News posts from 2002 at DVinfo.net

Ken Tanaka · January 17th, 2002, 03:37 PM

Just a note to let folks know that IBM has recently released its 120Gb Deskstar drives. These are Ultra ATA drives with a 7200 rpm rotational speed, yadda, yadda, yadda. Suffice it to say that these hummers are very big and more than fast enough to keep pace with your DV capture/edit needs. I've just replaced a 75Gb Deskstar with one of these 120Gb drives in my Mac G4 and I'm in hog-heaven. (Anecdotal speed comparison: it took 3.5 hrs to offload approx. 50Gb from the old 75Gb to an external Maxtor Firewire drive. It took only 2 hrs to reload the same files to the new 120Gb drive.)

I believe that the drives have an actual capaacity of around 135Gb but, nominally, it works out to an effective capacity of 120Gb.

The kicker: these drives will only set you back about $300! Geez, I'm old enough to remember when a 10Mb hard disk for an IBM AT cost $700.

The drives seem scarce right now (gee, I wonder why). I found mine at newegg.com.

Wayde Gardner · January 17th, 2002, 03:56 PM

I know what you mean. My first Mac was a 512k and then a Mac Plus. I drove to Sherman (Tx about 1 hr) to buy a 40MB SCSI driver for 499.00!

Then... paid around 4700.00 for a IIci WOW! 8 bit color with 8MB of RAM and a 100MB HD. What will I do with all that space!

We are the Jetsons

Vic Owen · January 17th, 2002, 07:15 PM

Once I finally join the G4+ club, I'll have to look for one of the new drives. BTW, I still have my SE30 that I paid aroung 4K for -- can't bear to part with it! Still works, as advertised, but mostly collects dust.

Cheers, Vic

Wayde Gardner · January 17th, 2002, 07:43 PM

Yo, Vic! Wanna buy a copy of Claris Works 1.0... cheap? How about MacDraw or MacWrite! Okay, I'll throw in a copy of MacPaint and Dark Castle for free.

Man, I'm feelin' old.

Vic Owen · January 17th, 2002, 09:32 PM

Ha! I recently found some software that I used on my Apple IIGS and IIc. Maybe they'll make a comeback!

Uh-oh...I think we got off-topic.....

Vic

katelins · January 21st, 2002, 02:04 AM

I want two now! But I'm not sure I can justify the cost right now, oh well. I'll have to wait a bit before owning a 240GB RAID 0 storage system...

January 21st, 2002, 07:11 PM

I have read about one potential problem with these drives - IBM recommends limiting their use to 333 hours per month. That is power-on use. See the following pdf:
http://www.storage.ibm.com/hdd/desk/ds120gxp.pdf

Not exactly confidence building, is it...

SD-Diver

Ken Tanaka · January 21st, 2002, 09:26 PM

No, it's not "confidence-building". Well, mine's installed and running fine. I'll report any trouble here.

Thanks for noticing this very odd recommendation.

Adrian Douglas · January 23rd, 2002, 06:51 AM

So if you install two does it mean your NLE system will spontaneously combust and a huge winged demon will appear from the depths of Hades bringing forth an army of grey suit wearing, company song singing IBM execs.

Ken Tanaka · January 23rd, 2002, 10:21 AM

...after 333 hrs.

Whew, I guess now we know why you call yourself "afterburner". <g>

Vic Owen · January 23rd, 2002, 10:45 AM

120GB? Ha! My bladder has enough trouble handling 60GB drives!

Cheers, Vic

Adrian Douglas · January 24th, 2002, 01:06 AM

HA HA, I never thought of it like that.

I actually spent 8 years in the Australian Air Force working on F1-11's and F/A-18's and Afterburner just sounded catchy.

Ron Pfister · January 24th, 2002, 04:16 AM

Hello all!

I just wanted to add that 333 hours a month translates into 20.81 16-hour days of drive use. I don't know who can take more editing than that?!? Oops, but I forgot about the all-night rendering jobs ;-)

There's another bit of interesting information concerning the retired IBM 75GXP series of HDs (from <http://www.arstechnica.com>):

Deskstar 75GXP lawsuit: A class action lawsuit has been filed against IBM regarding their Deskstar 75GXP drive. The suit alleges that: "IBM has represented to plaintiff and members of the class that the Deskstar 75GXP is a safe and reliable disk drive for accessing and storing data on a personal computer. To the contrary, due to a uniform defect in the design and/or manufacturing process, when such a defect manifests the Deskstar 75GXP 'crashes' without warning and results in the irretrievable loss of data and programs stored on the disk.

You have been warned ;-)

Cheers,

Ron

Ken Tanaka · February 7th, 2002, 08:06 PM

According to a news brief on 2-pop Sony is preparing to release two news models of High-Def cameras, one for studio and one for more mobile use. While pricing and availability is not yet annouced (probably at April's NAB show) note the relatively low weight of these cams!

http://www.2-pop.com/brief/mainv/0,7220,33062,00.html

Nathan Gifford · February 11th, 2002, 10:16 AM

Chris on NPR this morning they said that a new CCD was going to be introduced at the convention interpreting color at various depths within the CCD. That appears to suggest a possible 3-CCD color resolution in a single CCD system.

Just see what you think.

Nathan Gifford

January 17th, 2002, 03:37 PM	#1
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	News posts from 2002 Just a note to let folks know that IBM has recently released its 120Gb Deskstar drives. These are Ultra ATA drives with a 7200 rpm rotational speed, yadda, yadda, yadda. Suffice it to say that these hummers are very big and more than fast enough to keep pace with your DV capture/edit needs. I've just replaced a 75Gb Deskstar with one of these 120Gb drives in my Mac G4 and I'm in hog-heaven. (Anecdotal speed comparison: it took 3.5 hrs to offload approx. 50Gb from the old 75Gb to an external Maxtor Firewire drive. It took only 2 hrs to reload the same files to the new 120Gb drive.) I believe that the drives have an actual capaacity of around 135Gb but, nominally, it works out to an effective capacity of 120Gb. The kicker: these drives will only set you back about $300! Geez, I'm old enough to remember when a 10Mb hard disk for an IBM AT cost $700. The drives seem scarce right now (gee, I wonder why). I found mine at newegg.com. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

January 17th, 2002, 03:56 PM	#2
Wayde Gardner Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Frisco, Tx Posts: 85	Drive prices I know what you mean. My first Mac was a 512k and then a Mac Plus. I drove to Sherman (Tx about 1 hr) to buy a 40MB SCSI driver for 499.00! Then... paid around 4700.00 for a IIci WOW! 8 bit color with 8MB of RAM and a 100MB HD. What will I do with all that space! We are the Jetsons __________________ Wayde Gardner Right Field Films www.rightfieldfilms.com

January 21st, 2002, 07:11 PM	#7
sd-diver Posts: n/a	333 hour/month limit?? I have read about one potential problem with these drives - IBM recommends limiting their use to 333 hours per month. That is power-on use. See the following pdf: http://www.storage.ibm.com/hdd/desk/ds120gxp.pdf Not exactly confidence building, is it... SD-Diver

January 21st, 2002, 09:26 PM	#8
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Startling No, it's not "confidence-building". Well, mine's installed and running fine. I'll report any trouble here. Thanks for noticing this very odd recommendation. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

January 23rd, 2002, 06:51 AM	#9
Adrian Douglas Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Chigasaki, Japan. Posts: 1,660	So if you install two does it mean your NLE system will spontaneously combust and a huge winged demon will appear from the depths of Hades bringing forth an army of grey suit wearing, company song singing IBM execs. __________________ Adrian DVInfo.net Search for quick answers Where to buy? From the best in the business...DVInfo.net sponsors

January 17th, 2002, 07:15 PM	#3
Vic Owen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 540	Once I finally join the G4+ club, I'll have to look for one of the new drives. BTW, I still have my SE30 that I paid aroung 4K for -- can't bear to part with it! Still works, as advertised, but mostly collects dust. Cheers, Vic

January 17th, 2002, 07:43 PM	#4
Wayde Gardner Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Frisco, Tx Posts: 85	Yo, Vic! Wanna buy a copy of Claris Works 1.0... cheap? How about MacDraw or MacWrite! Okay, I'll throw in a copy of MacPaint and Dark Castle for free. Man, I'm feelin' old.

January 17th, 2002, 09:32 PM	#5
Vic Owen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 540	Ha! I recently found some software that I used on my Apple IIGS and IIc. Maybe they'll make a comeback! Uh-oh...I think we got off-topic..... Vic

January 21st, 2002, 02:04 AM	#6
katelins Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 31	I want two now! But I'm not sure I can justify the cost right now, oh well. I'll have to wait a bit before owning a 240GB RAID 0 storage system...

January 23rd, 2002, 10:21 AM	#10
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	...after 333 hrs. Whew, I guess now we know why you call yourself "afterburner". <g> __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

January 23rd, 2002, 10:45 AM	#11
Vic Owen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 540	120GB? Ha! My bladder has enough trouble handling 60GB drives! Cheers, Vic

January 24th, 2002, 01:06 AM	#12
Adrian Douglas Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Chigasaki, Japan. Posts: 1,660	HA HA, I never thought of it like that. I actually spent 8 years in the Australian Air Force working on F1-11's and F/A-18's and Afterburner just sounded catchy. __________________ Adrian DVInfo.net Search for quick answers Where to buy? From the best in the business...DVInfo.net sponsors

January 24th, 2002, 04:16 AM	#13
Ron Pfister Major Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Basel area, Switzerland Posts: 285	333 / 16 = 20.81 Hello all! I just wanted to add that 333 hours a month translates into 20.81 16-hour days of drive use. I don't know who can take more editing than that?!? Oops, but I forgot about the all-night rendering jobs ;-) There's another bit of interesting information concerning the retired IBM 75GXP series of HDs (from <http://www.arstechnica.com>): Deskstar 75GXP lawsuit: A class action lawsuit has been filed against IBM regarding their Deskstar 75GXP drive. The suit alleges that: "IBM has represented to plaintiff and members of the class that the Deskstar 75GXP is a safe and reliable disk drive for accessing and storing data on a personal computer. To the contrary, due to a uniform defect in the design and/or manufacturing process, when such a defect manifests the Deskstar 75GXP 'crashes' without warning and results in the irretrievable loss of data and programs stored on the disk. You have been warned ;-) Cheers, Ron __________________ Ronald P. Pfister halimedia - digital solutions and services www.halimedia.com

February 7th, 2002, 08:06 PM	#14
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	HD Is Getting Closer According to a news brief on 2-pop Sony is preparing to release two news models of High-Def cameras, one for studio and one for more mobile use. While pricing and availability is not yet annouced (probably at April's NAB show) note the relatively low weight of these cams! http://www.2-pop.com/brief/mainv/0,7220,33062,00.html __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

February 11th, 2002, 10:16 AM	#15
Nathan Gifford Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Tickfaw, LA Posts: 1,217	Hey Chris is there going to be a new CCD? Chris on NPR this morning they said that a new CCD was going to be introduced at the convention interpreting color at various depths within the CCD. That appears to suggest a possible 3-CCD color resolution in a single CCD system. Just see what you think. Nathan Gifford