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Elvis Deane · September 20th, 2005, 11:32 AM

I've got a big list here of things that I need to remember to do the next time I shoot something (1. Get a sound guy), but I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts.

EDIT: For anyone that has trouble seeing it in the page, you can grab the different files directly here:
http://www.astoundingadventures.com/...lash-Large.wmv
http://www.astoundingadventures.com/...lash-Small.wmv
http://www.astoundingadventures.com/...lash-Large.mov
http://www.astoundingadventures.com/...lash-Small.mov

Hugo Pinto · September 20th, 2005, 11:45 AM

Awesome!

Great rhythm, great cuts. The story is very simple and appealing. I loved the investigator's attitude :).

Lighting is very good too, specially in a difficult space as that one seemed to be. Oh, I wish my short could have been more polished now that I see your high quality marks, guys.

Hugo

Michael Wisniewski · September 20th, 2005, 11:58 AM

Yeah you had a good twilight zone/x-files vibe going on, well done and good job on the lighting. I also liked the photographer's attitude, very funny. Cinematography and editing worked fine.

Dialogue audio was decent, but could be improved. Soundtrack music and f/x were good, I especially liked the asian themed music at the end.

Fredrik-Larsson · September 20th, 2005, 12:12 PM

Very nice and "moody" music. Pictures were great and the effect of the "monster" was cool. I know it has been mentioned elsewhere but being able to download the clip is much better than viewing it on a webpage...

Sean McHenry · September 20th, 2005, 12:17 PM

Yes, quite nice. Nice effects too.

I have been telling the other folks, the skill level of this one is really high so far. I hope you guys will like mine. Should be out tomorrow I think.

Very nicely done.

Sean

Bradley L Marlow · September 20th, 2005, 01:28 PM

Elvis!

Terrific!

I'm with these guys. I loved the "feel" of this film and thought you captured this incredibly well. The lighting, coloring and overall look definitely set the mood.

I have never created a "monster" before and would love for you to share how you did that.

Bravo!

Dick Mays · September 20th, 2005, 03:20 PM

I got the feeling I was watching a T.V. show, the lighting was so good, and the acting so matter-of-fact. Very professional looking. Maybe could have used an extra twist, the spooky thing getting the girl, then the guy, then the other guy. I kind of expected a twist at the end.

Sean Buck · September 20th, 2005, 06:31 PM

Hey Elvis. Great job. Your lighting was very good. You blocked the scene very nicely. The f/x were great. I also liked the music. Good choices. Had a C.S.I knockoff type feel. Very high on the list so far. Good luck in the judging.

Jean-Philippe Archibald · September 20th, 2005, 06:40 PM

Wow! This films is really great! Well lit, the editing is perfect, acting is good, too bad, the only girl in this film was dead... :-)

I agree with Dick, I expected a twist in the end, or something to explain the presence of this ghost in this house... but your ghost is really nice! is it real?!? :)

Overall, one of the best so far! Great job!

Elvis Deane · September 20th, 2005, 10:25 PM

Thanks for all the feedback!

I'd like to take credit for framing and lighting, but that was all my brother's doing. I just stepped back and let him and his gaffer (our main actor) do that thing they do.

The cloud stuff was done in particleIllusion, which was nice because I spend a lot of time writing tutorials for the software, but hardly ever get to use it in production. I made a 3D model for the ghost/demon in the shot where it leaps out, and rendered it with sort of an x-ray effect, then gave a blurry glow to it in After Effects.

I'll try to rustle up some live actresses next time :) We were supposed to have one playing my role (the cop in the suit), but she couldn't make it.

Sean McHenry · September 21st, 2005, 08:19 AM

X- Files style...Like the shoes short in DVC2 eh? Love Gillian. Love the concept. Maybe I can get Jodie Foster for my next short? OK, I doubt it too.

Sean

Lorinda Norton · September 21st, 2005, 12:06 PM

Elvis,

I'm dying to see this movie!!! Even with the other links you so kindly provided I still can't bring up a page. I'd better find another computer....fast!

Elvis Deane · September 21st, 2005, 03:22 PM

You can try this backup page on my brother's site. Maybe the different server will work.
http://www.jamesdeane.com/dvchalleng...lash-Large.wmv
http://www.jamesdeane.com/dvchalleng...lash-Small.wmv

Lorinda Norton · September 21st, 2005, 04:09 PM

Yea!!! That one worked! And so did this movie!!! It was well worth the wait.

So polished--professional. Even though many of the images were gruesome (as you meant them to be) they are gorgeous. Love the richness through the cold, dark mood. And your special effects are first rate. (The first time the "monster" did his thing my dog ran out of the room! Guess I had the audio turned up too loud.) Which reminds me: Help an old lady out here--what does the third photographer say after "Maybe we should put out an APB..." ?

Your timing/delivery on the "All right, wiseguy" was great, btw.

Thank you so much for making it possible for me to finally see it, Elvis. You and your brother should be really proud of such fine work.

Elvis Deane · September 21st, 2005, 04:19 PM

Thanks Lorinda, glad you could finally see it. Next time I'm putting up direct links to everything right off the bat.

The line is:

DONALDSON
Looks like we've got some kind of vanishing killer...with claws.

FEINSTEIN
Maybe we should put an APB out on Siegfried and Roy.

September 20th, 2005, 11:32 AM	#1
Elvis Deane New Boot Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Oakville, Ontario Posts: 15	DVC3- "Flash"- Feedback I've got a big list here of things that I need to remember to do the next time I shoot something (1. Get a sound guy), but I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts. EDIT: For anyone that has trouble seeing it in the page, you can grab the different files directly here: http://www.astoundingadventures.com/...lash-Large.wmv http://www.astoundingadventures.com/...lash-Small.wmv http://www.astoundingadventures.com/...lash-Large.mov http://www.astoundingadventures.com/...lash-Small.mov __________________ Elvis Deane! www.astoundingadventures.com Last edited by Elvis Deane; September 20th, 2005 at 10:31 PM. Reason: Added Direct Links

September 20th, 2005, 11:45 AM	#2
Hugo Pinto Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lisbon, Portugal Posts: 92	Awesome! Great rhythm, great cuts. The story is very simple and appealing. I loved the investigator's attitude :). Lighting is very good too, specially in a difficult space as that one seemed to be. Oh, I wish my short could have been more polished now that I see your high quality marks, guys. Hugo Last edited by Hugo Pinto; September 20th, 2005 at 12:44 PM.

September 20th, 2005, 11:58 AM	#3
Michael Wisniewski Wrangler Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Makati, Metro Manila Posts: 2,706 Images: 32	Yeah you had a good twilight zone/x-files vibe going on, well done and good job on the lighting. I also liked the photographer's attitude, very funny. Cinematography and editing worked fine. Dialogue audio was decent, but could be improved. Soundtrack music and f/x were good, I especially liked the asian themed music at the end. __________________ "Ultimately, the most extraordinary thing, in a frame, is a human being." - Martin Scorsese

September 20th, 2005, 12:17 PM	#5
Sean McHenry Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hilliard, Ohio Posts: 1,193	Yes, quite nice. Nice effects too. I have been telling the other folks, the skill level of this one is really high so far. I hope you guys will like mine. Should be out tomorrow I think. Very nicely done. Sean __________________ ‘I don’t know what I’m doing, and I’m shooting on D.V.’ - my hero - David Lynch http://www.DeepBlueEdit.com

September 20th, 2005, 06:40 PM	#9
Jean-Philippe Archibald Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Saguenay, Québec, Canada Posts: 1,051	Wow! This films is really great! Well lit, the editing is perfect, acting is good, too bad, the only girl in this film was dead... :-) I agree with Dick, I expected a twist in the end, or something to explain the presence of this ghost in this house... but your ghost is really nice! is it real?!? :) Overall, one of the best so far! Great job! __________________ Jean-Philippe Archibald http://www.jparchibald.com - http://www.vimeo.com/jparchib

September 20th, 2005, 12:12 PM	#4
Fredrik-Larsson Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Malmö, Sweden Posts: 395	Very nice and "moody" music. Pictures were great and the effect of the "monster" was cool. I know it has been mentioned elsewhere but being able to download the clip is much better than viewing it on a webpage...

September 20th, 2005, 01:28 PM	#6
Bradley L Marlow Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Central Wyoming Posts: 484	Elvis! Terrific! I'm with these guys. I loved the "feel" of this film and thought you captured this incredibly well. The lighting, coloring and overall look definitely set the mood. I have never created a "monster" before and would love for you to share how you did that. Bravo!

September 20th, 2005, 03:20 PM	#7
Dick Mays Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 690	I got the feeling I was watching a T.V. show, the lighting was so good, and the acting so matter-of-fact. Very professional looking. Maybe could have used an extra twist, the spooky thing getting the girl, then the guy, then the other guy. I kind of expected a twist at the end.

September 20th, 2005, 06:31 PM	#8
Sean Buck Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 44	Hey Elvis. Great job. Your lighting was very good. You blocked the scene very nicely. The f/x were great. I also liked the music. Good choices. Had a C.S.I knockoff type feel. Very high on the list so far. Good luck in the judging.

September 20th, 2005, 10:25 PM	#10
Elvis Deane New Boot Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Oakville, Ontario Posts: 15	Thanks for all the feedback! I'd like to take credit for framing and lighting, but that was all my brother's doing. I just stepped back and let him and his gaffer (our main actor) do that thing they do. The cloud stuff was done in particleIllusion, which was nice because I spend a lot of time writing tutorials for the software, but hardly ever get to use it in production. I made a 3D model for the ghost/demon in the shot where it leaps out, and rendered it with sort of an x-ray effect, then gave a blurry glow to it in After Effects. I'll try to rustle up some live actresses next time :) We were supposed to have one playing my role (the cop in the suit), but she couldn't make it. __________________ Elvis Deane! www.astoundingadventures.com

September 21st, 2005, 08:19 AM	#11
Sean McHenry Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hilliard, Ohio Posts: 1,193	X- Files style...Like the shoes short in DVC2 eh? Love Gillian. Love the concept. Maybe I can get Jodie Foster for my next short? OK, I doubt it too. Sean __________________ ‘I don’t know what I’m doing, and I’m shooting on D.V.’ - my hero - David Lynch http://www.DeepBlueEdit.com

September 21st, 2005, 12:06 PM	#12
Lorinda Norton Wrangler Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southwest Idaho, USA Posts: 3,066	Elvis, I'm dying to see this movie!!! Even with the other links you so kindly provided I still can't bring up a page. I'd better find another computer....fast! __________________ Lorinda

September 21st, 2005, 03:22 PM	#13
Elvis Deane New Boot Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Oakville, Ontario Posts: 15	You can try this backup page on my brother's site. Maybe the different server will work. http://www.jamesdeane.com/dvchalleng...lash-Large.wmv http://www.jamesdeane.com/dvchalleng...lash-Small.wmv __________________ Elvis Deane! www.astoundingadventures.com

September 21st, 2005, 04:09 PM	#14
Lorinda Norton Wrangler Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southwest Idaho, USA Posts: 3,066	Yea!!! That one worked! And so did this movie!!! It was well worth the wait. So polished--professional. Even though many of the images were gruesome (as you meant them to be) they are gorgeous. Love the richness through the cold, dark mood. And your special effects are first rate. (The first time the "monster" did his thing my dog ran out of the room! Guess I had the audio turned up too loud.) Which reminds me: Help an old lady out here--what does the third photographer say after "Maybe we should put out an APB..." ? Your timing/delivery on the "All right, wiseguy" was great, btw. Thank you so much for making it possible for me to finally see it, Elvis. You and your brother should be really proud of such fine work. __________________ Lorinda

September 21st, 2005, 04:19 PM	#15
Elvis Deane New Boot Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Oakville, Ontario Posts: 15	Thanks Lorinda, glad you could finally see it. Next time I'm putting up direct links to everything right off the bat. The line is: DONALDSON Looks like we've got some kind of vanishing killer...with claws. FEINSTEIN Maybe we should put an APB out on Siegfried and Roy. __________________ Elvis Deane! www.astoundingadventures.com