New from Canon XA30 XA35 at DVinfo.net

Brian Rhodes · November 11th, 2015, 03:26 PM

New from Canon XA30 XA31

Full press release at DV Info Net: Canon USA Introduces XA35, XA30 Camcorders for Professional Videographers

XA30
1/2.84" HD CMOS Pro Sensor
1920x1080 up to 59.94p
20x Canon Optical Zoom Lens
Wide DR Gamma (600%) Mode
Highlight Priority Mode
3.5" OLED Touchscreen & EVF
2x XLR Audio Inputs with Manual Controls
Dual SD/SDHC/SDXC Media Card Slots
Built-In Wi-Fi with FTP Capabilities

XA35
•1/2.84" HD CMOS Pro Sensor
•1920x1080 up to 59.94p
•20x Canon Optical Zoom Lens
•HD/SD-SDI Output
•Wide DR Gamma (600%) Mode
•Highlight Priority Mode
•3.5" OLED Touchscreen & EVF
•2x XLR Audio Inputs with Manual Controls
•Dual SD/SDHC/SDXC Media Card Slots
•Built-In Wi-Fi with FTP Capabilities

Resolutions and Frame Rates AVCHD
1920 x 1080 / 59.94p (28, 17 Mbps)
1920 x 1080 / 59.94i, 29.97psf, 23.98p (24, 17 Mbps)
1440 x 1080 / 59.94i, 29.97psf, 23.98p (5 Mbps)

MP4
1920 x 1080 / 59.94p (35 Mbps)
1920 x 1080 / 29.97p, 23.98p (24, 17 Mbps)
1280 x 720 / 29.97p, 23.98p (4 Mbps)
640 x 360 / 29.97p, 23.98p (3 Mbps)
Slow and Fast Motion Recording 1x to 2.5x (59.94p, 35 Mbps playback; 17.5 max. recording bit rate)
0.5x to 1200x (29.97p, 24/17 Mbps playback; 48 Mbps max. recording bit rate)
0.4x to 1x (23.98p, 24/17 Mbps playback; 60 Mbps max. recording bit rate)
Maximum Recording Time With 64 GB card:

35 Mbps: 30 min.
28 Mbps: 35 min.
24 Mbps: 40 min.
17 Mbps: 1 hr.
5 Mbps: 3 hr.
4 Mbps: 4 hr. 20 min.
3 Mbps: 5 hr. 40 min.

Jack Zhang · November 11th, 2015, 03:39 PM

Still no 3G-SDI? The camera is capable of 1080 60p, but STILL doesn't output that over the SDI?

Rainer Listing · November 11th, 2015, 03:55 PM

The XA20 is a really great B and daytime event and grab camera, I'm very happy with the S/N and DR, really the only extra I would have wanted in an upgrade is a dial up ND filter.

Andy Tejral · November 14th, 2015, 03:11 PM

Has anyone heard if there will be a consumer version? Last time, all three were announced together...

Dylan Couper · November 16th, 2015, 02:28 PM

I can't find the specs for it's 4k recording mode?

Noa Put · November 16th, 2015, 02:34 PM

Maybe because there is none?

Dave Baker · November 17th, 2015, 02:17 AM

As you guessed, there are none Noa.

Mark Fry · November 17th, 2015, 04:03 AM

I think this is the final refinement of an old model to keep it fresh enough until the new generation is ready. Canon do this quite often - reminds me a bit of the HV20/30/40. I wonder if there will be a similar update to the XF200?

I just hope they include the zoom-speed dial beside the rocker switch on all the new models when they finally arrive. My XHA1s is getting rather long in the tooth now, but the XF300 is too expensive and heavy for my needs and the XF100/200 lacks that singularly useful gadget.

Dylan Couper · November 20th, 2015, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noa Put

Maybe because there is none?

Ah, my bad, this is clearly thread from 2013! Not 6 weeks from 2016...

Derek McCabe · November 20th, 2015, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Tejral

Has anyone heard if there will be a consumer version? Last time, all three were announced together...

lol.. this IS the consumer version.

Bill Koehler · November 21st, 2015, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek McCabe

lol.. this IS the consumer version.

The consumer version would be a HF G40 which would not offer either HD-SDI or XLR audio.

Looking at the initial posting of :
Maximum Recording Time With 64 GB card:

35 Mbps: 30 min.
28 Mbps: 35 min.
24 Mbps: 40 min.
17 Mbps: 1 hr.
5 Mbps: 3 hr.
4 Mbps: 4 hr. 20 min.
3 Mbps: 5 hr. 40 min.

Those numbers appear to have been pulled from the B&H website product page. Those numbers make no sense. For instance, 24 Mbps chews through a 64 GB card in 40 minutes? That implies 1.5 GB / minute which is far to high for AVCHD. Or 35 Mbps chews through 2+ GB / minute? I don't think so.

By my calculation the numbers should be:
Maximum Recording Time With 64 GB card:

35 Mbps: 4.0 hours.
28 Mbps: 5.0 hours
24 Mbps: 5.9 hours
17 Mbps: 8.3 hours.
5 Mbps: 28.4 hours.
4 Mbps: 35.6 hours.
3 Mbps: 47.4 hours.

Bill Koehler · November 27th, 2015, 06:09 PM

I think the error the person at B&H made in calculating recording time to a 64 GB card is a common one. They are reading (for instance) 25 Mbps and instead of thinking Mega-bits-per-second they are thinking Mega-Bytes-per-second. All the times are off by a factor of eight.

Brian Rhodes · November 27th, 2015, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Koehler

The consumer version would be a HF G40 which would not offer either HD-SDI or XLR audio.

Looking at the initial posting of :
Maximum Recording Time With 64 GB card:

35 Mbps: 30 min.
28 Mbps: 35 min.
24 Mbps: 40 min.
17 Mbps: 1 hr.
5 Mbps: 3 hr.
4 Mbps: 4 hr. 20 min.
3 Mbps: 5 hr. 40 min.

Those numbers appear to have been pulled from the B&H website product page. Those numbers make no sense. For instance, 24 Mbps chews through a 64 GB card in 40 minutes? That implies 1.5 GB / minute which is far to high for AVCHD. Or 35 Mbps chews through 2+ GB / minute? I don't think so.

By my calculation the numbers should be:
Maximum Recording Time With 64 GB card:

35 Mbps: 4.0 hours.
28 Mbps: 5.0 hours
24 Mbps: 5.9 hours
17 Mbps: 8.3 hours.
5 Mbps: 28.4 hours.
4 Mbps: 35.6 hours.
3 Mbps: 47.4 hours.

AVCHD Recording Mode
Memory
Capacity 28 Mbps 24 Mbps 17 Mbps 5 Mbps
8GB 35 min. 40 min. 1 hr. 3 hr.
16GB 1 hr.15 min. 1 hr. 25 min. 2 hr. 5 min. 6 hr. 5 min.
32GB 2 hr. 30 min. 2 hr. 55 min. 4 hr. 10 min. 12 hr. 15 min.
64GB 5 hr. 5 min. 5 hr. 55 min. 8 hr. 20 min. 24 hr. 30 min.
128GB 10 hr. 10 min. 11 hr. 55 min. 16 hr. 45 min. 49 hr.

MP4 Recording Mode
Memory
Capacity 35 Mbps 24 Mbps 17 Mbps 4 Mbps 3 Mbps
8GB 30 min. 40 min. 1 hr. 4 hr. 20 min. 5 hr. 40 min.
16GB 1 hr. 1 hr. 25 min. 2 hr. 5 min. 8 hr. 40 min. 11 hr. 25 min.
32GB 2 hr. 2 hr. 55 min. 4 hr. 10 min. 17 hr. 20 min. 22 hr. 55 min.
64GB 4 hr. 5 hr. 55 min. 8 hr. 20 min. 34 hr. 45 min. 45 hr. 55 min.
128GB 8 hr. 11 hr. 55 min. 16 hr. 45 min. 69 hr. 30 min. 91 hr. 55 min.

Andy Tejral · January 6th, 2016, 10:25 AM

Well, here's my answer:

Canon Vixia HF G40, R700, R72, R70 Release Date, Price and Specs - CNET

Ken Ross · January 8th, 2016, 10:19 AM

No 4K. It's unreal how far behind the times Canon is. Talk about a company that's lost it's way...at least in video.

November 11th, 2015, 03:26 PM	#1
Brian Rhodes Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 753	New from Canon XA30 XA35 New from Canon XA30 XA31 Full press release at DV Info Net: Canon USA Introduces XA35, XA30 Camcorders for Professional Videographers XA30 1/2.84" HD CMOS Pro Sensor 1920x1080 up to 59.94p 20x Canon Optical Zoom Lens Wide DR Gamma (600%) Mode Highlight Priority Mode 3.5" OLED Touchscreen & EVF 2x XLR Audio Inputs with Manual Controls Dual SD/SDHC/SDXC Media Card Slots Built-In Wi-Fi with FTP Capabilities XA35 •1/2.84" HD CMOS Pro Sensor •1920x1080 up to 59.94p •20x Canon Optical Zoom Lens •HD/SD-SDI Output •Wide DR Gamma (600%) Mode •Highlight Priority Mode •3.5" OLED Touchscreen & EVF •2x XLR Audio Inputs with Manual Controls •Dual SD/SDHC/SDXC Media Card Slots •Built-In Wi-Fi with FTP Capabilities Resolutions and Frame Rates AVCHD 1920 x 1080 / 59.94p (28, 17 Mbps) 1920 x 1080 / 59.94i, 29.97psf, 23.98p (24, 17 Mbps) 1440 x 1080 / 59.94i, 29.97psf, 23.98p (5 Mbps) MP4 1920 x 1080 / 59.94p (35 Mbps) 1920 x 1080 / 29.97p, 23.98p (24, 17 Mbps) 1280 x 720 / 29.97p, 23.98p (4 Mbps) 640 x 360 / 29.97p, 23.98p (3 Mbps) Slow and Fast Motion Recording 1x to 2.5x (59.94p, 35 Mbps playback; 17.5 max. recording bit rate) 0.5x to 1200x (29.97p, 24/17 Mbps playback; 48 Mbps max. recording bit rate) 0.4x to 1x (23.98p, 24/17 Mbps playback; 60 Mbps max. recording bit rate) Maximum Recording Time With 64 GB card: 35 Mbps: 30 min. 28 Mbps: 35 min. 24 Mbps: 40 min. 17 Mbps: 1 hr. 5 Mbps: 3 hr. 4 Mbps: 4 hr. 20 min. 3 Mbps: 5 hr. 40 min. Attached Thumbnails

November 11th, 2015, 03:39 PM	#2
Jack Zhang Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Burnaby, BC, Canada Posts: 3,053	Re: New from Canon XA30 XA35 Still no 3G-SDI? The camera is capable of 1080 60p, but STILL doesn't output that over the SDI?

November 11th, 2015, 03:55 PM	#3
Rainer Listing Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Nowra, Australia Posts: 440	Re: New from Canon XA30 XA35 The XA20 is a really great B and daytime event and grab camera, I'm very happy with the S/N and DR, really the only extra I would have wanted in an upgrade is a dial up ND filter.

November 14th, 2015, 03:11 PM	#4
Andy Tejral Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 523	Re: New from Canon XA30 XA35 Has anyone heard if there will be a consumer version? Last time, all three were announced together... __________________ Andy Tejral Railroad Videographer

November 16th, 2015, 02:28 PM	#5
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November 16th, 2015, 02:34 PM	#6
Noa Put Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 9,510	Re: New from Canon XA30 XA35 Maybe because there is none?

November 17th, 2015, 02:17 AM	#7
Dave Baker Major Player Join Date: May 2014 Location: Brandon, England Posts: 459	Re: New from Canon XA30 XA35 As you guessed, there are none Noa.

November 17th, 2015, 04:03 AM	#8
Mark Fry Major Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 425	Re: New from Canon XA30 XA35 I think this is the final refinement of an old model to keep it fresh enough until the new generation is ready. Canon do this quite often - reminds me a bit of the HV20/30/40. I wonder if there will be a similar update to the XF200? I just hope they include the zoom-speed dial beside the rocker switch on all the new models when they finally arrive. My XHA1s is getting rather long in the tooth now, but the XF300 is too expensive and heavy for my needs and the XF100/200 lacks that singularly useful gadget. __________________ Steam Age Pictures - videos in aid of railway preservation societies.

November 27th, 2015, 06:09 PM	#12
Bill Koehler Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Alpharetta, Georgia, USA Posts: 760	Re: New from Canon XA30 XA35 I think the error the person at B&H made in calculating recording time to a 64 GB card is a common one. They are reading (for instance) 25 Mbps and instead of thinking Mega-bits-per-second they are thinking Mega-Bytes-per-second. All the times are off by a factor of eight.

January 6th, 2016, 10:25 AM	#14
Andy Tejral Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 523	Re: New from Canon XA30 XA35 HF G40 Well, here's my answer: Canon Vixia HF G40, R700, R72, R70 Release Date, Price and Specs - CNET __________________ Andy Tejral Railroad Videographer

January 8th, 2016, 10:19 AM	#15
Ken Ross Trustee Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New York Posts: 1,945	Re: New from Canon XA30 XA35 No 4K. It's unreal how far behind the times Canon is. Talk about a company that's lost it's way...at least in video.