts. I see that the forum is keeping track of old posts that haven't been read--is that supposed to achieve the same thing? __________________ Andy Tejral Railroad Videographer

November 30th, 2008, 05:51 AM	#1
Piotr Wozniacki Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 4,086	OT: does your IE distinguish between read/unread threads? It used to be a very useful feature of this board, but doesn't seem to work any longer... Or is it just my IE? __________________ Sony PXW-FS7 \| DaVinci Resolve Studio; Magix Vegas Pro; i7-5960X CPU; 64 GB RAM; 2x GTX 1080 8GB GPU; Decklink 4K Extreme 12G; 4x 3TB WD Black in RAID 0; 1TB M.2 NVMe cache drive

November 30th, 2008, 06:35 AM	#2
Peter Kraft Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Europe Posts: 245	Piotr, it must be your IE. Here I can see read/unread messages correctly on Safari (Mac) and simultanuously in IE (Win, same machine thanks to Virtual Machine/Parallels). Best P.

November 30th, 2008, 06:37 AM	#3
Malcolm Hamilton Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 844	Hi Piotr, Exactly the same thing has happened to me (Safair/Mac), but I just assumed it was because I'm travelling, and not on my normal network. Maybe not though? I'll know when I get home on Wednesday. Malcolm

November 30th, 2008, 07:03 AM	#5
George Kroonder Major Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Utrecht, NL \| Europe 3rd Rock from the Sun Posts: 612	I had this yesterday, but everything seems to be back to normal now. George/ P.S. I did do a "Mark Forums Read" from the Quick Links menu, but that had no immediate effect yesterday (threads were still showing up in bold).

November 30th, 2008, 09:44 AM	#6
George Kroonder Major Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Utrecht, NL \| Europe 3rd Rock from the Sun Posts: 612	It's off again here... Only posts that I have visited are regular type (not-bold). I use the "Today's Posts" from the quick menu to quickly see all recent posts. Under normal conditions those below the "The threads below have not been updated since your last visit or since forums have been marked read" line are in regular type. However these are now bold also, except those threads I have visited recently. George/

November 30th, 2008, 12:23 PM	#8
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	The solution was posted to http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/970561-post4.html Sorry about the trouble, but it is a one-click fix. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

November 30th, 2008, 01:24 PM	#10
Jenn Kramer Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 389 Images: 1	Hey guys, I've flipped a few switches that should expire things out of the IE cache faster. Post here if it has the desired effect or if you're still having trouble.

November 30th, 2008, 03:03 PM	#12
Giroud Francois Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: switzerland Posts: 2,133	Seems there is a cache feature activated on the server that is not serving the latest version of a page. A refresh is needed to see the new posts. I changed nothing for month in my PC and this problem occurs only since few days and on several PC, so it is definitely server side. is it because the "The threads below have not been updated since your last visit but still contain unread posts." feature ? I cannot remember having seen that before on DVinfo (these Vbulletin looks all the same)

November 30th, 2008, 03:41 PM	#13
Jenn Kramer Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 389 Images: 1	Once you hit a thread, unless someone posts something else in that thread the thread will be marked as read for you. If you don't read a thread for 10 days after the last post, it'll be marked as read. The server isn't caching any pages, but you may still have some cached pages on your local machine from before I updated the expiration time. (Or, if you have some kind of web proxy infront of you it may be caching them.) A reload on those pages should clear that, though.

November 30th, 2008, 07:36 PM	#14
Chris Soucy Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fairfield, Dunedin, New Zealand Posts: 3,689 Images: 18	Oh no it's not............ The "Quick Links" - "Mark Forums as Read" does clear the home page of "new post" flags, and seems to have cleared most of the threads in most of the Forums. What it has not cleared (on my system anyway) is a shed load of threads in the XH forum, a decent batch in the XL H forum and one solitary thread in "The Totem Pole". Many of the sub forums in the "Support your local Camera" indicate new posts but have no bolded threads internally. I'm still rummageing so there could well be more. Curiouser and curioser. CS PS: When I wrote this, the last post visible in this thread was CH's back @#8. Having posted, it's down in #14 (where were all the other posts hiding?). Just to add to the list of funnies, this thread isn't even listed in the "DVinfo Net Announcements" listing. Last edited by Chris Soucy; November 30th, 2008 at 07:45 PM. Reason: + (Make a phrase using the words marbles and losing)

December 1st, 2008, 01:05 AM	#15
Giroud Francois Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: switzerland Posts: 2,133	Since it seems i am not the only one to get the problem around the world, it indicates that is definitely a server side problem.