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Bill Hamell · July 3rd, 2006, 01:41 PM

Got the MoJo working on the car mount added the safety straps for the mount this morning will work on a safety wire for the camera this after noon.

I am going to switch to the Bogan 241 vacuum cups I think they will be more versatile and easier to use. As it sits it is rock solid and fairly easy to adjust.

I would like some options I used the TA-100 quick release on the cheese plate.
Do you think I should attach the camera directly to the cheese plate?

Bill

EDIT: I added two more images with out the camera or the QR mount.

Mike Teutsch · July 3rd, 2006, 02:04 PM

Bill,

Not sure about the plate, but just mount everything as simply and securely as possible, since it will be locked down during use. Nothing fancy will be needed I would think.

I believe you can get 200hp from that dolly though! :)

Mike

Bill Hamell · July 3rd, 2006, 02:21 PM

Mike,

Thank you for the comment.

The more I think about it I tend to agree the quick-release is not needed.
However it sure does make it nice and easy.

Took the mount for a test drive (no camera till I make the safety strap) no bouncing the strap did not flail around at least up to 45 mph, now I know that it will stay on, I’ll whistle it down the highway to see if it holds up to higher speeds.

Bill

Mike Teutsch · July 3rd, 2006, 02:43 PM

Bill,

With the good cups and a clean surface, I don't think you will have any problems. I've seen them with much less.

Mike

Bill Hamell · July 3rd, 2006, 05:34 PM

Good to know.

I put four new holes in the cheese plate and tomorrow I will get four longer screws then I will be able to bolt the camera right to the plate without the adapter.

Anyone happen to know the thread size and pitch on the bottom of an XL2?
I know they are metric but that's all I know.

Bill

Bill Hamell · July 3rd, 2006, 05:44 PM

ATTENTION ADMIN:

I did not know about the Vehicle Mount Forum would you please move this topic.

Sorry,
Bill

Mike Teutsch · July 3rd, 2006, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Hamell

Good to know.

I put four new holes in the cheese plate and tomorrow I will get four longer screws then I will be able to bolt the camera right to the plate without the adapter.

Anyone happen to know the thread size and pitch on the bottom of an XL2?
I know they are metric but that's all I know.

Bill

Bill,

Actually they are not metric, but are SAE 1/4-20. In other words U.S..

Mike

Bill Hamell · July 3rd, 2006, 06:29 PM

Hear the Buzzer? Wrong answer! :-)

Yes the tripod screw is 1/4" - 20 but the four smaller screws that hold the plate for the TA-100 are not. ;-)

Thanks for helping. :-)
Bill

Joe Barker · July 3rd, 2006, 06:33 PM

Thats an interesting design using the mechanicle locking cups.The one I made uses four 3" non mechanicle suction cups fixed to a platform and the camera sits on an adjustable arm that can be raised or lowered and the camera mount can be tilted back and forth.I have holes in the base platform and hold the rig dowm with straps.Completely differant design but same result. Can you get those mechanicle suction cups in 3'' diameter?They look more secure for when I mount the rig on the car door.

Mike Teutsch · July 3rd, 2006, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Hamell

Hear the Buzzer? Wrong answer! :-)

Yes the tripod screw is 1/4" - 20 but the four smaller screws that hold the plate for the TA-100 are not. ;-)

Thanks for helping. :-)
Bill

That's what I was refering to, did I misunderstand him?

Mike

Bill Hamell · July 3rd, 2006, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Barker

Thats an interesting design using the mechanicle locking cups.The one I made uses four 3" non mechanicle suction cups fixed to a platform and the camera sits on an adjustable arm that can be raised or lowered and the camera mount can be tilted back and forth.I have holes in the base platform and hold the rig dowm with straps.Completely differant design but same result. Can you get those mechanicle suction cups in 3'' diameter?They look more secure for when I mount the rig on the car door.

Thank you Joe, yes they sure do. :-)
Information on the 3" cup
http://www.powrgrip.com/cgi-bin/powr...class=sporting

If you want to buy some.. (Third one down)
Opps wrong url let me find the correct one.

I guess they are no longer selling factory direct, bummer they gave great service. :-(

Bill

Bill Hamell · July 3rd, 2006, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Teutsch

That's what I was refering to, did I misunderstand him?

Mike

Must have, a 6-32 just touches the sides an 8-32 starts to thread then binds, so I'm thinking metric. however typeing this made me think 8-24 I'll try it and see.

Bill

Mike Teutsch · July 4th, 2006, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Hamell

Must have, a 6-32 just touches the sides an 8-32 starts to thread then binds, so I'm thinking metric. however typeing this made me think 8-24 I'll try it and see.

Bill

I was refering to the tripod mount, as I have never used any other. If the others are 8-32 or metric of the same basic size, I think I would used the tripod mount.

Mike

Bill Hamell · July 4th, 2006, 06:56 AM

They are M4 .70 screws for anyone else that will try this with the XL2.
I used ones that were 16mm in lenth with a 3/8" thick cheese plate.

Bill

Bill Hamell · July 4th, 2006, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Teutsch

I was refering to the tripod mount, as I have never used any other. If the others are 8-32 or metric of the same basic size, I think I would used the tripod mount.

Mike

When I drilled the holes for the M4 screws I centered them around one of the cheese plate holes, so I could do this very thing.
Great minds you know!

Bill

July 3rd, 2006, 01:41 PM	#1
Bill Hamell Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mystic Ct. Posts: 477	200HP Dolly ;-) Got the MoJo working on the car mount added the safety straps for the mount this morning will work on a safety wire for the camera this after noon. I am going to switch to the Bogan 241 vacuum cups I think they will be more versatile and easier to use. As it sits it is rock solid and fairly easy to adjust. I would like some options I used the TA-100 quick release on the cheese plate. Do you think I should attach the camera directly to the cheese plate? Bill EDIT: I added two more images with out the camera or the QR mount. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Cinematographers Bring Shadow To Light Last edited by Bill Hamell; July 3rd, 2006 at 02:55 PM.

July 3rd, 2006, 02:04 PM	#2
Mike Teutsch Inner Circle Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Port St. Lucie, Florida Posts: 2,614	Bill, Not sure about the plate, but just mount everything as simply and securely as possible, since it will be locked down during use. Nothing fancy will be needed I would think. I believe you can get 200hp from that dolly though! :) Mike __________________ Chapter one, line one. The BH.

July 3rd, 2006, 02:21 PM	#3
Bill Hamell Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mystic Ct. Posts: 477	Mike, Thank you for the comment. The more I think about it I tend to agree the quick-release is not needed. However it sure does make it nice and easy. Took the mount for a test drive (no camera till I make the safety strap) no bouncing the strap did not flail around at least up to 45 mph, now I know that it will stay on, I’ll whistle it down the highway to see if it holds up to higher speeds. Bill __________________ Cinematographers Bring Shadow To Light

July 3rd, 2006, 02:43 PM	#4
Mike Teutsch Inner Circle Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Port St. Lucie, Florida Posts: 2,614	Bill, With the good cups and a clean surface, I don't think you will have any problems. I've seen them with much less. Mike __________________ Chapter one, line one. The BH.

July 3rd, 2006, 05:34 PM	#5
Bill Hamell Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mystic Ct. Posts: 477	Good to know. I put four new holes in the cheese plate and tomorrow I will get four longer screws then I will be able to bolt the camera right to the plate without the adapter. Anyone happen to know the thread size and pitch on the bottom of an XL2? I know they are metric but that's all I know. Bill __________________ Cinematographers Bring Shadow To Light

July 3rd, 2006, 05:44 PM	#6
Bill Hamell Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mystic Ct. Posts: 477	ATTENTION ADMIN: I did not know about the Vehicle Mount Forum would you please move this topic. Sorry, Bill __________________ Cinematographers Bring Shadow To Light

July 3rd, 2006, 06:29 PM	#8
Bill Hamell Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mystic Ct. Posts: 477	Hear the Buzzer? Wrong answer! :-) Yes the tripod screw is 1/4" - 20 but the four smaller screws that hold the plate for the TA-100 are not. ;-) Thanks for helping. :-) Bill __________________ Cinematographers Bring Shadow To Light

July 3rd, 2006, 06:33 PM	#9
Joe Barker Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Perth WA Australia Posts: 124	Thats an interesting design using the mechanicle locking cups.The one I made uses four 3" non mechanicle suction cups fixed to a platform and the camera sits on an adjustable arm that can be raised or lowered and the camera mount can be tilted back and forth.I have holes in the base platform and hold the rig dowm with straps.Completely differant design but same result. Can you get those mechanicle suction cups in 3'' diameter?They look more secure for when I mount the rig on the car door.

July 4th, 2006, 06:56 AM	#14
Bill Hamell Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mystic Ct. Posts: 477	They are M4 .70 screws for anyone else that will try this with the XL2. I used ones that were 16mm in lenth with a 3/8" thick cheese plate. Bill __________________ Cinematographers Bring Shadow To Light