News posts from 2003 Q2

Rick Spilman · May 11th, 2003, 01:25 PM

Ah, no. I spent a few minutes trying to figure out what to do with Moviemaker, said screw it, and edited a 30 second clip with Vegas featuring my kids. As I said, I have the toys so why not use them. Not the greatest clip but the kids are kinda cure.

www.spilmanlorentz.com/Mday.htm

Michael Wisniewski · May 11th, 2003, 02:57 PM

I was happy to see that Matrox will be releasing budget Parhelia cards, since the current Parhelia is overkill for my needs. The cards are scheduled to be out at the end of May 2003.

FYI: The older Matrox cards only support DirectX6 - the new ones support DirectX 8.1

Joe Carney · May 11th, 2003, 03:43 PM

fyi, while these cards don't offer hardware directX9 support or fast game speed... they are the only video cards offering 10bit color on the desktop. that goes for ATI and Nvidias' latest too.

Charles Papert · May 11th, 2003, 05:31 PM

Great job Rick! I'll bet that went over well!

The whole Moviemaker thing seemed a bit convoluted for most people. We were just asked to make the generic clips but I didn't know it was going to require people to go through all those steps to send them.

Rick Spilman · May 11th, 2003, 06:31 PM

I thought the clips were great, by the way. In my case it seemed foolish to use someone's clips when I had more than enough of my own.

I also thought that the process could have been far more automated. It appeared that one of the underlying goals was to expose folks to Moviemaker. Not sure that that was entirely successful. I feel perfectly comfortable with video editing software and I was confused by the process.

Alex Knappenberger · May 11th, 2003, 06:42 PM

Rick, obviously this is a carried over conversation from another post, or something, but you are having trouble with editing or something? I'd personally suggest forgetting windows moviemaker, and going for the real stuff, like Vegas, like you did, once you get used to a (sorry for saying this) crappy program, like windows moviemaker, it will be hard to move up to better stuff.

Anyway, yeah them clips are cool, I wish I would of thought of that. :D

Michael Wisniewski · May 11th, 2003, 10:59 PM

Do you know if any of the new Nvidia and ATI cards are as good in terms of 2D performance and most importantly, display quality?

I mainly like the Matrox cards for the quality of their display, especially on my Sony Trinitron monitor. I just need basic 3D acceleration.

Rick Spilman · May 12th, 2003, 06:41 AM

Ah, no Alex I am not having problems editing. I followed the I-Film set of instructions which suggest you use "Moviemaker". I looked at "Moviemaker" for a minute or two, said this is silly and went ahead and cut a short clip on Vegas.

Jeff Donald · May 12th, 2003, 09:50 AM

New York Times article quotes computer industry veterans that Microsoft and HP are borrowing too heavily on Apples designs. Microsoft's preview of Longhorn, their new OS due in 2005, includes many features Apple introduced in OS X in 2001.

Rick Spilman · May 12th, 2003, 10:50 AM

So what else is new?

Hasn't Apple's function always been to innovate so the PC world can copy it 6 months later?

Charles Papert · May 12th, 2003, 02:59 PM

As part of the regular Instant Films festival (www.instantfilms.tv), we are initiating the "Instant Documentary" this weekend. The Instant Films weekend involves 8 groups making short films over 48 hours, culminating with a gala screening in Los Angeles on Sunday night; the documentary of the weekend will also be screened on Sunday.

We need LA based camera crews to cover the event on Saturday and Sunday (the 17th and 18th). If you have a solid DV package and have experience shooting documentary/news and would like to participate in this exciting event, please email me at charles@instantfilms.tv with an equipment list and resume (or a description of your experience level). There is no pay, as is the case with the filmmakers who participate, but it is a lot of fun to be a part of.

Check out this article on todays CNN.com homepage, also seen in the Hollywood Reporter:

John Threat · May 13th, 2003, 06:02 AM

i have the full 128mb card. It's really nice for video editing as it drives two LCD monitors and a NTSC monitor.

Jaime Valles · May 13th, 2003, 09:22 AM

Does anyone know if these video cards work on a Power Mac?
Both the budget as well as the full-out Parhelia?
Thanks!

Andrew Petrie · May 14th, 2003, 07:09 AM

I run a Sapphire Radeon 9700 128mb card. VGA, TV out, and another multi-use output that can be used on another VGA display with an adapter (or plasma, tv, etc..)

Sapphire makes the ATI cards you see in stores. I decided against the Pro version, at about $150 more as the Sapphire's GPU and memory timings are unlocked. It easily handles any speed increases I give it.

Great for gaming, great TV out quality compared to most other offerings, and an extra output if I decide on two monitors for editing later.

Nigel Moore · May 15th, 2003, 06:21 AM

IMO, the most convincing argument in favour of these new cards over the Parhelia is that they support AGP 8x rather than just AGP 4x.

Against them is the lower memory (only 64MB) and memory bandwidth, and the fact that they won't support the After Effects WYSIWYG plug-in.

The P650 will run two monitors, while the P750 will run three. A TV can be one of the monitors.

Matrox seems to be pushing the P750 more towards DV, with the P650 towards business desktops.

A full comparison is here: http://www.matrox.com/mga/products/c...s_parhelia.cfm

For me, it's a tough call between the Parhelia (128/256MB RAM, AE plug-in) and the P750 (AGP 8x), but I have to admit that the faster AGP port speed is more tempting.

If Matrox develops drivers for the Mac, it will be a first!

May 11th, 2003, 02:57 PM	#47
Michael Wisniewski Wrangler Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Makati, Metro Manila Posts: 2,706 Images: 32	New budget Matrox Parhelia cards I was happy to see that Matrox will be releasing budget Parhelia cards, since the current Parhelia is overkill for my needs. The cards are scheduled to be out at the end of May 2003. FYI: The older Matrox cards only support DirectX6 - the new ones support DirectX 8.1

May 11th, 2003, 05:31 PM	#49
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	Great job Rick! I'll bet that went over well! The whole Moviemaker thing seemed a bit convoluted for most people. We were just asked to make the generic clips but I didn't know it was going to require people to go through all those steps to send them. __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

May 12th, 2003, 09:50 AM	#54
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	New York Times article on Apple and Microsoft New York Times article quotes computer industry veterans that Microsoft and HP are borrowing too heavily on Apples designs. Microsoft's preview of Longhorn, their new OS due in 2005, includes many features Apple introduced in OS X in 2001. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 12th, 2003, 02:59 PM	#56
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	Documentary shooters needed in LA this Saturday... As part of the regular Instant Films festival (www.instantfilms.tv), we are initiating the "Instant Documentary" this weekend. The Instant Films weekend involves 8 groups making short films over 48 hours, culminating with a gala screening in Los Angeles on Sunday night; the documentary of the weekend will also be screened on Sunday. We need LA based camera crews to cover the event on Saturday and Sunday (the 17th and 18th). If you have a solid DV package and have experience shooting documentary/news and would like to participate in this exciting event, please email me at charles@instantfilms.tv with an equipment list and resume (or a description of your experience level). There is no pay, as is the case with the filmmakers who participate, but it is a lot of fun to be a part of. Check out this article on todays CNN.com homepage, also seen in the Hollywood Reporter: __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

May 14th, 2003, 07:09 AM	#59
Andrew Petrie Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 484	I run a Sapphire Radeon 9700 128mb card. VGA, TV out, and another multi-use output that can be used on another VGA display with an adapter (or plasma, tv, etc..) Sapphire makes the ATI cards you see in stores. I decided against the Pro version, at about $150 more as the Sapphire's GPU and memory timings are unlocked. It easily handles any speed increases I give it. Great for gaming, great TV out quality compared to most other offerings, and an extra output if I decide on two monitors for editing later. __________________ Andrew \| Canon XL1s, ME66, Vinten Vision 3, GlideCam V16 (for sale!)

May 11th, 2003, 01:25 PM	#46
Rick Spilman Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Jersey City, NJ Posts: 366	Ah, no. I spent a few minutes trying to figure out what to do with Moviemaker, said screw it, and edited a 30 second clip with Vegas featuring my kids. As I said, I have the toys so why not use them. Not the greatest clip but the kids are kinda cure. www.spilmanlorentz.com/Mday.htm

May 11th, 2003, 03:43 PM	#48
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	fyi, while these cards don't offer hardware directX9 support or fast game speed... they are the only video cards offering 10bit color on the desktop. that goes for ATI and Nvidias' latest too.

May 11th, 2003, 06:31 PM	#50
Rick Spilman Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Jersey City, NJ Posts: 366	I thought the clips were great, by the way. In my case it seemed foolish to use someone's clips when I had more than enough of my own. I also thought that the process could have been far more automated. It appeared that one of the underlying goals was to expose folks to Moviemaker. Not sure that that was entirely successful. I feel perfectly comfortable with video editing software and I was confused by the process.

May 11th, 2003, 06:42 PM	#51
Alex Knappenberger High School Student Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canton, Ohio, USA Posts: 609	Rick, obviously this is a carried over conversation from another post, or something, but you are having trouble with editing or something? I'd personally suggest forgetting windows moviemaker, and going for the real stuff, like Vegas, like you did, once you get used to a (sorry for saying this) crappy program, like windows moviemaker, it will be hard to move up to better stuff. Anyway, yeah them clips are cool, I wish I would of thought of that. :D

May 11th, 2003, 10:59 PM	#52
Michael Wisniewski Wrangler Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Makati, Metro Manila Posts: 2,706 Images: 32	Do you know if any of the new Nvidia and ATI cards are as good in terms of 2D performance and most importantly, display quality? I mainly like the Matrox cards for the quality of their display, especially on my Sony Trinitron monitor. I just need basic 3D acceleration.

May 12th, 2003, 06:41 AM	#53
Rick Spilman Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Jersey City, NJ Posts: 366	Ah, no Alex I am not having problems editing. I followed the I-Film set of instructions which suggest you use "Moviemaker". I looked at "Moviemaker" for a minute or two, said this is silly and went ahead and cut a short clip on Vegas.

May 12th, 2003, 10:50 AM	#55
Rick Spilman Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Jersey City, NJ Posts: 366	So what else is new? Hasn't Apple's function always been to innovate so the PC world can copy it 6 months later?

May 13th, 2003, 06:02 AM	#57
John Threat Major Player Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York Posts: 322	i have the full 128mb card. It's really nice for video editing as it drives two LCD monitors and a NTSC monitor.

May 13th, 2003, 09:22 AM	#58
Jaime Valles Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: New York City, NY Posts: 316	Does anyone know if these video cards work on a Power Mac? Both the budget as well as the full-out Parhelia? Thanks!

May 15th, 2003, 06:21 AM	#60
Nigel Moore Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Switzerland Posts: 358	IMO, the most convincing argument in favour of these new cards over the Parhelia is that they support AGP 8x rather than just AGP 4x. Against them is the lower memory (only 64MB) and memory bandwidth, and the fact that they won't support the After Effects WYSIWYG plug-in. The P650 will run two monitors, while the P750 will run three. A TV can be one of the monitors. Matrox seems to be pushing the P750 more towards DV, with the P650 towards business desktops. A full comparison is here: http://www.matrox.com/mga/products/c...s_parhelia.cfm For me, it's a tough call between the Parhelia (128/256MB RAM, AE plug-in) and the P750 (AGP 8x), but I have to admit that the faster AGP port speed is more tempting. If Matrox develops drivers for the Mac, it will be a first! __________________ _________________ Time flies like an arrow Fruit flies like a banana