Vertical video is now a real thing at DVinfo.net

Andrew Smith · April 29th, 2019, 10:28 PM

Samsung has just released a new TV that can orientate vertically to allow millennial mobile phone users to watch their videos the (cough) right way up.

See https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/29/1...te-millennials

Price is about $1600USD and units will go on sale in Korea.

Andrew

Colin McDonald · April 30th, 2019, 04:37 AM

If it’s anything like the Samsung 3D TV I bought it will be self limiting. The motherboard failed at 3 months (taking all the recordings it had made on an external HD with it due to the encryption) and the screen a week after the warranty expired. Can’t think of a more appropriate manufacturer to support the cause of vertical video.

I note the Sky News iOS app now uses a square format, probably because of so much UGC inappropriately acquired in vertical orientation.

David Barnett · April 30th, 2019, 08:01 AM

Interesting. Probably is needed at some point, the youth seem to spend so much time on their phones. I wonder if some even watch a TV all that much.

Boyd Ostroff · April 30th, 2019, 10:07 AM

My daughter and son in law are in their mid 30's and spend plenty of time watching TV, also using a laptop in landscape mode. But their phones (and iPads to a lesser extent) are their primary form of connectivity, and they shoot virtually all video in portrait mode.

I really don't have a problem with this at all. Their composition is generally quite good and the vertical format works well in many cases. Aside from that, it's just easier to hold the phone in portrait orientation.

Remember the old days here at DVinfo? People would get into very heated debates about 4:3 vs 16:9. ;-)

Jeff Pulera · April 30th, 2019, 11:33 AM

If humans were meant to view things vertically, our eyes would be situated one above the other...just saying.

Peer Landa · May 1st, 2019, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Pulera

If humans were meant to view things vertically, our eyes would be situated one above the other...just saying.

Exactly:

-- peer

Andrew Smith · May 1st, 2019, 04:32 AM

It's obvious that 'vertical video' is just too narrow to be of use.

16:9 on the other hand is what we've always been doing with our central content but with some extra stuff at the sides. The world is finally trimming off these superfluous extra bits and coming back to 4:3 video on social media. It's the reality test for being effective.

Andrew

Brian Drysdale · May 1st, 2019, 06:54 AM

Just to add that the vertical screen is used for advertising displays at various locations and on the screens at live events. However, for other forms it's pretty limiting.as a video aspect ratio, 4 x 3 makes more sense.

Boyd Ostroff · May 1st, 2019, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Drysdale

as a video aspect ratio, 4 x 3 makes more sense.

Until you want to watch a 2.35:1 film, which looks like a band-aid across the middle of the screen. This looks really bad on an iPad, for example.

Brian Drysdale · May 2nd, 2019, 12:50 AM

You need a big screen for scope films, either that or hold the iPad 6 inches in front of your face.

Peer Landa · May 2nd, 2019, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Smith

It's obvious that 'vertical video' is just too narrow to be of use.

The vertical video "syndrome" is just a fad that's derived from laziness/convenience since people can shoot phone videos with only one hand. Simple as that.

-- peer

Andrew Smith · May 4th, 2019, 02:32 AM

I do wonder if the necessary use of vertical video in TV news stories (eg the only footage of a crash or explosion) somehow legitimises it as a type of video. On the other hand it's one of those things that can scream 'amateur' when compared to professional work.

Andrew

Brian Drysdale · May 8th, 2019, 12:22 AM

Seems someone is marketing a vertical TV.

https://www.redsharknews.com/post/it...-a-vertical-tv

Boyd Ostroff · May 8th, 2019, 05:36 AM

Isn't that the same product that this thread was originally about? ;-)

Remember, back in the day, when "vertical video" was a "real thing" for computers? We thought it was so cool to see a letter sized page in portrait mode. And it was also cutting-edge that it had a white background like a sheet of paper. Maybe Xerox started this, and Apple jumped on board with several companies making vertical screens. Then there were screens that could rotate between portrait and landscape view. That was long before anyone had a smart phone.

I don't shoot vertical video and probably never will, but it doesn't bother me that it exists. It's funny how this seems to really offend some of you guys. If you think of video as art, then why shouldn't the artist have the freedom to choose the canvas size they want? Or do you think that Rembrandt shouldn't have painted portraits?

Brian Drysdale · May 9th, 2019, 01:48 AM

So it seems.

Vertical screens are seen in 2001 for the iPad type screens used on the Discovery.

https://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/...ck-invent-ipad

I'm not sure that Kubrick invented the tablet screens, he had good designers working on that film.

April 29th, 2019, 10:28 PM	#1
Andrew Smith Equal Opportunity Offender Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,066	Vertical video is now a real thing Samsung has just released a new TV that can orientate vertically to allow millennial mobile phone users to watch their videos the (cough) right way up. See https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/29/1...te-millennials Price is about $1600USD and units will go on sale in Korea. Andrew Attached Thumbnails

April 30th, 2019, 04:37 AM	#2
Colin McDonald Trustee Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 1,546	Re: Vertical video is now a real thing If it’s anything like the Samsung 3D TV I bought it will be self limiting. The motherboard failed at 3 months (taking all the recordings it had made on an external HD with it due to the encryption) and the screen a week after the warranty expired. Can’t think of a more appropriate manufacturer to support the cause of vertical video. I note the Sky News iOS app now uses a square format, probably because of so much UGC inappropriately acquired in vertical orientation.

April 30th, 2019, 08:01 AM	#3
David Barnett Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Philly, PA Posts: 951	Re: Vertical video is now a real thing Interesting. Probably is needed at some point, the youth seem to spend so much time on their phones. I wonder if some even watch a TV all that much.

April 30th, 2019, 10:07 AM	#4
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	Re: Vertical video is now a real thing My daughter and son in law are in their mid 30's and spend plenty of time watching TV, also using a laptop in landscape mode. But their phones (and iPads to a lesser extent) are their primary form of connectivity, and they shoot virtually all video in portrait mode. I really don't have a problem with this at all. Their composition is generally quite good and the vertical format works well in many cases. Aside from that, it's just easier to hold the phone in portrait orientation. Remember the old days here at DVinfo? People would get into very heated debates about 4:3 vs 16:9. ;-)

April 30th, 2019, 11:33 AM	#5
Jeff Pulera Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Milwaukee WI Posts: 691	Re: Vertical video is now a real thing If humans were meant to view things vertically, our eyes would be situated one above the other...just saying.

May 1st, 2019, 04:32 AM	#7
Andrew Smith Equal Opportunity Offender Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,066	Re: Vertical video is now a real thing It's obvious that 'vertical video' is just too narrow to be of use. 16:9 on the other hand is what we've always been doing with our central content but with some extra stuff at the sides. The world is finally trimming off these superfluous extra bits and coming back to 4:3 video on social media. It's the reality test for being effective. Andrew

May 1st, 2019, 06:54 AM	#8
Brian Drysdale Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belfast, UK Posts: 6,152	Re: Vertical video is now a real thing Just to add that the vertical screen is used for advertising displays at various locations and on the screens at live events. However, for other forms it's pretty limiting.as a video aspect ratio, 4 x 3 makes more sense.

May 2nd, 2019, 12:50 AM	#10
Brian Drysdale Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belfast, UK Posts: 6,152	Re: Vertical video is now a real thing You need a big screen for scope films, either that or hold the iPad 6 inches in front of your face.

May 4th, 2019, 02:32 AM	#12
Andrew Smith Equal Opportunity Offender Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,066	Re: Vertical video is now a real thing I do wonder if the necessary use of vertical video in TV news stories (eg the only footage of a crash or explosion) somehow legitimises it as a type of video. On the other hand it's one of those things that can scream 'amateur' when compared to professional work. Andrew

May 8th, 2019, 12:22 AM	#13
Brian Drysdale Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belfast, UK Posts: 6,152	Re: Vertical video is now a real thing Seems someone is marketing a vertical TV. https://www.redsharknews.com/post/it...-a-vertical-tv

May 8th, 2019, 05:36 AM	#14
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	Re: Vertical video is now a real thing Isn't that the same product that this thread was originally about? ;-) Remember, back in the day, when "vertical video" was a "real thing" for computers? We thought it was so cool to see a letter sized page in portrait mode. And it was also cutting-edge that it had a white background like a sheet of paper. Maybe Xerox started this, and Apple jumped on board with several companies making vertical screens. Then there were screens that could rotate between portrait and landscape view. That was long before anyone had a smart phone. I don't shoot vertical video and probably never will, but it doesn't bother me that it exists. It's funny how this seems to really offend some of you guys. If you think of video as art, then why shouldn't the artist have the freedom to choose the canvas size they want? Or do you think that Rembrandt shouldn't have painted portraits?

May 9th, 2019, 01:48 AM	#15
Brian Drysdale Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belfast, UK Posts: 6,152	Re: Vertical video is now a real thing So it seems. Vertical screens are seen in 2001 for the iPad type screens used on the Discovery. https://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/...ck-invent-ipad I'm not sure that Kubrick invented the tablet screens, he had good designers working on that film.