New Windows Vista will boot in 2-3 seconds at DVinfo.net

Glenn Gipson · September 27th, 2005, 07:57 AM

http://www.dvhardware.net/article7269.html

Jesse Bekas · September 27th, 2005, 04:46 PM

Well, my XP computer booted relatively quickly as well, but certianly got bogged down over time, even with constant maintenance to avoid that problem.

What they need to do is make the PC/windows/registry self-repairing.

Steve Connor · September 27th, 2005, 05:12 PM

Boot in 3 seconds

Get infected by a trojan in 4 seconds

Crash after 5 seconds

That's progress!

Dylan Couper · September 27th, 2005, 05:52 PM

3 seconds, until it gets packed with pornospam and spyware...

George Ellis · September 27th, 2005, 06:23 PM

It will require new hardware with a new 'BIOS' (it is not really BIOS, it is the new replacement, which I just cannot remember the name of at the moment.)

Imran Zaidi · September 27th, 2005, 07:15 PM

C'mon guys, no need to start a petty cross-platform yadda ya. Remember, different strokes for different folks, and more importantly, at this day and age, any OS is only as good as the person at the keyboard.

George Ellis · September 27th, 2005, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imran Zaidi

C'mon guys, no need to start a petty cross-platform yadda ya. Remember, different strokes for different folks, and more importantly, at this day and age, any OS is only as good as the person at the keyboard.

I don't read it that way. And if you have unpatched XP SP1 on the net, it will be infected before the GUI during installation responds to the user.
:D

Dylan Couper · September 27th, 2005, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imran Zaidi

C'mon guys, no need to start a petty cross-platform yadda ya. Remember, different strokes for different folks, and more importantly, at this day and age, any OS is only as good as the person at the keyboard.

I love Windows, you should hear me tear into Macs. :)

Simon Wyndham · September 28th, 2005, 04:43 AM

Why in the hell do they need the registry anyway? Why do we need to 'install' programs? In the old days of the Atari ST, Falcom, Amiga (and I presume the Mac even today) programs could just be copied onto the hard drive and deleted off the hard drive at will. Much simpler. Files that relate to programs are easily found (why do we need all these DLL's? Why can't they be self contained within the program executable?)

And why can't modern programmers go back to the old days when stuff was written in machine code and made as small and as efficient as possible?

George Ellis · September 28th, 2005, 05:38 AM

The BIOS replacement is EFI - Extensible Firmware Interface. The OS can inject pieces into to shortcut many of the things POST does.

Steven Davis · September 28th, 2005, 05:58 AM

Come on, I can make it through a half a cup of coffee while windows is booting, I can't lose my tranquility time.

George Ellis · September 28th, 2005, 06:01 AM

Hey, MS is just saying Vista will boot fast. All the rest of the garbage will take forever to load. Enjoy your coffee. :D

Had this discussion a few times with various areas complaining about long load times. When we ship an OS package to the development teams, we have boot times under 30 seconds. By the time they have added all the enterprise apps, it takes more than 2 minutes to get to a desktop... :P

Shaughan Flynn · September 28th, 2005, 07:41 AM

I own Mac and Windows. They both have their faults and their advantages. No OS is perfect. If applications were still written in assembler, I would still be a programmer :D

Ken Tanaka · September 28th, 2005, 08:41 AM

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September 27th, 2005, 04:46 PM	#2
Jesse Bekas Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ridgefield Park, New Jersey, USA Posts: 572	Well, my XP computer booted relatively quickly as well, but certianly got bogged down over time, even with constant maintenance to avoid that problem. What they need to do is make the PC/windows/registry self-repairing.

September 27th, 2005, 05:12 PM	#3
Steve Connor Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 383	Boot in 3 seconds Get infected by a trojan in 4 seconds Crash after 5 seconds That's progress!

September 27th, 2005, 06:23 PM	#5
George Ellis Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Suwanee, GA Posts: 1,241	It will require new hardware with a new 'BIOS' (it is not really BIOS, it is the new replacement, which I just cannot remember the name of at the moment.)

September 27th, 2005, 07:15 PM	#6
Imran Zaidi Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,315	C'mon guys, no need to start a petty cross-platform yadda ya. Remember, different strokes for different folks, and more importantly, at this day and age, any OS is only as good as the person at the keyboard.

September 28th, 2005, 04:43 AM	#9
Simon Wyndham Trustee Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Malvern UK Posts: 1,931	Why in the hell do they need the registry anyway? Why do we need to 'install' programs? In the old days of the Atari ST, Falcom, Amiga (and I presume the Mac even today) programs could just be copied onto the hard drive and deleted off the hard drive at will. Much simpler. Files that relate to programs are easily found (why do we need all these DLL's? Why can't they be self contained within the program executable?) And why can't modern programmers go back to the old days when stuff was written in machine code and made as small and as efficient as possible?

September 28th, 2005, 05:38 AM	#10
George Ellis Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Suwanee, GA Posts: 1,241	The BIOS replacement is EFI - Extensible Firmware Interface. The OS can inject pieces into to shortcut many of the things POST does.

September 28th, 2005, 06:01 AM	#12
George Ellis Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Suwanee, GA Posts: 1,241	Hey, MS is just saying Vista will boot fast. All the rest of the garbage will take forever to load. Enjoy your coffee. :D Had this discussion a few times with various areas complaining about long load times. When we ship an OS package to the development teams, we have boot times under 30 seconds. By the time they have added all the enterprise apps, it takes more than 2 minutes to get to a desktop... :P