What if it stinks?

Mike Teutsch · August 8th, 2006, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Slonaker

The theme is "The Sun," right? and not "The Moon???" oh...not that kind of embarrassing, huh?

What do you mean? All that light shining off of the moon is from the Sun!

Stink or not, turn in a movie, and stay off of the WALL!

I have not shot a thing! Lorinda-----Help!

Mike

Michael Fossenkemper · August 8th, 2006, 06:35 PM

I'm just playin' around. Of coarse all mom's will love it. It's the one person I can count on to sit through the whole thing with a smile on her face. At least I think it's a smile, or she could be squinting to see the 320X240 size movie.

OK, on the sucky meter for my short, I think it came up from the bottom a few notches today. I chopped and moved and had meetings with my counsel. It's changed once again. 3 min isn't a lot of time to get too complex on the story, at least for a writing hack like myself. Lots of players hit the cutting room floor. I really hate doing that cause it feels like I've just cooked a big juicey steak and then cut half of it off and toss it in the trash.

lesson 254: Shooting isn't like eating steak.

Here is where i've hit a crossroads, I'm asking here cause my counsel isn't talking to me right now. (my dog). Do I try to spell it out, or leave it vague? I wan't everyone to get my dooky story but I don't want to rub their nose in it either. It's a story that needs explaining cause my shots are a little too abstract. (well the cool shots are abstract, the others suck). Is anyone else having this problem?

Sean McHenry · August 8th, 2006, 07:57 PM

Never spoon feed the audience. I speak from long years as a television and movie viewer. I detest stories that give you everything from begining to end. Where's the fun? Maybe that's why I like a good psychological thriller or horror flic. There are more bad horror films than any other genre I think.

Just because there is some guy eating some glop that's supposed to be the brains of his dead previously best friend doesn't make it good. Lofty effects don't make it good. More and more fake blood don't make it good.

A story that lets people think makes a good movie. In a horror film, which has more impact, seeing somebody in cheesy makeup putting a fake axe into the back of some manequin - or - closeup of the villian as he raises the axe, it begins to fall, you see the victims eyes in extreme close up. The eyes open extra wide on the victim, you hear a thud and the eyes slowly close.

I personally am tired of fake bloody scenes. I can imagine a better scene in my head if you stage it so I have to put myself in the place of the victim.

So anyway, never give the audience everything. My two dollars. (adjusted for inflation, up from the 2 cents I had as a kid during the Kennedy eras)

Sean

William Gardner · August 8th, 2006, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean McHenry

More and more fake blood don't make it good.

Fake blood got me through DVC5... :)

Bill

Sean McHenry · August 8th, 2006, 10:02 PM

Drinking it doesn't count.

Ah yes, but proper usage of fake blood is another story.

In the short I just shot, I did an interview with everyone involved and put it all on the DVDs. One of the actresses is a working media professional talent and she says, on why she wanted to work on my little story, there are only three genres in Cincinnati, nudity, horror and vampires. She wanted to do something with a level of depth to it.

While you can fit all that into one film, that doesn't speak well for the originality of the indie film folks in our fair city to the south of Cow-lumbus. I will admit, while I am on the dark side of the road, I won't do a-typical horror. It's been done to death, like Rocky movies.

Sean

Phillip Jackson · August 9th, 2006, 05:10 AM

If it stinks, then that just means you learnt what doesn't work.
so the more crap you make the more you learn! :)

Chris Barcellos · August 13th, 2006, 12:21 AM

I posted my film, and it was quite literally inspired by this thread. I hope noone takes offense.....

Fredrik-Larsson · August 13th, 2006, 05:00 PM

So I still think my movie stinks in selection of shots, recording technique and performance of the actor (e g me :) ). But I decided to complete it anyway and it's pretty funny... well, if you have my bisarre humour... I am looking forward to see if anyone gets what I was thinking of. :)

Chris Barcellos · August 14th, 2006, 10:20 AM

With the entries closed, I can now confide that the title of my film is "Why My Movie About the Sun Stinks". Thanks to all in this thread for the inspiration.

Fredrik-Larsson · August 14th, 2006, 11:02 AM

Chris! lovely idea, looking forward to see it.

Michael Fossenkemper · August 14th, 2006, 11:25 AM

hahaha, that's good. Is a Mom in the short?

Chris Barcellos · August 14th, 2006, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Fossenkemper

hahaha, that's good. Is a Mom in the short?

Just the wife and grandkids....

Mick Isdes · August 14th, 2006, 12:29 PM

If it stinks it just means the dog will eat it.

Adrinn Chellton · August 14th, 2006, 01:37 PM

Mine really stank until I sprayed it with some febreeze, now it just sits there staring at me like it's pissed or something.

Ohh were you all talking about the movies? ok ok mine stinks too!

Fredrik-Larsson · August 14th, 2006, 01:59 PM

ha ha ha.. you guys are all funny.. maybe we should have a DVC stinker award.. ;) but that might not be nice...

August 8th, 2006, 07:57 PM	#18
Sean McHenry Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hilliard, Ohio Posts: 1,193	Never spoon feed the audience. I speak from long years as a television and movie viewer. I detest stories that give you everything from begining to end. Where's the fun? Maybe that's why I like a good psychological thriller or horror flic. There are more bad horror films than any other genre I think. Just because there is some guy eating some glop that's supposed to be the brains of his dead previously best friend doesn't make it good. Lofty effects don't make it good. More and more fake blood don't make it good. A story that lets people think makes a good movie. In a horror film, which has more impact, seeing somebody in cheesy makeup putting a fake axe into the back of some manequin - or - closeup of the villian as he raises the axe, it begins to fall, you see the victims eyes in extreme close up. The eyes open extra wide on the victim, you hear a thud and the eyes slowly close. I personally am tired of fake bloody scenes. I can imagine a better scene in my head if you stage it so I have to put myself in the place of the victim. So anyway, never give the audience everything. My two dollars. (adjusted for inflation, up from the 2 cents I had as a kid during the Kennedy eras) Sean __________________ ‘I don’t know what I’m doing, and I’m shooting on D.V.’ - my hero - David Lynch http://www.DeepBlueEdit.com

August 8th, 2006, 10:02 PM	#20
Sean McHenry Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hilliard, Ohio Posts: 1,193	Drinking it doesn't count. Ah yes, but proper usage of fake blood is another story. In the short I just shot, I did an interview with everyone involved and put it all on the DVDs. One of the actresses is a working media professional talent and she says, on why she wanted to work on my little story, there are only three genres in Cincinnati, nudity, horror and vampires. She wanted to do something with a level of depth to it. While you can fit all that into one film, that doesn't speak well for the originality of the indie film folks in our fair city to the south of Cow-lumbus. I will admit, while I am on the dark side of the road, I won't do a-typical horror. It's been done to death, like Rocky movies. Sean __________________ ‘I don’t know what I’m doing, and I’m shooting on D.V.’ - my hero - David Lynch http://www.DeepBlueEdit.com

August 13th, 2006, 12:21 AM	#22
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	My Film I posted my film, and it was quite literally inspired by this thread. I hope noone takes offense..... __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

August 13th, 2006, 05:00 PM	#23
Fredrik-Larsson Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Malmö, Sweden Posts: 395	So I still think my movie stinks in selection of shots, recording technique and performance of the actor (e g me :) ). But I decided to complete it anyway and it's pretty funny... well, if you have my bisarre humour... I am looking forward to see if anyone gets what I was thinking of. :) __________________ The Russian Captain (upcoming feature) http://trc-movie.blogspot.com/ My movies http://www.larssonfilm.com/

August 14th, 2006, 10:20 AM	#24
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	With the entries closed, I can now confide that the title of my film is "Why My Movie About the Sun Stinks". Thanks to all in this thread for the inspiration. __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

August 8th, 2006, 06:35 PM	#17
Michael Fossenkemper Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NYC, weeee. Posts: 417	I'm just playin' around. Of coarse all mom's will love it. It's the one person I can count on to sit through the whole thing with a smile on her face. At least I think it's a smile, or she could be squinting to see the 320X240 size movie. OK, on the sucky meter for my short, I think it came up from the bottom a few notches today. I chopped and moved and had meetings with my counsel. It's changed once again. 3 min isn't a lot of time to get too complex on the story, at least for a writing hack like myself. Lots of players hit the cutting room floor. I really hate doing that cause it feels like I've just cooked a big juicey steak and then cut half of it off and toss it in the trash. lesson 254: Shooting isn't like eating steak. Here is where i've hit a crossroads, I'm asking here cause my counsel isn't talking to me right now. (my dog). Do I try to spell it out, or leave it vague? I wan't everyone to get my dooky story but I don't want to rub their nose in it either. It's a story that needs explaining cause my shots are a little too abstract. (well the cool shots are abstract, the others suck). Is anyone else having this problem?

August 9th, 2006, 05:10 AM	#21
Phillip Jackson Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 56	If it stinks, then that just means you learnt what doesn't work. so the more crap you make the more you learn! :)

August 14th, 2006, 11:02 AM	#25
Fredrik-Larsson Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Malmö, Sweden Posts: 395	Chris! lovely idea, looking forward to see it. __________________ The Russian Captain (upcoming feature) http://trc-movie.blogspot.com/ My movies http://www.larssonfilm.com/

August 14th, 2006, 11:25 AM	#26
Michael Fossenkemper Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NYC, weeee. Posts: 417	hahaha, that's good. Is a Mom in the short?

August 14th, 2006, 12:29 PM	#28
Mick Isdes Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: HI Posts: 93	If it stinks it just means the dog will eat it. __________________ _________ Mick

August 14th, 2006, 01:37 PM	#29
Adrinn Chellton Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 195	Mine really stank until I sprayed it with some febreeze, now it just sits there staring at me like it's pissed or something. Ohh were you all talking about the movies? ok ok mine stinks too!

August 14th, 2006, 01:59 PM	#30
Fredrik-Larsson Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Malmö, Sweden Posts: 395	ha ha ha.. you guys are all funny.. maybe we should have a DVC stinker award.. ;) but that might not be nice... __________________ The Russian Captain (upcoming feature) http://trc-movie.blogspot.com/ My movies http://www.larssonfilm.com/

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