Video on iPod Now Official

Brian Andrews · October 13th, 2005, 12:55 PM

Guys,

Forget about the 2.5" screen--this thing has video out! This could be the killer app for the new iPod. This basically makes it a portable Tivo. You can convert content on your Mac with QuickTime--it can do MPEG4 at 480x480. How would that look on a TV?

Wedding and event videographers now don't have to wait to render to DVD to show their clients a first draft of their work. Just take your project as a QuickTime movie on your iPod, take the iPod to the client's house/site and view it. Nice.

Also nice for traveling with the kids in the car. Or on a family trip with a rainy day. You dont' have to carry DVDs anymore.

Leigh Hanlon · October 13th, 2005, 04:07 PM

The Trojan Horse in all this is that ultimately, all content could become pay-per-view.

Boyd Ostroff · October 13th, 2005, 06:03 PM

We've pretty much come to that already.... most people watch TV on cable or satellite that they pay for, or rent/buy DVD's. And even with over the air broadcasts you "pay" by suffering through the commercials ;-)

Anhar Miah · October 13th, 2005, 06:28 PM

When I said catch up, I meant in terms of technology not market share, in that respect you are definately right. Apples has enough "eye Candy" to shake a stick at. The TV out option is also been done before.

What I was saying was that, Joe Blogs may think this is "new" stuff, but hard nosed gadgeters should know that this is been done before (even if the media will hail this as "first of kind").

Remember Nintendo 64?, it was hailed as the FIRST 64bit system, yet this was factually wrong, as the Atari Jaguar was a true 64bit system, it used two sub system chips namley Tom and Jerry each was 32bit (For graphics and sound respectively). However few got to know about Atari it was a failed games console :(

Anhar

Peter Wiley · October 15th, 2005, 05:07 AM

As usual Robert Cringely has some interesting ideas about what if all means

http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20051013.html

One intresting idea he mentions: a DVD-movie kiosks located in, say, the GAP or other retailers where one takes one's video iPod, downloads a movie to it and takes the movie home . . . no return needed etc.

Boyd Ostroff · October 15th, 2005, 08:32 AM

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/051014/video...ions.html?.v=3

Quote:

In a show of unity, five unions representing actors, writers and directors issued a joint call for talks to make sure their members get a cut of revenue generated by the sale of TV shows on Apple's iTunes software.

Heath McKnight · October 15th, 2005, 01:03 PM

My current iPod, still under warranty, needs to be replaced--I've been having problems. Guess I'll be getting this as a replacement. I may spring for the 60 gb. What I really want to do is figure out how to put my movies on it, including my feature, so I can show people.

heath

Boyd Ostroff · October 15th, 2005, 01:10 PM

Well that might be cool using the video out jack to a TV set. But if somebody asked me to watch their movie on an iPod with a 2.5" screen and earbuds, I'd tell them to forget it! ;-)

Greg Harris · October 18th, 2005, 10:57 AM

what do you think the battery life is on the new pod when you watch a show for 2 hours?? I would think it would really short.

Heath McKnight · October 18th, 2005, 11:15 AM

hmmm, a scientific study may be in order! Perhaps I shall buy one and test it...Wait, car payments' due.

heath

Dylan Couper · October 19th, 2005, 01:57 AM

Wow, years after I've been watching feature films on my cell phone, Apple finally brings something to the table.... I'm sooooooooooooooooo impressed. :P

Jos Svendsen · October 19th, 2005, 05:27 AM

I'm looking forward to the day, where a videofestival is a matter of getting all the video downloaded to your videoPod.

Some analyst has a interesting take on Apple video initiative. It is not movies that is interesting and it is not an effort to compete with DVD's. It is tv on demand with DRM. So If you are interested in per example Simpsons, but only wants a few episodes, then you could get the episodes from iTunes cheaper than getting a whole DVD set. Or you missed an episode of some series, then you could get it from iTunes the day after.

The big issue for Apple is to prove that it is added revenue for the networks, that is not taking anything away from DVD sales.

And there gonna be millions of these devices in a year. Meaning that this pilot could very well be some sort of trojan way of getting the studios to relax on releasing movies on anything else but DVD (or PSP)

Peter Wiley · October 19th, 2005, 06:24 AM

Here is David Pogue's review of the iPod.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/18/te...web-pogue.html

Jos Svendsen · October 19th, 2005, 07:03 AM

I think this guy has hit it on the spot. Very interesting article.

http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20051013.html

Heath McKnight · October 19th, 2005, 10:00 AM

Both are great articles. The long-rumored place on Apple's site to put indie movies, videos, etc., would be awesome, as all of us struggling filmmakers, videomakers, etc., know.

heath

October 13th, 2005, 12:55 PM	#31
Brian Andrews Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 69	Don't forget video out! Guys, Forget about the 2.5" screen--this thing has video out! This could be the killer app for the new iPod. This basically makes it a portable Tivo. You can convert content on your Mac with QuickTime--it can do MPEG4 at 480x480. How would that look on a TV? Wedding and event videographers now don't have to wait to render to DVD to show their clients a first draft of their work. Just take your project as a QuickTime movie on your iPod, take the iPod to the client's house/site and view it. Nice. Also nice for traveling with the kids in the car. Or on a family trip with a rainy day. You dont' have to carry DVDs anymore.

October 13th, 2005, 04:07 PM	#32
Leigh Hanlon Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, USA Posts: 64	The Trojan Horse in all this is that ultimately, all content could become pay-per-view. __________________ Leigh Hanlon \| Chicago, USA GL2 - Final Cut Studio

October 13th, 2005, 06:28 PM	#34
Anhar Miah Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: United Kindom, England Posts: 290	When I said catch up, I meant in terms of technology not market share, in that respect you are definately right. Apples has enough "eye Candy" to shake a stick at. The TV out option is also been done before. What I was saying was that, Joe Blogs may think this is "new" stuff, but hard nosed gadgeters should know that this is been done before (even if the media will hail this as "first of kind"). Remember Nintendo 64?, it was hailed as the FIRST 64bit system, yet this was factually wrong, as the Atari Jaguar was a true 64bit system, it used two sub system chips namley Tom and Jerry each was 32bit (For graphics and sound respectively). However few got to know about Atari it was a failed games console :( Anhar __________________ The IT Ninja Learn, Teach, Grow..

October 15th, 2005, 01:03 PM	#37
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	My current iPod, still under warranty, needs to be replaced--I've been having problems. Guess I'll be getting this as a replacement. I may spring for the 60 gb. What I really want to do is figure out how to put my movies on it, including my feature, so I can show people. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

October 18th, 2005, 11:15 AM	#40
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	hmmm, a scientific study may be in order! Perhaps I shall buy one and test it...Wait, car payments' due. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

October 13th, 2005, 06:03 PM	#33
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	We've pretty much come to that already.... most people watch TV on cable or satellite that they pay for, or rent/buy DVD's. And even with over the air broadcasts you "pay" by suffering through the commercials ;-)

October 15th, 2005, 05:07 AM	#35
Peter Wiley Major Player Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lewisburg PA Posts: 752	As usual Robert Cringely has some interesting ideas about what if all means http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20051013.html One intresting idea he mentions: a DVD-movie kiosks located in, say, the GAP or other retailers where one takes one's video iPod, downloads a movie to it and takes the movie home . . . no return needed etc.

October 15th, 2005, 01:10 PM	#38
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	Well that might be cool using the video out jack to a TV set. But if somebody asked me to watch their movie on an iPod with a 2.5" screen and earbuds, I'd tell them to forget it! ;-)

October 18th, 2005, 10:57 AM	#39
Greg Harris Major Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Fairfax, VA Posts: 356	what do you think the battery life is on the new pod when you watch a show for 2 hours?? I would think it would really short.

October 19th, 2005, 01:57 AM	#41
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Wow, years after I've been watching feature films on my cell phone, Apple finally brings something to the table.... I'm sooooooooooooooooo impressed. :P __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

October 19th, 2005, 05:27 AM	#42
Jos Svendsen Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 221	I'm looking forward to the day, where a videofestival is a matter of getting all the video downloaded to your videoPod. Some analyst has a interesting take on Apple video initiative. It is not movies that is interesting and it is not an effort to compete with DVD's. It is tv on demand with DRM. So If you are interested in per example Simpsons, but only wants a few episodes, then you could get the episodes from iTunes cheaper than getting a whole DVD set. Or you missed an episode of some series, then you could get it from iTunes the day after. The big issue for Apple is to prove that it is added revenue for the networks, that is not taking anything away from DVD sales. And there gonna be millions of these devices in a year. Meaning that this pilot could very well be some sort of trojan way of getting the studios to relax on releasing movies on anything else but DVD (or PSP)

October 19th, 2005, 06:24 AM	#43
Peter Wiley Major Player Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lewisburg PA Posts: 752	Here is David Pogue's review of the iPod. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/18/te...web-pogue.html

October 19th, 2005, 07:03 AM	#44
Jos Svendsen Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 221	I think this guy has hit it on the spot. Very interesting article. http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20051013.html

October 19th, 2005, 10:00 AM	#45
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Both are great articles. The long-rumored place on Apple's site to put indie movies, videos, etc., would be awesome, as all of us struggling filmmakers, videomakers, etc., know. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog