Even Hollywood gets down and "dirty"

Rick Spilman · May 15th, 2003, 02:49 PM

Didn't you notice that moment of stunned silence, that hushed sense of awe that came over the board, before the rattle of the keyboards picked up again? You might consider that a rough equivalent.

I do love with everybody's high tech equipment that the dolly is sitting on the old stand-by, an apple box. Or a pancake or pancake apple box.

Excuse me, I think I will revert to stunned silence once again.

Wayne Orr · May 15th, 2003, 03:06 PM

"Anything more to add?"

Yeah, here are the three most frequently asked questions on any production:

"Where's the coffee?"
"What's for lunch?"
"When do we wrap?"

If you're the guy (or gal) who can answer all these questions, you are well on your way to becoming a producer. At least a first AD.

Nigel Moore · May 15th, 2003, 03:29 PM

I'm just amazed that anyone can read so much from such a bad picture.

And who's that bird in the grey dress? :-)

Keith Loh · May 15th, 2003, 03:42 PM

Diane Kruger .... Helen
or
Saffron Burrows .... Andromache

Charles Papert · May 15th, 2003, 04:39 PM

It's too hard to tell what is the real deal from the still, but I'm sure that rock has a nice flat top, or maybe it's an optical illusion and the wheel is jacked up on pancakes that are hidden behind the rock. Either way, I'm sure it was a completely solid setup even if it looks funny. You CAN see that the stack of pancakes under the right front wheel are wedged into position and level.

Feature grips have every trick in the book up their sleeves, from super high tech down to amazingly low tech. If a floor squeaks when someone walks on it or the dolly rides over it, chances are they'll be hammering a couple of nails into it before you know it; no more squeaks!

Dylan Couper · May 15th, 2003, 06:33 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Rick Spilman : And what would you suggest?

Most Hollywood execs have probably never heard of the "Iliad". -->>>

(sheepishly kicking ground)
I was going to suggest The Iliad... :(

Rob Lohman · May 20th, 2003, 01:00 PM

I had to laugh on that nail thing, Charles. Thanks for that!

Oh and ofcourse you could answer as well, Wayne. I just
added the word "Charles?" as a little "teaser". Thanks for
replying all.

James David Walley · May 31st, 2003, 04:39 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Rick Spilman : Keith, the bit with the horse happens during the Iliad. The Odyssey is the story of Ulysess travels on his way home to Ithica after the fall of Troy. -->>>

WHAT?????

Obviously, you've never read the Iliad. (The Classic Comix version, maybe, but not Homer's epic.) The poem ends with Hector's funeral. Achilleus's death, the Wooden Horse, and the destruction of Troy happen later, after the Iliad and before the Odyssey. The Iliad is not a "history of the Trojan War," but the specific story of Achilleus's rebellion against the Attic leaders, and his eventual embracing of his destiny.

And, by the way, the Odyssey is the story of Odysseus's travels. I don't know who this "Ulysess" guy is...I think James Joyce wrote a book about him once, though.

;-)

Christopher Go · June 5th, 2003, 12:24 AM

I thought Ulysses was the Roman name for Odysseus? Just wondering...

As for the production information I found your explanation valuable, Wayne. Perhaps we should do something like this on a regular basis, post a production still and have you or Charles tell us what's going on in it. Very insightful for those of us who've never been anywhere near a production, call it the "What's going on in this production" thread.

May 15th, 2003, 03:06 PM	#17
Wayne Orr Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Northridge Ca Posts: 734	"Anything more to add?" Yeah, here are the three most frequently asked questions on any production: "Where's the coffee?" "What's for lunch?" "When do we wrap?" If you're the guy (or gal) who can answer all these questions, you are well on your way to becoming a producer. At least a first AD. __________________ Wayne If it was easy, they'd get a relative to do it.

May 15th, 2003, 03:29 PM	#18
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May 15th, 2003, 03:42 PM	#19
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May 15th, 2003, 04:39 PM	#20
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	It's too hard to tell what is the real deal from the still, but I'm sure that rock has a nice flat top, or maybe it's an optical illusion and the wheel is jacked up on pancakes that are hidden behind the rock. Either way, I'm sure it was a completely solid setup even if it looks funny. You CAN see that the stack of pancakes under the right front wheel are wedged into position and level. Feature grips have every trick in the book up their sleeves, from super high tech down to amazingly low tech. If a floor squeaks when someone walks on it or the dolly rides over it, chances are they'll be hammering a couple of nails into it before you know it; no more squeaks! __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

May 15th, 2003, 06:33 PM	#21
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	<<<-- Originally posted by Rick Spilman : And what would you suggest? Most Hollywood execs have probably never heard of the "Iliad". -->>> (sheepishly kicking ground) I was going to suggest The Iliad... :( __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

May 15th, 2003, 02:49 PM	#16
Rick Spilman Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Jersey City, NJ Posts: 366	Didn't you notice that moment of stunned silence, that hushed sense of awe that came over the board, before the rattle of the keyboards picked up again? You might consider that a rough equivalent. I do love with everybody's high tech equipment that the dolly is sitting on the old stand-by, an apple box. Or a pancake or pancake apple box. Excuse me, I think I will revert to stunned silence once again.

May 20th, 2003, 01:00 PM	#22
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I had to laugh on that nail thing, Charles. Thanks for that! Oh and ofcourse you could answer as well, Wayne. I just added the word "Charles?" as a little "teaser". Thanks for replying all. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 31st, 2003, 04:39 AM	#23
James David Walley New Boot Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Maple Valley, Washington Posts: 16	<<<-- Originally posted by Rick Spilman : Keith, the bit with the horse happens during the Iliad. The Odyssey is the story of Ulysess travels on his way home to Ithica after the fall of Troy. -->>> WHAT????? Obviously, you've never read the Iliad. (The Classic Comix version, maybe, but not Homer's epic.) The poem ends with Hector's funeral. Achilleus's death, the Wooden Horse, and the destruction of Troy happen later, after the Iliad and before the Odyssey. The Iliad is not a "history of the Trojan War," but the specific story of Achilleus's rebellion against the Attic leaders, and his eventual embracing of his destiny. And, by the way, the Odyssey is the story of Odysseus's travels. I don't know who this "Ulysess" guy is...I think James Joyce wrote a book about him once, though. ;-)

June 5th, 2003, 12:24 AM	#24
Christopher Go Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 429	I thought Ulysses was the Roman name for Odysseus? Just wondering... As for the production information I found your explanation valuable, Wayne. Perhaps we should do something like this on a regular basis, post a production still and have you or Charles tell us what's going on in it. Very insightful for those of us who've never been anywhere near a production, call it the "What's going on in this production" thread.