Sony buys Sonic Foundry Assets, including Vegas

Dylan Couper · May 7th, 2003, 08:07 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Bill Ravens : I think you're on to something Dylan. Doesn't that mean that anyone with half a brain should look below the marketing before they shoot their mouth off. -->>>

Yes, but that's not the problem. Most people looking for an NLE have never heard of Vegas Video. I talk to alot of indie film/video people here. They look at me like I'm a newb when I say I edit on Vegas because they haven't heard of it, because SoFo doesn't market it very well (if at all).

It doesn't matter how good your product is if you can't sell it.

Ken Tanaka · May 7th, 2003, 09:14 PM

Does anyone remember what Final Cut Pro was originally named when Apple bought it from Macromedia a few years ago? <g>

David Mintzer · May 9th, 2003, 09:33 PM

I am a long term Vegas user and certainly do like the product above the others I have tried. Having said that, I am beginning to think that wasting time worrying about what Sony does is really a waste of time. Simply put, if Sony were to throw Vegas on the scrap heap it really wouldn't affect my professional career. I would merely chose another NLE and learn to live with it. I am one of the few former Premiere user who really did like aspects of the software. I have used Avid and could learn to live with that. What I am saying is that life goes on and tools will be created and will disappear---what remains constant is our love for video and editing.

Joe Carney · May 11th, 2003, 03:58 PM

>>How do you know that Matsushita manufactures Denon home theater products? I am sure that Denon is using components and assemblies from other companies, including Matsushita's; I think that the relationship ends there. <<

Panasonic owns Denon, Matsushita owns Panasonic. As far as what components they use, I am merely saying that Denon is considered one of the better Home theater brands. They have their own engineering people, just like Pana and JVC. In fact Denon is using tech developed by several well regared US based audio/video chip vendors. They also make one of the best (and expensive) all format DVD players you can currently purchase.
My point was about Sony not being the only quality brand around. Nothing more.

Dylan Couper · May 11th, 2003, 11:26 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Ken Tanaka : Does anyone remember what Final Cut Pro was originally named when Apple bought it from Macromedia a few years ago? <g> -->>>

No, what was it?

Ken Tanaka · May 11th, 2003, 11:45 PM

I don't recall, either. Just as few will recall the "Vegas Video" name if Sony chooses to rebrand it. It will suddenly seeem like a new product.

Joseph George · May 12th, 2003, 02:08 AM

Joe Carney: Panasonic owns Denon, Matsushita owns Panasonic.

Matsushita sells products as Panasonic, Quasar, in the US; in some countries as National. They own over 50% of JVC. Denon is an independent company.

Jeff Donald · May 12th, 2003, 05:03 AM

Denon is owned by D & M Holdings. They operate Denon and Marantz as wholly owned subsidiaries.

Joseph George · May 13th, 2003, 09:50 PM

Isn't Marantz owned by Philips now?

Jeff Donald · May 13th, 2003, 10:50 PM

The latest financials I found were as of 3/31/2003 and at that time D & M Holdings owned Marantz. They reported a little over a billion Yen profit in the first quarter. If Phillips owns Marantz it was sold in the last 45 days.

Joe Carney · May 14th, 2003, 01:39 PM

I guess I'm out of date. Pana used to own Denon at least thats what all the audiophiles told me awhile ago. glad to know they are not, makes them seem even better.

Jeff Donald · May 14th, 2003, 01:53 PM

Joseph, Philips owns about 15% of D & M Holdings. However, they are not the largest shareholder, nor control day to day operations. They got the 15% of the stock when they sold Marantz last year. The sale involved stock swaps, cash etc. and Philips received 15% of D & M for their 49% ownership (stock) in Marantz.

May 7th, 2003, 08:07 PM	#46
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	<<<-- Originally posted by Bill Ravens : I think you're on to something Dylan. Doesn't that mean that anyone with half a brain should look below the marketing before they shoot their mouth off. -->>> Yes, but that's not the problem. Most people looking for an NLE have never heard of Vegas Video. I talk to alot of indie film/video people here. They look at me like I'm a newb when I say I edit on Vegas because they haven't heard of it, because SoFo doesn't market it very well (if at all). It doesn't matter how good your product is if you can't sell it. __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

May 7th, 2003, 09:14 PM	#47
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Does anyone remember what Final Cut Pro was originally named when Apple bought it from Macromedia a few years ago? <g> __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

May 11th, 2003, 11:26 PM	#50
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	<<<-- Originally posted by Ken Tanaka : Does anyone remember what Final Cut Pro was originally named when Apple bought it from Macromedia a few years ago? <g> -->>> No, what was it? __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

May 11th, 2003, 11:45 PM	#51
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	I don't recall, either. Just as few will recall the "Vegas Video" name if Sony chooses to rebrand it. It will suddenly seeem like a new product. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

May 12th, 2003, 05:03 AM	#53
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Denon is owned by D & M Holdings. They operate Denon and Marantz as wholly owned subsidiaries. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 9th, 2003, 09:33 PM	#48
David Mintzer Rextilleon Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pleasantville, NY Posts: 520	I am a long term Vegas user and certainly do like the product above the others I have tried. Having said that, I am beginning to think that wasting time worrying about what Sony does is really a waste of time. Simply put, if Sony were to throw Vegas on the scrap heap it really wouldn't affect my professional career. I would merely chose another NLE and learn to live with it. I am one of the few former Premiere user who really did like aspects of the software. I have used Avid and could learn to live with that. What I am saying is that life goes on and tools will be created and will disappear---what remains constant is our love for video and editing.

May 11th, 2003, 03:58 PM	#49
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	>>How do you know that Matsushita manufactures Denon home theater products? I am sure that Denon is using components and assemblies from other companies, including Matsushita's; I think that the relationship ends there. << Panasonic owns Denon, Matsushita owns Panasonic. As far as what components they use, I am merely saying that Denon is considered one of the better Home theater brands. They have their own engineering people, just like Pana and JVC. In fact Denon is using tech developed by several well regared US based audio/video chip vendors. They also make one of the best (and expensive) all format DVD players you can currently purchase. My point was about Sony not being the only quality brand around. Nothing more.

May 12th, 2003, 02:08 AM	#52
Joseph George Permanently Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 265	Joe Carney: Panasonic owns Denon, Matsushita owns Panasonic. Matsushita sells products as Panasonic, Quasar, in the US; in some countries as National. They own over 50% of JVC. Denon is an independent company.

May 13th, 2003, 09:50 PM	#54
Joseph George Permanently Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 265	Isn't Marantz owned by Philips now?

May 13th, 2003, 10:50 PM	#55
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	The latest financials I found were as of 3/31/2003 and at that time D & M Holdings owned Marantz. They reported a little over a billion Yen profit in the first quarter. If Phillips owns Marantz it was sold in the last 45 days. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 14th, 2003, 01:39 PM	#56
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	I guess I'm out of date. Pana used to own Denon at least thats what all the audiophiles told me awhile ago. glad to know they are not, makes them seem even better.

May 14th, 2003, 01:53 PM	#57
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Joseph, Philips owns about 15% of D & M Holdings. However, they are not the largest shareholder, nor control day to day operations. They got the 15% of the stock when they sold Marantz last year. The sale involved stock swaps, cash etc. and Philips received 15% of D & M for their 49% ownership (stock) in Marantz. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors