HXR-NX100: 1'' sensor NXCAM

Ugo Merlini · June 3rd, 2015, 12:13 PM

A crappy consumer codec on a Pro Cam. Good luck sony or to an NLE which consider Xavc-s a crappy codec

Ugo

Lawrence Bansbach · June 3rd, 2015, 12:48 PM

Sony really should start thinking in terms of better specs for 4K. I think 10-bit 4:2:2 is feasible at 150 Mbps, and 12-bit 4:2:2 at 200 Mbps would be nicer. Also, why won't they support DCI 4,096 x 2,160 on the 1-inch models when they offer it on the 1/2.3-inch Z100?

Ron Evans · June 3rd, 2015, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugo Merlini

A crappy consumer codec on a Pro Cam. Good luck sony or to an NLE which consider Xavc-s a crappy codec

Ugo

XAVC-S is pretty good from my experience and better than AVCHD. What NLE is causing you a problem. Edius will edit all of them XAVC, XAVC-L, XAVC-S with no problem.

Ron Evans

Ugo Merlini · June 3rd, 2015, 02:48 PM

Media composer. Sony and Avid never develop a codec or ama plug-ins for Xavc-S as it is a consumer codec for consumer camcorder. For Media Composer exist a buggy ama plug-ins and it cost 495 $. This is the reason I'm moving to Edius....

Ugo

June 3rd, 2015, 03:33 PM

I read somewhere that there's still a problem with XAVC-S and FCP10.2.1 also.

Jack Zhang · June 3rd, 2015, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lawrence Bansbach

Also, why won't they support DCI 4,096 x 2,160 on the 1-inch models when they offer it on the 1/2.3-inch Z100?

We don't know that yet. Maybe with a better form factor they can afford a more hefty heatsink to be able to allow that frame size. The current design of this camera looks like it's still designed for 1080 in mind.

Simon Denny · June 3rd, 2015, 06:20 PM

Hi Ugo Merlini,

I edit in Avid MC 3.1 and yes there is no XAVCS AMA. I use Edit Ready to convert XAVCS files, these days it's almost in every edit that I do as more people are using the A7S RX10 etc… I own both cameras and find the work flow easy, yes it's a bit long to get these into Avid but hey…. Avid has it's own way of doing things.

I also have migrated to Premier Pro and PP takes XAVCS files natively. This is wonderful and I wish Avid could do the same.

Ron Evans · June 3rd, 2015, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugo Merlini

Media composer. Sony and Avid never develop a codec or ama plug-ins for Xavc-S as it is a consumer codec for consumer camcorder. For Media Composer exist a buggy ama plug-ins and it cost 495 $. This is the reason I'm moving to Edius....

Ugo

My main editor is Edius 7.5 . I also have Vegas 12 which will edit XAVC-S and XAVC but not XAVC-L from the X70. I think Premiere CC will also edit them all too. You will like Edius.

Ron Evans

Kyle Root · June 4th, 2015, 06:33 AM

As a wedding video guy, this camera looks like a very nice blend of features in a relatively compact form. Having the 3 dedicated rings, and all the buttons (minimal menu diving) is a huge plus IMO. It's one of the things that's kept me on the edge from getting the AX100/X70.

I'd like to see some dimensions/weight on the unit... but if it's <$2,000 it looks like a nice replacement for my aging NX5.

I love the 1" sensor look for shallow DOF.... if there was a way to use the FMU with it, that would be great! But, it doesn't look like it has the capability based on the images.

Richard D. George · June 4th, 2015, 01:41 PM

There is a handy PDF document called:

Sony XAVC Workflow Guide

It presents the variations of XAVC for each Sony camera, and then presents a table with the specs for each variation of XAVC.

Matt Sharp · June 4th, 2015, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle Root

I'd like to see some dimensions/weight on the unit... but if it's <$2,000 it looks like a nice replacement for my aging NX5.

Looks just a tad shorter.

Here's the brochure with some specs: http://www.sony.co.uk/pro/support/at...11v1-h-pdf.pdf

Mervyn Jack · June 5th, 2015, 06:37 AM

The Australian Sony Pro site now lists the HXR-NX30 and NX70, NX5 (and some others) as discontinued and the HXR-NX100 is now there. No more BOSS in the pro cameras.

David Dixon · June 5th, 2015, 07:33 AM

FCPX has always been able to import XAVC-S, it's only XAVC-L that it couldn't deal with, especially clips from the Sony X70. For several months we've been using first Catalyst Browse, then recently EditReady to transcode to ProRes. However, the latest (as of this week) firmware for the X70 has fixed that - FCPX will now import and edit native XAVC-L.

Jack Zhang · June 6th, 2015, 04:36 AM

FYI: B&H page for this camera is now up:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1156385-REG/sony_hxr_nx100.html
Of note is the F-stop range. Identical to that of the DVX200 and the X70. I know some low-light ENG people won't like the loss of light, but keep in mind the price. Those with EX1s might just have to accept cameras from now on may not have that F0.9 stop loss throughout the zoom range.

Ron Evans · June 6th, 2015, 06:04 AM

The lens is clearly a three ring version of the lens on the X70/AX100/CX900. Sony are really milking this core platform. It looks to be a more useful version than the X70 but leaves off useful things like touch focus probable because it doesn't have a touch LCD and still has a crazy lens cap instead of the nice lever closure version on all the other NXCAM models !! Nice move back to L series batteries though. . That means common batteries with NX5, NX3/1 and NEX-EA50 the likely other cameras for events. Of course after 18 months they still haven't got all my FDR-AX1 working !!! Sony seem to be getting things about 85% at the moment

Ron Evans

June 3rd, 2015, 12:13 PM	#16
Ugo Merlini Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Italy Posts: 34	Re: HXR-NX100: 1'' sensor NXCAM A crappy consumer codec on a Pro Cam. Good luck sony or to an NLE which consider Xavc-s a crappy codec Ugo

June 3rd, 2015, 12:48 PM	#17
Lawrence Bansbach Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 295	Re: HXR-NX100: 1'' sensor NXCAM Sony really should start thinking in terms of better specs for 4K. I think 10-bit 4:2:2 is feasible at 150 Mbps, and 12-bit 4:2:2 at 200 Mbps would be nicer. Also, why won't they support DCI 4,096 x 2,160 on the 1-inch models when they offer it on the 1/2.3-inch Z100?

June 3rd, 2015, 02:48 PM	#19
Ugo Merlini Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Italy Posts: 34	Re: HXR-NX100: 1'' sensor NXCAM Media composer. Sony and Avid never develop a codec or ama plug-ins for Xavc-S as it is a consumer codec for consumer camcorder. For Media Composer exist a buggy ama plug-ins and it cost 495 $. This is the reason I'm moving to Edius.... Ugo

June 3rd, 2015, 03:33 PM	#20
Unregistered Guest Posts: n/a	Re: HXR-NX100: 1'' sensor NXCAM I read somewhere that there's still a problem with XAVC-S and FCP10.2.1 also.

June 3rd, 2015, 06:20 PM	#22
Simon Denny Trustee Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,409	Re: HXR-NX100: 1'' sensor NXCAM Hi Ugo Merlini, I edit in Avid MC 3.1 and yes there is no XAVCS AMA. I use Edit Ready to convert XAVCS files, these days it's almost in every edit that I do as more people are using the A7S RX10 etc… I own both cameras and find the work flow easy, yes it's a bit long to get these into Avid but hey…. Avid has it's own way of doing things. I also have migrated to Premier Pro and PP takes XAVCS files natively. This is wonderful and I wish Avid could do the same.

June 4th, 2015, 06:33 AM	#24
Kyle Root Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Decatur, AL Posts: 883	Re: HXR-NX100: 1'' sensor NXCAM As a wedding video guy, this camera looks like a very nice blend of features in a relatively compact form. Having the 3 dedicated rings, and all the buttons (minimal menu diving) is a huge plus IMO. It's one of the things that's kept me on the edge from getting the AX100/X70. I'd like to see some dimensions/weight on the unit... but if it's <$2,000 it looks like a nice replacement for my aging NX5. I love the 1" sensor look for shallow DOF.... if there was a way to use the FMU with it, that would be great! But, it doesn't look like it has the capability based on the images. __________________ Kyle KR Productions; www.kyleroot.com

June 4th, 2015, 01:41 PM	#25
Richard D. George Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 351	Re: HXR-NX100: 1'' sensor NXCAM There is a handy PDF document called: Sony XAVC Workflow Guide It presents the variations of XAVC for each Sony camera, and then presents a table with the specs for each variation of XAVC.

June 5th, 2015, 06:37 AM	#27
Mervyn Jack Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Shepparton, Vic, Australia Posts: 78	Re: HXR-NX100: 1'' sensor NXCAM The Australian Sony Pro site now lists the HXR-NX30 and NX70, NX5 (and some others) as discontinued and the HXR-NX100 is now there. No more BOSS in the pro cameras.

June 5th, 2015, 07:33 AM	#28
David Dixon Major Player Join Date: May 2011 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 495	Re: HXR-NX100: 1'' sensor NXCAM FCPX has always been able to import XAVC-S, it's only XAVC-L that it couldn't deal with, especially clips from the Sony X70. For several months we've been using first Catalyst Browse, then recently EditReady to transcode to ProRes. However, the latest (as of this week) firmware for the X70 has fixed that - FCPX will now import and edit native XAVC-L.

June 6th, 2015, 04:36 AM	#29
Jack Zhang Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Burnaby, BC, Canada Posts: 3,053	Re: HXR-NX100: 1'' sensor NXCAM FYI: B&H page for this camera is now up: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1156385-REG/sony_hxr_nx100.html Of note is the F-stop range. Identical to that of the DVX200 and the X70. I know some low-light ENG people won't like the loss of light, but keep in mind the price. Those with EX1s might just have to accept cameras from now on may not have that F0.9 stop loss throughout the zoom range.

June 6th, 2015, 06:04 AM	#30
Ron Evans Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,222	Re: HXR-NX100: 1'' sensor NXCAM The lens is clearly a three ring version of the lens on the X70/AX100/CX900. Sony are really milking this core platform. It looks to be a more useful version than the X70 but leaves off useful things like touch focus probable because it doesn't have a touch LCD and still has a crazy lens cap instead of the nice lever closure version on all the other NXCAM models !! Nice move back to L series batteries though. . That means common batteries with NX5, NX3/1 and NEX-EA50 the likely other cameras for events. Of course after 18 months they still haven't got all my FDR-AX1 working !!! Sony seem to be getting things about 85% at the moment Ron Evans