News posts from 2004 Q4

Brandon Greenlee · December 28th, 2004, 09:59 AM

Sounds nice. I just love the ability to see something crazy going on or whatnot and take out my mobile phone and get mildly acceptable video out of it. Its a nice feature.

I figure in a few years we'll have several ntsc 'camera phones' out recording mpeg4 to small memory cards. Works good for capturing that random stuff that you wish you had your camera for.

Dylan Couper · December 29th, 2004, 01:15 AM

NICE NICE NICE!!!!

Jos Svendsen · December 29th, 2004, 03:52 AM

That's what you are getting for not testing posted URL's.

And BTW the 15 fps video is watchable on the device. If only they did not insist on putting MMC flashcard in it.

And if you like to see, what Nokia envisions as a media mobile phone then take a peek at the video for 6630 at www.nokia.com/nokia/0,8764,58949,00.html

testing, testing ... it works

Watching the video i doubt that he would have gotten the same out of a XL2 and a laptop. This proves smaller is sometimes better!

Dylan Couper · December 29th, 2004, 10:42 AM

What's wrong with the MMC cards?

Jos Svendsen · December 29th, 2004, 11:05 AM

Well

MMC is a thinner (0.7 mm) edition of the SD Card, and it's got build in DRM. It is a Sandisk/Nokia design ment for smartphones and MP3-players.

The holy grail of all telecom is content, and in our digital age the telcos and the phone manufacturers want to make sure that the digital content stays on the right phone and doesn't get distributed all over the internet.

Due to demand and design. MMC is more expensive, has less performance and capacity that SD Cards. Especially at the larger sizes.

That's why I think that SD Cards are a better choice

Brandon Greenlee · December 29th, 2004, 11:36 AM

Interesting thought on DRM. I don't like the idea of making sure content stays protected is the main priority on choosing a good medium.

On the other hand that Nokia promotional video was very cool. Just proves a cool phone always gets the girl.

He didn't demonstrate any video capibilities though. Does this phone have them?

Dylan Couper · December 29th, 2004, 05:11 PM

Re: MMC

Oh, Ok. Well, I'm stuck with Sony MemoryStick DUO's on my Sony/Ericsson phone, so the thought of MMC sounded better to me than it did to you I guess. :)

Jos Svendsen · December 30th, 2004, 03:47 AM

When we get above F1.4 outside I'll try to do some video on the 6630, and get it posted somehow.

I have a flash for it with build in videolight. But in this country at this time a year, where the big HMI in the sky is on standby, it is of no use.

And I wish that the phone manufactures would regognize the units as data carrying devices., and put some serious storage in the units. I use mine phone to carry documents using Bluetooth as connection.

Jos Svendsen · December 30th, 2004, 03:49 AM

BTW

These time differencies tickles my sense of humor. Now I have repliet to Dylan before he wrote his message. Amazing!

Dylan Couper · December 30th, 2004, 08:15 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Jos Svendsen : BTW

These time differencies tickles my sense of humor. Now I have repliet to Dylan before he wrote his message. Amazing! -->>>

It's not you, I'm just a really slow typer. ;)

I agree about them getting serious on the storage of these devices. Why can "they" put a 20gb hard drive in an MP3 player for $200, but can't put one in a PDA/phone that costs $800+

December 28th, 2004, 09:59 AM	#61
Brandon Greenlee Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: North Alabama Posts: 242	Sounds nice. I just love the ability to see something crazy going on or whatnot and take out my mobile phone and get mildly acceptable video out of it. Its a nice feature. I figure in a few years we'll have several ntsc 'camera phones' out recording mpeg4 to small memory cards. Works good for capturing that random stuff that you wish you had your camera for. __________________ Brandon Greenlee

December 29th, 2004, 01:15 AM	#62
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	NICE NICE NICE!!!! __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

December 29th, 2004, 03:52 AM	#63
Jos Svendsen Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 221	That's what you are getting for not testing posted URL's. And BTW the 15 fps video is watchable on the device. If only they did not insist on putting MMC flashcard in it. And if you like to see, what Nokia envisions as a media mobile phone then take a peek at the video for 6630 at www.nokia.com/nokia/0,8764,58949,00.html testing, testing ... it works Watching the video i doubt that he would have gotten the same out of a XL2 and a laptop. This proves smaller is sometimes better! __________________ ---------------------------- 12c41 JOS. Svendsen

December 29th, 2004, 10:42 AM	#64
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	What's wrong with the MMC cards? __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

December 29th, 2004, 11:05 AM	#65
Jos Svendsen Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 221	Well MMC is a thinner (0.7 mm) edition of the SD Card, and it's got build in DRM. It is a Sandisk/Nokia design ment for smartphones and MP3-players. The holy grail of all telecom is content, and in our digital age the telcos and the phone manufacturers want to make sure that the digital content stays on the right phone and doesn't get distributed all over the internet. Due to demand and design. MMC is more expensive, has less performance and capacity that SD Cards. Especially at the larger sizes. That's why I think that SD Cards are a better choice __________________ ---------------------------- 12c41 JOS. Svendsen

December 29th, 2004, 11:36 AM	#66
Brandon Greenlee Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: North Alabama Posts: 242	Interesting thought on DRM. I don't like the idea of making sure content stays protected is the main priority on choosing a good medium. On the other hand that Nokia promotional video was very cool. Just proves a cool phone always gets the girl. He didn't demonstrate any video capibilities though. Does this phone have them? __________________ Brandon Greenlee

December 29th, 2004, 05:11 PM	#67
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Re: MMC Oh, Ok. Well, I'm stuck with Sony MemoryStick DUO's on my Sony/Ericsson phone, so the thought of MMC sounded better to me than it did to you I guess. :) __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

December 30th, 2004, 03:47 AM	#68
Jos Svendsen Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 221	When we get above F1.4 outside I'll try to do some video on the 6630, and get it posted somehow. I have a flash for it with build in videolight. But in this country at this time a year, where the big HMI in the sky is on standby, it is of no use. And I wish that the phone manufactures would regognize the units as data carrying devices., and put some serious storage in the units. I use mine phone to carry documents using Bluetooth as connection. __________________ ---------------------------- 12c41 JOS. Svendsen

December 30th, 2004, 03:49 AM	#69
Jos Svendsen Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 221	BTW These time differencies tickles my sense of humor. Now I have repliet to Dylan before he wrote his message. Amazing! __________________ ---------------------------- 12c41 JOS. Svendsen

December 30th, 2004, 08:15 PM	#70
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	<<<-- Originally posted by Jos Svendsen : BTW These time differencies tickles my sense of humor. Now I have repliet to Dylan before he wrote his message. Amazing! -->>> It's not you, I'm just a really slow typer. ;) I agree about them getting serious on the storage of these devices. Why can "they" put a 20gb hard drive in an MP3 player for $200, but can't put one in a PDA/phone that costs $800+ __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com