Next "HD" DVD format "war" has started

Chris Hurd · January 21st, 2005, 02:32 PM

It would take a release of Citizen Kane on HD-DVD or Blu-Ray to get me to upgrade.

Kaleem Maxwell · January 29th, 2005, 04:11 PM

Heh, I'd still wait for the "price drop" on the boxing day weekend. Muh huh huh...

The big question here is who can really make the new technologies sing? And I mean, really sing? And which smaller companies can take advantages of the technologies?

Okay that was 3 questions.

Heath McKnight · January 29th, 2005, 11:16 PM

Chris,

When I heard Sky Captain would be released on HD-DVD, I said, "I'm gonna wait, because I'm sick of buying a DVD and then a better version comes out later." Then I realized I'd have to buy an HD-DVD player, and if history is any indication (the first VCR, the first CD player, the first DVD player), the prices will probably be a minimum of $300 to $400...

heath

ps-I'm gonna buy Sky Captain shortly...SD...

Rob Lohman · January 30th, 2005, 08:39 AM

And the first DVD discs looked AWEFULL. It is very reasonable to
think the first HD-DVD or blu-ray disc will look worse than discs
2 years later (not to say they won't look great, but they need to
get that technology to the best it can do as well).

Heath McKnight · January 30th, 2005, 09:59 AM

Rob,

I still have one of the first DVDs ever, though I bought it 2.5 years after it came out: Twister, and compared to the newer version (circa 2000), it is not nearly as nice, but still pretty decent. And FYI, in early 1998, Siskel and Ebert compared the quality of a DVD and Laserdisc, and the DVD had better resolution. They talked about how it would probably take over, but they didn't need to get rid of their laserdiscs. Then again, most early DVDs were nothing more than re-packaged LDs.

What about those DVDs that were "disposable," that Circuit City got behind? Much lower quality than regular DVDs! UGH!

heath

Rob Lohman · January 31st, 2005, 03:54 AM

Wasn't the disposable format called "divx" (no, not *that* codec)?
Or was that something else? It bombed massively, ofcourse.

That's exactly what I was talking about Heath. The resolution is
there for HD-DVD/blu-ray. The question is how good are the encoders
for the various formats on those discs (and which will be used
most since they have windows media on there, but also mpeg4
I believe and some other formats?) and will they take the time
to do it righ or rush it out (probably). We'll see what happens....

January 21st, 2005, 02:32 PM	#46
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	It would take a release of Citizen Kane on HD-DVD or Blu-Ray to get me to upgrade. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

January 29th, 2005, 04:11 PM	#47
Kaleem Maxwell Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mississauga, Ontario, Canada Posts: 27	Heh, I'd still wait for the "price drop" on the boxing day weekend. Muh huh huh... The big question here is who can really make the new technologies sing? And I mean, really sing? And which smaller companies can take advantages of the technologies? Okay that was 3 questions. __________________ Kaleem Maxwell - Web Producer & Developer www.kmaxwell.com

January 29th, 2005, 11:16 PM	#48
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Chris, When I heard Sky Captain would be released on HD-DVD, I said, "I'm gonna wait, because I'm sick of buying a DVD and then a better version comes out later." Then I realized I'd have to buy an HD-DVD player, and if history is any indication (the first VCR, the first CD player, the first DVD player), the prices will probably be a minimum of $300 to $400... heath ps-I'm gonna buy Sky Captain shortly...SD... __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

January 30th, 2005, 08:39 AM	#49
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	And the first DVD discs looked AWEFULL. It is very reasonable to think the first HD-DVD or blu-ray disc will look worse than discs 2 years later (not to say they won't look great, but they need to get that technology to the best it can do as well). __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 30th, 2005, 09:59 AM	#50
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Rob, I still have one of the first DVDs ever, though I bought it 2.5 years after it came out: Twister, and compared to the newer version (circa 2000), it is not nearly as nice, but still pretty decent. And FYI, in early 1998, Siskel and Ebert compared the quality of a DVD and Laserdisc, and the DVD had better resolution. They talked about how it would probably take over, but they didn't need to get rid of their laserdiscs. Then again, most early DVDs were nothing more than re-packaged LDs. What about those DVDs that were "disposable," that Circuit City got behind? Much lower quality than regular DVDs! UGH! heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

January 31st, 2005, 03:54 AM	#51
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Wasn't the disposable format called "divx" (no, not that codec)? Or was that something else? It bombed massively, ofcourse. That's exactly what I was talking about Heath. The resolution is there for HD-DVD/blu-ray. The question is how good are the encoders for the various formats on those discs (and which will be used most since they have windows media on there, but also mpeg4 I believe and some other formats?) and will they take the time to do it righ or rush it out (probably). We'll see what happens.... __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors