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Pascal Grondin · November 25th, 2004, 01:06 PM

Hello,
I'm new to DVD authoring.

I have a video of a theater play wich is around 1h57 min.

I have to make a DVD with a couple of chapters (1 for each scene)

I use tmpgenc plus 2.x and DVD architect 2.0.

What are the settings I should use to have the best result on a standard disc (4.7 gig)?

Thank you all. You're help will be greatly appreciated.

Pascal

Vic Owen · November 25th, 2004, 02:00 PM

I'm not familiar with either of the programs that you mention, but your bit settings should be the same....For a 2-hour video, you should be able to use a video bit rate of 3.5 Mbps with AIFF audio and a bit rate of 4.8 with AC-3 audio. I'd set your max bit rate to nothing higher than 7.8 Mbps.

-vic

Daniel Kohl · November 25th, 2004, 04:12 PM

I think you are too close to the two hour mark. Especially if you intend to have chapters and a menu, these take up space as well. If you can, you should edit at least five minutes out (probably more) so that you have some breathing room. You will have to use the lowest bit rate you have available with your software.

cheers,

Rob Lohman · November 26th, 2004, 03:11 AM

Actually chapter points do not take up any additional room
(it does, but it is so small you wan't notice it on 4.5 GB), ofcourse
a chapter selection screen does take up more space. However
menu's (especially static ones) don't eat that much space.

In DVD Architect you should have the option (if you load the AVI)
to have it encode to fit the disc, otherwise you can do some
calculations (as the others have done):

(4.5 GB * 1000) / 120 = 37.5 MB per minute, or 0.625 MB/sec
which is a bitrate of around 5 mbit/sec for the TOTAL stream
(including video, audio and subtitles). This assumes you do not
have any other massive content like motion menu's etc.

Uncompressed audio (PCM) takes:

48 kHz * 16 bit * 2 channels = 192000 bytes per second or 0.18
mbits/sec. It is probably best to set the average to 4.5 or 4 mbit/s
if your doing the (VBR) encode in TMPGEnc with the max probably
around 7 (otherwise it will get too high I think). I always set the
low at 0.

Pascal Grondin · November 29th, 2004, 08:07 PM

thank you guys,

I followed Rob's advice and encoded it with Architect (fit to disc). It worked fine with my PC, using Intervideo windvd, but when I try to read it with my dvd player, nothing happens. I see the name of the volume but then it says the disc is incompatible.

Any idea? The disc is DVD-R.

Is there a way to make an image(.iso) of the DVD with Architect and then burn it with another software?

Thanks in advance.

Rob Lohman · December 1st, 2004, 05:04 AM

I can't remember from memory if you can do that with DVDA, I
can't check at the moment either.

It sounds like your DVD player is not able to either read -R or is
not to keen on your media. However, this could also be an issue
with your burner and the media. If you can try a +R disc or otherwise
a different brand of -R.

I myself have had quite a few burning and playback problems
with TDK +R discs for example. However, certain other brands
play just fine (Sony, Ricoh etc.).

Compatability between media and burner/player is still far from
optimal in my opinion. Some experimenting might be in order!

Pascal Grondin · December 3rd, 2004, 11:25 AM

Just to let you know,

After doing extensive testing, I found out that the problem was my DVD burner. Fortunately, it is still under warranty. I should have a new one by next tuesday.

Thanks again Rob.

November 25th, 2004, 01:06 PM	#1
Pascal Grondin New Boot Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Quebec Canada Posts: 8	Advice please Hello, I'm new to DVD authoring. I have a video of a theater play wich is around 1h57 min. I have to make a DVD with a couple of chapters (1 for each scene) I use tmpgenc plus 2.x and DVD architect 2.0. What are the settings I should use to have the best result on a standard disc (4.7 gig)? Thank you all. You're help will be greatly appreciated. Pascal

November 25th, 2004, 02:00 PM	#2
Vic Owen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 540	I'm not familiar with either of the programs that you mention, but your bit settings should be the same....For a 2-hour video, you should be able to use a video bit rate of 3.5 Mbps with AIFF audio and a bit rate of 4.8 with AC-3 audio. I'd set your max bit rate to nothing higher than 7.8 Mbps. -vic __________________ -- Vic Owen --

November 25th, 2004, 04:12 PM	#3
Daniel Kohl Contributor Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Posts: 571	I think you are too close to the two hour mark. Especially if you intend to have chapters and a menu, these take up space as well. If you can, you should edit at least five minutes out (probably more) so that you have some breathing room. You will have to use the lowest bit rate you have available with your software. cheers, __________________ Daniel Kohl Frankenstein meets XL1

November 26th, 2004, 03:11 AM	#4
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Actually chapter points do not take up any additional room (it does, but it is so small you wan't notice it on 4.5 GB), ofcourse a chapter selection screen does take up more space. However menu's (especially static ones) don't eat that much space. In DVD Architect you should have the option (if you load the AVI) to have it encode to fit the disc, otherwise you can do some calculations (as the others have done): (4.5 GB * 1000) / 120 = 37.5 MB per minute, or 0.625 MB/sec which is a bitrate of around 5 mbit/sec for the TOTAL stream (including video, audio and subtitles). This assumes you do not have any other massive content like motion menu's etc. Uncompressed audio (PCM) takes: 48 kHz * 16 bit * 2 channels = 192000 bytes per second or 0.18 mbits/sec. It is probably best to set the average to 4.5 or 4 mbit/s if your doing the (VBR) encode in TMPGEnc with the max probably around 7 (otherwise it will get too high I think). I always set the low at 0. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

December 1st, 2004, 05:04 AM	#6
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I can't remember from memory if you can do that with DVDA, I can't check at the moment either. It sounds like your DVD player is not able to either read -R or is not to keen on your media. However, this could also be an issue with your burner and the media. If you can try a +R disc or otherwise a different brand of -R. I myself have had quite a few burning and playback problems with TDK +R discs for example. However, certain other brands play just fine (Sony, Ricoh etc.). Compatability between media and burner/player is still far from optimal in my opinion. Some experimenting might be in order! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

November 29th, 2004, 08:07 PM	#5
Pascal Grondin New Boot Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Quebec Canada Posts: 8	thank you guys, I followed Rob's advice and encoded it with Architect (fit to disc). It worked fine with my PC, using Intervideo windvd, but when I try to read it with my dvd player, nothing happens. I see the name of the volume but then it says the disc is incompatible. Any idea? The disc is DVD-R. Is there a way to make an image(.iso) of the DVD with Architect and then burn it with another software? Thanks in advance.

December 3rd, 2004, 11:25 AM	#7
Pascal Grondin New Boot Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Quebec Canada Posts: 8	Just to let you know, After doing extensive testing, I found out that the problem was my DVD burner. Fortunately, it is still under warranty. I should have a new one by next tuesday. Thanks again Rob.