Dropping out at DVinfo.net

Peter Ferling · August 8th, 2006, 09:39 PM

I've had five wonder days of good shooting and compositing, until tonight. Sadly, my tripod was not secure enough and it let go. The HC1 hit the floor hard, requiring repairs, (and no I don't expect a miracle with the Sony consumer division). I still require more shooting, including capture from todays tape. Alas, I have to give in and I'm hard pressed to spend funds for a non-paying gig.

It was fun. Maybe next time.

Gabriel Yeager · August 8th, 2006, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter Ferling

Sadly, my tripod was not secure enough and it let go. The HC1 hit the floor hard, requiring repairs, (and no I don't expect a miracle with the Sony consumer division).

I'm sorry to hear that! It sounds like it took a good fall there...
So are you going to be able to repair it? Please let me know!

Gabriel.

Sean McHenry · August 8th, 2006, 10:09 PM

Check to be sure the HC1 is considered BY SONY to be "consumer". If it is, sorry. That has to hurt. If it's not consumer your luck is a bit better. Sony Professional is quite a bit better on repairs. One of the reason I went with the time tested PDX-10 a year or more ago. It's considered the low end of the pro line.

I had a cat drop a beautiful mint condition Olympus OM-4 black body 35mm camera once. Nudged it right off the table long lens and all. The lens survived but not so the magnesium body. I hated that cat for years but still cried when I had her put down (years later due to illness, not because of the camera thing).

Sean

Phillip Jackson · August 9th, 2006, 05:16 AM

cheap Sony cameras eh! can't handle the floor! hehe

5 days of shooting?!?! sound epic for a short film to me (especially for the DVC's)

Don't give up just edit what you got captured and if you been shooting in order then just slap a "To Be Continued..." on the end.

Improve your editing skills by editing with only what ya got.

Peter Ferling · August 9th, 2006, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Phillip Jackson

cheap Sony cameras eh! can't handle the floor! hehe

5 days of shooting?!?! sound epic for a short film to me (especially for the DVC's)

Don't give up just edit what you got captured and if you been shooting in order then just slap a "To Be Continued..." on the end.

Improve your editing skills by editing with only what ya got.

My whole life is an unfinished edit, with me improving what I have. Sorry, but I have to step down. I may finish the piece itself when the camera returns, as I'd rather release a completed piece, (Maybe I'll have time to refine it then). However, only half the dialog exists and for the sake of the contest, it won't work. Kinda like a joke without the punch-line.

Sean, sorry to hear about your Cat. Pet's are family. It's no fun taking the last ride to the vet. My daughter had a bird that nearly lost it's leg. I paid a vet 3x the cost of replacing the bird to fix the leg. Some folks thought I was crazy, until I asked them to tell it to my daughter. It managed a full recovery and live another three-years to the ripe age of 15.

the HC1 is a prosumer cam. I knew that would be the case before I bought it. Because they are no longer available; and I don't want an HC3, I have little choice but to endure a long wait, (I'm glad I bought the extra warranty).

The lens and sensors are good, I can capture HDV directly to PC, but the tape release mech, door, and mounting plate are a mess. I can't even mount it correctly and go direct to a labtop. A shame. Today there is zero humidity and low 70's, the skys are abosolutely clear. I was planning on replacing one of my scenes for a cleaner plate for matching moving. Shooting distant objects when you have factors like haze and rising heat waves mucking the shot makes it's very hard to track pixels.

This took the wind the right out of my sails. When I get the camera back, I'll see about finishing the piece for the sake of getting the job done.

K. Forman · August 9th, 2006, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter Ferling

Sean, sorry to hear about your Cat. Pet's are family. It's no fun taking the last ride to the vet. My daughter had a bird that nearly lost it's leg. I paid a vet 3x the cost of replacing the bird to fix the leg. Some folks thought I was crazy, until I asked them to tell it to my daughter. It managed a full recovery and live another three-years to the ripe age of 15.

I bought my son a $20 lizard that developed a tumor. We took it to the vet and spent $200 to get the tumor removed, as well as a leg that developed a tumor. A few months later, and I had to put it down because the tumor came back. I couldn't put it through that again, even if I could afford to.

Michael Fossenkemper · August 9th, 2006, 07:10 AM

really sorry to hear about the camera. I've almost had that happen about 20 times. Headphones still on my head and I walkaway from the camera and the whole rig follows me. Hopefully you'll get it back all fixed up and ready for shooting.

Peter Ferling · August 9th, 2006, 10:36 PM

Hey Keith, I understand. It's hard when your little ones have to go through that, it's like watching their whole little world fall apart. All you could think about is the first day when they got their pet.

Michael, according to Best Buy, I'll get it back around the 21st. So, doesn't look good. I'm definitely going to finish it when I get the camera back. I can't let this go to waste. To be fair, I'm going to give myself a five-day time limit to finish. It's only fair, as I'm challenging myself to see what can be done in a weeks time.

Michael Fossenkemper · August 9th, 2006, 11:13 PM

Well be sure to post the final when you get it done. It's such a shame to get so far and then have something like this happen. I know it's not life threatening but still hurts for some reason. Heck, I feel a tear well up when I have a geat shot and I see a drop out on the tape,
and I don't even do this for a living.

(I've got some free time cause i'm rendering video, so I'm posting. I'm doing my whole DVC on my laptop. when I bought it, it seemed like I was on top of the world as far as speed, but with video it seems I'm at the bottom of the pond sucking algae.)

Peter Ferling · August 14th, 2006, 10:07 AM

I changed my mind and submitted 'something'. I know myself all too well, put it on the back burner and I'll get busy doing something else. I wasn't thinking about this as a 'job'. Not good for reputation.

So at least we can end this thread on a positive note, and look forward to DVC#7.

(Besides, I have about three more of these to do as meeting openers for my day job... Arrrrrrrgh!)

Sean McHenry · August 15th, 2006, 09:37 PM

My main dual monitor PC with the cool USB M-Audio I/O box and mixer and Behringer 2031A Truths is WAY slower than my laptop now. The PC is an AMD based Shuttle mini case stuffed with 2GB RAM, 160GB media drive and 80GB OS drive but it's only a 2700 XP+ AMD chip. The Laptop is an AMD 64bit 3.4GHz machine with 100GB HD. It renders SOOOO much faster.

Sad thing is now that I have all that great sound gear and nice dual monitors hooked to the older machine, I do almost all my editing on the laptop now. I still use it for audio and graphics as well as DVD authoring so It's not a total waste but man laptops can really sing these days.

Sean

August 8th, 2006, 09:39 PM	#1
Peter Ferling Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wyomissing, PA Posts: 1,141 Images: 57	Dropping out I've had five wonder days of good shooting and compositing, until tonight. Sadly, my tripod was not secure enough and it let go. The HC1 hit the floor hard, requiring repairs, (and no I don't expect a miracle with the Sony consumer division). I still require more shooting, including capture from todays tape. Alas, I have to give in and I'm hard pressed to spend funds for a non-paying gig. It was fun. Maybe next time. __________________ Pete Ferling http://ferling.net It's never a mistake if you learn something new from it. -------------------------------------------

August 8th, 2006, 10:09 PM	#3
Sean McHenry Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hilliard, Ohio Posts: 1,193	Check to be sure the HC1 is considered BY SONY to be "consumer". If it is, sorry. That has to hurt. If it's not consumer your luck is a bit better. Sony Professional is quite a bit better on repairs. One of the reason I went with the time tested PDX-10 a year or more ago. It's considered the low end of the pro line. I had a cat drop a beautiful mint condition Olympus OM-4 black body 35mm camera once. Nudged it right off the table long lens and all. The lens survived but not so the magnesium body. I hated that cat for years but still cried when I had her put down (years later due to illness, not because of the camera thing). Sean __________________ ‘I don’t know what I’m doing, and I’m shooting on D.V.’ - my hero - David Lynch http://www.DeepBlueEdit.com

August 9th, 2006, 10:36 PM	#8
Peter Ferling Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wyomissing, PA Posts: 1,141 Images: 57	Hey Keith, I understand. It's hard when your little ones have to go through that, it's like watching their whole little world fall apart. All you could think about is the first day when they got their pet. Michael, according to Best Buy, I'll get it back around the 21st. So, doesn't look good. I'm definitely going to finish it when I get the camera back. I can't let this go to waste. To be fair, I'm going to give myself a five-day time limit to finish. It's only fair, as I'm challenging myself to see what can be done in a weeks time. __________________ Pete Ferling http://ferling.net It's never a mistake if you learn something new from it. -------------------------------------------

August 14th, 2006, 10:07 AM	#10
Peter Ferling Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wyomissing, PA Posts: 1,141 Images: 57	I changed my mind and submitted 'something'. I know myself all too well, put it on the back burner and I'll get busy doing something else. I wasn't thinking about this as a 'job'. Not good for reputation. So at least we can end this thread on a positive note, and look forward to DVC#7. (Besides, I have about three more of these to do as meeting openers for my day job... Arrrrrrrgh!) __________________ Pete Ferling http://ferling.net It's never a mistake if you learn something new from it. -------------------------------------------

August 15th, 2006, 09:37 PM	#11
Sean McHenry Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hilliard, Ohio Posts: 1,193	My main dual monitor PC with the cool USB M-Audio I/O box and mixer and Behringer 2031A Truths is WAY slower than my laptop now. The PC is an AMD based Shuttle mini case stuffed with 2GB RAM, 160GB media drive and 80GB OS drive but it's only a 2700 XP+ AMD chip. The Laptop is an AMD 64bit 3.4GHz machine with 100GB HD. It renders SOOOO much faster. Sad thing is now that I have all that great sound gear and nice dual monitors hooked to the older machine, I do almost all my editing on the laptop now. I still use it for audio and graphics as well as DVD authoring so It's not a total waste but man laptops can really sing these days. Sean __________________ ‘I don’t know what I’m doing, and I’m shooting on D.V.’ - my hero - David Lynch http://www.DeepBlueEdit.com

August 9th, 2006, 05:16 AM	#4
Phillip Jackson Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 56	cheap Sony cameras eh! can't handle the floor! hehe 5 days of shooting?!?! sound epic for a short film to me (especially for the DVC's) Don't give up just edit what you got captured and if you been shooting in order then just slap a "To Be Continued..." on the end. Improve your editing skills by editing with only what ya got.

August 9th, 2006, 07:10 AM	#7
Michael Fossenkemper Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NYC, weeee. Posts: 417	really sorry to hear about the camera. I've almost had that happen about 20 times. Headphones still on my head and I walkaway from the camera and the whole rig follows me. Hopefully you'll get it back all fixed up and ready for shooting.

August 9th, 2006, 11:13 PM	#9
Michael Fossenkemper Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NYC, weeee. Posts: 417	Well be sure to post the final when you get it done. It's such a shame to get so far and then have something like this happen. I know it's not life threatening but still hurts for some reason. Heck, I feel a tear well up when I have a geat shot and I see a drop out on the tape, and I don't even do this for a living. (I've got some free time cause i'm rendering video, so I'm posting. I'm doing my whole DVC on my laptop. when I bought it, it seemed like I was on top of the world as far as speed, but with video it seems I'm at the bottom of the pond sucking algae.)