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fargogogo · October 15th, 2002, 07:16 AM

Has anyone found it necessary to compensate people for appearing in a documentary? What about the person the documentary is about? Is it customary for them to be payed at all?
(I personally think the honor of the whole thing would be reward enough)

Thanks.

Don Berube · October 15th, 2002, 07:44 AM

:Has anyone found it necessary to compensate people for
:appearing in a documentary?
- Not in my experience. Just make sure you have them sign a release form.

:What about the person the documentary is about?
- No, however, you should get their written permission to cover yourself. Also, get them to sign a release form.

:Is it customary for them to be payed at all?
- Well, you should cover their expenses if you require them to travel to you. Feeding them is pretty standard too, at least offer to take them out to dinner after the shoot to thank them.

:(I personally think the honor of the whole thing would be reward
:enough)
- Depends upon how good the documentary is ;-)

Peter Wiley · October 17th, 2002, 09:50 AM

I think that paying documentary participants would raise questions about the integrity of the documentary, if by that one means trying to document "reality." One pays for a performance and a documentary isn't a performance or at least should not be in my view. It would depend a lot on the subject matter and the tone of the piece. If you are aiming for a journalistic product, paying would be out.

An exception might be actors paid to act in obvious dramizations of events for the sake of telling a story visually that would not be possible otherwise.

You might take a look at the chapter on ethics and documentary film making in Barry Hampe's Making Documentary Films and Reality Videos published by Owl Books (Henry Holt, New York). 1997.

Keith Loh · October 17th, 2002, 11:14 AM

No. This is journalism. If you paid them it's contamination.

However...

You should pay reasonable expenses and obviously credit them.

Dan Uneken · October 21st, 2002, 11:26 AM

I recently did a documentary about a breeder of fighting bulls and we had to shoot a lot with bulls running back and forth, so we kept the farmhands (cowboys?) away from their normal jobs. We paid say 1000 $ to compensate for 3 days shooting.
Documentaries can take many forms, and not everybody feels flattered enough appearing on TV to spend a lot of his/her time on your project. Some "documentaries" are also shot more like fiction, with 6 takes per scene and "I know you normally use the Landrover, but could you use your horse instead?" The subject becomes an actor really.

October 15th, 2002, 07:16 AM	#1
fargogogo Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 49	paying documentary participants Has anyone found it necessary to compensate people for appearing in a documentary? What about the person the documentary is about? Is it customary for them to be payed at all? (I personally think the honor of the whole thing would be reward enough) Thanks.

October 15th, 2002, 07:44 AM	#2
Don Berube Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Boston, MA (travel frequently) Posts: 837	:Has anyone found it necessary to compensate people for :appearing in a documentary? - Not in my experience. Just make sure you have them sign a release form. :What about the person the documentary is about? - No, however, you should get their written permission to cover yourself. Also, get them to sign a release form. :Is it customary for them to be payed at all? - Well, you should cover their expenses if you require them to travel to you. Feeding them is pretty standard too, at least offer to take them out to dinner after the shoot to thank them. :(I personally think the honor of the whole thing would be reward :enough) - Depends upon how good the documentary is ;-) __________________ DONALD BERUBE - noisybrain. Productions, LLC Director Of Photography/ Producer/ Consultant http://noisybrain.com/donbio.html CREATE and NETWORK with http://www.bosfcpug.org and also http://fcpugnetwork.org

October 17th, 2002, 11:14 AM	#4
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	No. This is journalism. If you paid them it's contamination. However... You should pay reasonable expenses and obviously credit them. __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

October 21st, 2002, 11:26 AM	#5
Dan Uneken Major Player Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Andalucia, Spain Posts: 301	I recently did a documentary about a breeder of fighting bulls and we had to shoot a lot with bulls running back and forth, so we kept the farmhands (cowboys?) away from their normal jobs. We paid say 1000 $ to compensate for 3 days shooting. Documentaries can take many forms, and not everybody feels flattered enough appearing on TV to spend a lot of his/her time on your project. Some "documentaries" are also shot more like fiction, with 6 takes per scene and "I know you normally use the Landrover, but could you use your horse instead?" The subject becomes an actor really. __________________ Film & TV locations & production Spain http://www.fotofilmvideo.com/

October 17th, 2002, 09:50 AM	#3
Peter Wiley Major Player Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lewisburg PA Posts: 752	I think that paying documentary participants would raise questions about the integrity of the documentary, if by that one means trying to document "reality." One pays for a performance and a documentary isn't a performance or at least should not be in my view. It would depend a lot on the subject matter and the tone of the piece. If you are aiming for a journalistic product, paying would be out. An exception might be actors paid to act in obvious dramizations of events for the sake of telling a story visually that would not be possible otherwise. You might take a look at the chapter on ethics and documentary film making in Barry Hampe's Making Documentary Films and Reality Videos published by Owl Books (Henry Holt, New York). 1997.