Apple's iPod....you can't tell me....

John Locke · December 6th, 2004, 12:44 PM

Why... I think I look rather cool talking on my Treo.

Charles Papert · December 6th, 2004, 01:01 PM

I don't know about my personal cool factor, but I don't find the Treo 600 series odd to hold against my head at all. It's honestly not that much bigger than one of those phones you get free for signing up for service, i.e. not the teeniest ones around. The older Treo, the 270, was a bit awkward.

BTW, check out this contender for the Video iPod throne...even co-opts the name.

John Locke · December 6th, 2004, 01:59 PM

Just read that Apple and Motorola have a plan to release an iTunes service for mobile phones in the first half of 2005. The all-in-one dream is getting closer and closer.

Charles, I'm sure you look cool using your Treo too.

Dylan Couper · December 6th, 2004, 09:20 PM

Actually, my problem with the ergonomics of the Treo was the keypad. I've got big hands so I didn't like the tiny number buttons, and also didn't like the touch keypad.
On the other hand, it was much more game friendly. The P800/P900's are a little weird for games. Some work really well, like driving games are fantastic with the jog wheel. Some games work really well with the touch screen. Doom however, has the most messed up interface ever, with a hybrid touchscreen/wheel interface for a game that was never made for it. Doom would have been fantastic on the Treo.

Dylan Couper · December 6th, 2004, 09:32 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Mike Butler :

BTW, I still can't see myself taking anything like a Treo, Palmpilot, or even a future iPod and holding it up to my head as a cellphone handset! Talk about lousy ergonomics to say nothing of looking silly. My attitude is, the less other gadgets you add to a cellphone, the more likely it is to work well in its original intended function--as a phone! -->>>

The bigger Palm sized PDA/phones do look goofy against your head, but you can't beat a Bluetooth headset for that. The Treo600 and the Sony/Ericsson P800/P900's are smaller than an opened flip phone.

As far as them not working well as a phone, my P800 gets better and clearer reception than cheaper single purpose cell phones on the network I use, and is also louder and crisper than my home phone. Plus, when I'm sitting in an airport, the plane is delayed two hours, the guy next to me is playing pong on his cellphone, and I'm watching Hellboy on mine, which is better? :)

Once you go to a good phone/PDA, you might never go back.

John Locke · December 6th, 2004, 09:40 PM

Charles,

The download is called "Pocket Tunes" and as I said, it's a free download when registering. I can't remember which registration it is, so best bet is to just register both the phone and the software. One of them will allow you to download it.

It requires a memory chip to be able to use it.

Joe Carney · December 7th, 2004, 08:45 AM

How does the Treo compare against the Blackberry? I'm looking to purchase, maybe for christmas?

John Locke · December 7th, 2004, 09:41 PM

Joe,

Can't make a comparison since I haven't tried a Blackberry...but I can say about the Treo that I find that it isn't too large to use as a phone, it works well as a phone (for me), and the speaker option is great (good quality sound). As a PDA it also functions well. I don't find the buttons to be difficult to manage and I've gotten pretty fast with them. And you can't beat it for reading and sending e-mail since the large screen makes it convenient.

Maybe the Blackberry is better...I dunno. But you won't be disappointed with the Treo.

Mike Butler · December 8th, 2004, 12:16 PM

I guess I was thinking of the regular size Palms, haven't played with the newer downsized PDAs...although I'd have to guess that for anything like that to be sized like a cell phone, the keyboard would be too small for my middle-aged eyes and fingers to find enjoyable. And as for watching movies, I'd like a much bigger screen...like the one in my 15.2" Titanium. Everything is a trade-off, I guess, and one of these days when I'm feeling a gadget craving, I'll have to try out one of the newer PDAs...might be handy to stick in my pocket when i can't bring along my laptop.

Hmmm, Hellboy...interesting choice! :-) Throw in Season 3 of Buffy. hee hee

Christopher C. Murphy · January 5th, 2005, 05:05 PM

Hey, I called it first!!

http://www.applelinks.com/pm/index.php

Mike Butler · January 6th, 2005, 09:49 AM

Which story, Chris?

Christopher C. Murphy · July 19th, 2005, 01:28 PM

Yes, I was the first to call it!
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...s/12167275.htm

Mike Butler · July 19th, 2005, 07:19 PM

Dammit, I hate those newspapers that make you sign up just to be able to read the story!

John Locke · July 19th, 2005, 07:56 PM

You and me both, Mike! I refuse to sign up for a news site.

So what's the deal, Christopher?

Boyd Ostroff · July 19th, 2005, 08:02 PM

Yeah, me too. Perhaps it has to do with the WSJ's recent prediction of a video iPod?

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=47752

December 6th, 2004, 01:01 PM	#32
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	I don't know about my personal cool factor, but I don't find the Treo 600 series odd to hold against my head at all. It's honestly not that much bigger than one of those phones you get free for signing up for service, i.e. not the teeniest ones around. The older Treo, the 270, was a bit awkward. BTW, check out this contender for the Video iPod throne...even co-opts the name. __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

December 6th, 2004, 01:59 PM	#33
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	Just read that Apple and Motorola have a plan to release an iTunes service for mobile phones in the first half of 2005. The all-in-one dream is getting closer and closer. Charles, I'm sure you look cool using your Treo too. __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

December 6th, 2004, 09:20 PM	#34
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Actually, my problem with the ergonomics of the Treo was the keypad. I've got big hands so I didn't like the tiny number buttons, and also didn't like the touch keypad. On the other hand, it was much more game friendly. The P800/P900's are a little weird for games. Some work really well, like driving games are fantastic with the jog wheel. Some games work really well with the touch screen. Doom however, has the most messed up interface ever, with a hybrid touchscreen/wheel interface for a game that was never made for it. Doom would have been fantastic on the Treo. __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

December 6th, 2004, 09:32 PM	#35
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	<<<-- Originally posted by Mike Butler : BTW, I still can't see myself taking anything like a Treo, Palmpilot, or even a future iPod and holding it up to my head as a cellphone handset! Talk about lousy ergonomics to say nothing of looking silly. My attitude is, the less other gadgets you add to a cellphone, the more likely it is to work well in its original intended function--as a phone! -->>> The bigger Palm sized PDA/phones do look goofy against your head, but you can't beat a Bluetooth headset for that. The Treo600 and the Sony/Ericsson P800/P900's are smaller than an opened flip phone. As far as them not working well as a phone, my P800 gets better and clearer reception than cheaper single purpose cell phones on the network I use, and is also louder and crisper than my home phone. Plus, when I'm sitting in an airport, the plane is delayed two hours, the guy next to me is playing pong on his cellphone, and I'm watching Hellboy on mine, which is better? :) Once you go to a good phone/PDA, you might never go back. __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

December 6th, 2004, 09:40 PM	#36
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	Charles, The download is called "Pocket Tunes" and as I said, it's a free download when registering. I can't remember which registration it is, so best bet is to just register both the phone and the software. One of them will allow you to download it. It requires a memory chip to be able to use it. __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

December 6th, 2004, 12:44 PM	#31
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	Why... I think I look rather cool talking on my Treo.

December 7th, 2004, 08:45 AM	#37
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	How does the Treo compare against the Blackberry? I'm looking to purchase, maybe for christmas?

December 7th, 2004, 09:41 PM	#38
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	Joe, Can't make a comparison since I haven't tried a Blackberry...but I can say about the Treo that I find that it isn't too large to use as a phone, it works well as a phone (for me), and the speaker option is great (good quality sound). As a PDA it also functions well. I don't find the buttons to be difficult to manage and I've gotten pretty fast with them. And you can't beat it for reading and sending e-mail since the large screen makes it convenient. Maybe the Blackberry is better...I dunno. But you won't be disappointed with the Treo. __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

December 8th, 2004, 12:16 PM	#39
Mike Butler Machinist Mate Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Southern Connecticut Posts: 644	I guess I was thinking of the regular size Palms, haven't played with the newer downsized PDAs...although I'd have to guess that for anything like that to be sized like a cell phone, the keyboard would be too small for my middle-aged eyes and fingers to find enjoyable. And as for watching movies, I'd like a much bigger screen...like the one in my 15.2" Titanium. Everything is a trade-off, I guess, and one of these days when I'm feeling a gadget craving, I'll have to try out one of the newer PDAs...might be handy to stick in my pocket when i can't bring along my laptop. Hmmm, Hellboy...interesting choice! :-) Throw in Season 3 of Buffy. hee hee __________________ I ain't straight outta Compton, I'm straight out the trailer. Cuss like a sailor, drink like a Mc. My only words of wisdom are just, "Radio Edit."

January 5th, 2005, 05:05 PM	#40
Christopher C. Murphy Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,707	I knew it! Hey, I called it first!! http://www.applelinks.com/pm/index.php __________________ Christopher C. Murphy Director, Producer, Writer

January 6th, 2005, 09:49 AM	#41
Mike Butler Machinist Mate Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Southern Connecticut Posts: 644	Which story, Chris? __________________ I ain't straight outta Compton, I'm straight out the trailer. Cuss like a sailor, drink like a Mc. My only words of wisdom are just, "Radio Edit."

July 19th, 2005, 01:28 PM	#42
Christopher C. Murphy Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,707	Yes, I was the first to call it! http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...s/12167275.htm __________________ Christopher C. Murphy Director, Producer, Writer

July 19th, 2005, 07:19 PM	#43
Mike Butler Machinist Mate Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Southern Connecticut Posts: 644	Dammit, I hate those newspapers that make you sign up just to be able to read the story! __________________ I ain't straight outta Compton, I'm straight out the trailer. Cuss like a sailor, drink like a Mc. My only words of wisdom are just, "Radio Edit."

July 19th, 2005, 07:56 PM	#44
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	You and me both, Mike! I refuse to sign up for a news site. So what's the deal, Christopher? __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

July 19th, 2005, 08:02 PM	#45
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	Yeah, me too. Perhaps it has to do with the WSJ's recent prediction of a video iPod? http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=47752