What cameras did the Sundance entries use? at DVinfo.net

Glen Vandermolen · February 1st, 2013, 10:50 AM

Here's a list:

Sundance 2013: List of Cameras Directors Used Shows Variety

Lots of Arris, Canons, REDs and Sonys. The usual suspects. Very few film cameras.

Charles Papert · February 1st, 2013, 11:11 AM

Alexa on mine (Hell Baby)...

Chris Hurd · February 1st, 2013, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Charles Papert

(Hell Baby)

To wit: Hell Baby - Festival Program | Sundance Institute

Charles Papert · February 1st, 2013, 11:24 AM

Laughing at the picture on that page--that's from the set of "Children's Hospital". Guess they couldn't find a still of Lake directing her feature so they figured that one would do.

Chris Hurd · February 1st, 2013, 11:42 AM

False advertising... d'oh!

Zach Love · February 1st, 2013, 12:14 PM

I want to thank you for posting this link & for James DeRuvo from doddleme.com for compiling the list. I, like many people on this board, am a camera gear junkie, pixel peeper & love this stuff.

BUT, if you want to get a film into Sundance & you're looking at this list to see what camera to buy, you're focusing on the wrong thing.

Talent is more important than tools.

I'm guessing the the people using iPhones & GoPros have just as much (or more) story telling talent than the guys using a Red or Arri.

I think this list shows we're in a liberating & exciting time for film making that it is a lot more about talent than tool.

Hundreds of years ago, on a few elite had the ability to publish a book. Today, anyone in the first world can afford a computer & word processor. But just because you have MS Word, doesn't mean you're going to write the next great American novel.

Chris Hurd · February 1st, 2013, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Zach Love

Talent is more important than tools.

More than anything else, I think this has been the prevailing mantra for DV Info Net over the past eleven years since we first went online. It's always worth repeating!

Dylan Couper · February 1st, 2013, 03:08 PM

Talent over tools is about to change... Jim Jannard just announced the Daniel Day Lewis module for Red that will reduce the need for talented actors by 30-40% by enhancing their delivery in camera. Because its RAW you'll be able to change mood and tone in post.

Also... did I see the XL1 in that list?

David Heath · February 1st, 2013, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Zach Love

Talent is more important than tools.

I won't disagree with that - but they should be regarded as two totally separate matters. If it was a choice of best tools OR best talent, then yes - go for the talent.

But it's rarely if ever an either/or choice. Surely the optimum is good talent *AND* good tools?

Simon Wood · February 2nd, 2013, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dylan Couper

Talent over tools is about to change... Jim Jannard just announced the Daniel Day Lewis module for Red that will reduce the need for talented actors by 30-40% by enhancing their delivery in camera. Because its RAW you'll be able to change mood and tone in post.

Thats nothing. Canon have just announced their new line of Hilary Swank Series Lenses. It instantly makes all your movies more Swanky, but as an unfortunate side effect the DOP is likely to stiff the Camera Operators in his acceptance speech.

John Richard · February 2nd, 2013, 08:56 AM

After seeing 21 films at this Sundance, I was surprised how many were still shot on film.

Brian Drysdale · February 2nd, 2013, 09:58 AM

There aren't that many shot on film in that list.

John Richard · February 3rd, 2013, 09:29 AM

That is because that "list" is by no means the complete list of films. Examples I can remember offhand from the US Dramatic competition that were shot on film:

In a World...
Ain't Them Bodies Saints
Toy's House
Fruitvale (Award winner in 2 categories)

And non-competition Premiere films like jOBS and Sweetwater were also shot on film

There were many more - I was shocked when the credits rolled to see so many shot on film. I did view most of the big films at the Eccles venue though and did not see shorts and most docs though.

Al Bergstein · February 3rd, 2013, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by David Heath

I won't disagree with that - but they should be regarded as two totally separate matters. If it was a choice of best tools OR best talent, then yes - go for the talent.

But it's rarely if ever an either/or choice. Surely the optimum is good talent *AND* good tools?

And let's add "the story"?

Per-Axel Gjores · February 4th, 2013, 03:40 PM

Last year's Sundance hit Searching For Sugarman was shot with a Sony EX1. Great story, great film shot with a cheap but great camera! And maybe getting an Oscar!

February 1st, 2013, 10:50 AM	#1
Glen Vandermolen Space Hipster Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 1,596	What cameras did the Sundance entries use? Here's a list: Sundance 2013: List of Cameras Directors Used Shows Variety Lots of Arris, Canons, REDs and Sonys. The usual suspects. Very few film cameras.

February 1st, 2013, 11:11 AM	#2
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	Re: What cameras did the Sundance entries use? Alexa on mine (Hell Baby)... __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

February 1st, 2013, 11:24 AM	#4
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	Re: What cameras did the Sundance entries use? Laughing at the picture on that page--that's from the set of "Children's Hospital". Guess they couldn't find a still of Lake directing her feature so they figured that one would do. __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

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February 1st, 2013, 12:14 PM	#6
Zach Love Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 944	Re: What cameras did the Sundance entries use? I want to thank you for posting this link & for James DeRuvo from doddleme.com for compiling the list. I, like many people on this board, am a camera gear junkie, pixel peeper & love this stuff. BUT, if you want to get a film into Sundance & you're looking at this list to see what camera to buy, you're focusing on the wrong thing. Talent is more important than tools. I'm guessing the the people using iPhones & GoPros have just as much (or more) story telling talent than the guys using a Red or Arri. I think this list shows we're in a liberating & exciting time for film making that it is a lot more about talent than tool. Hundreds of years ago, on a few elite had the ability to publish a book. Today, anyone in the first world can afford a computer & word processor. But just because you have MS Word, doesn't mean you're going to write the next great American novel. __________________ Nothing says you're a serious video maker like S-VHS

February 1st, 2013, 03:08 PM	#8
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Re: What cameras did the Sundance entries use? Talent over tools is about to change... Jim Jannard just announced the Daniel Day Lewis module for Red that will reduce the need for talented actors by 30-40% by enhancing their delivery in camera. Because its RAW you'll be able to change mood and tone in post. Also... did I see the XL1 in that list? __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

February 2nd, 2013, 08:56 AM	#11
John Richard Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Incline Village, Nevada Posts: 604	Re: What cameras did the Sundance entries use? After seeing 21 films at this Sundance, I was surprised how many were still shot on film.

February 2nd, 2013, 09:58 AM	#12
Brian Drysdale Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belfast, UK Posts: 6,152	Re: What cameras did the Sundance entries use? There aren't that many shot on film in that list.

February 3rd, 2013, 09:29 AM	#13
John Richard Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Incline Village, Nevada Posts: 604	Re: What cameras did the Sundance entries use? That is because that "list" is by no means the complete list of films. Examples I can remember offhand from the US Dramatic competition that were shot on film: In a World... Ain't Them Bodies Saints Toy's House Fruitvale (Award winner in 2 categories) And non-competition Premiere films like jOBS and Sweetwater were also shot on film There were many more - I was shocked when the credits rolled to see so many shot on film. I did view most of the big films at the Eccles venue though and did not see shorts and most docs though.

February 4th, 2013, 03:40 PM	#15
Per-Axel Gjores New Boot Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Kalmar Sweden Posts: 21	Re: What cameras did the Sundance entries use? Last year's Sundance hit Searching For Sugarman was shot with a Sony EX1. Great story, great film shot with a cheap but great camera! And maybe getting an Oscar!